On December 16, 2014, [email protected] wrote:

> i did an experiment a couple years ago where i booted a

> windows machine off an iscsi target connected over gigabit ethernet.

> loading games and regular desktop usage was almost as good as if the

> hard drive was connected to the local system.



That's actually impressive. I didn't think Gigabit went that fast. I recall
reading somewhere that a base rule of thumb when speaking of speeds over
the network was to take the advertised speed and quarter it to get the
actual usage speed. 25MB/sec isn't very fast at all these days. Even
mechanical SSDs frequently read at 150MB/sec and write at 100MB/sec if the
benchmarks I've seen are any indication. I may have to do some tests.



Thanks!
--- Dan

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Dan Egli wrote:
> > Does anyone know how fast of a NIC can be hooked into a USB 3.0 port?
> > Specifically, I'm wondering if there's a 10GbE USB adapter for sale
> > that's
> > Linux compatible (you know that while most are, a few aren't or aren't
> > well
> > supported).
>
> i haven't heard of anyone making a 10gbe usb adapter. doesn't mean they
> don't exist but i'd be surprised if there is one. usb3 has a max
> throughput of 5gbps so one wouldn't be able to max out the link speed of
> a 10gbe interface. that itself shouldn't say a whole lot though since
> there are a number of gigabit ethernet usb2 adapters even though usb2
> can only do 480mbps. the bigger reason is cost. usb devices are usually
> cost sensitive devices and i can't think of any 10gbe controller that is
> under $100 just for the chip. even the most recent intel 10gbe
> controller (which is pcie) is listed at $117 for the controller. you
> would still need to add a phy and other supporting components. there are
> also power requirements that would get in the way. iirc, doing 10gbe
> over cat6 uses over 10 watts of power and i think usb3 can only do about
> half that will also transferring data.
>
> > I've got a potential project here, but the machine won't have any free
> > PCIe
> > slots, so I'm wondering if there's a way to hook a 10GbE NIC to a USB 3.0
> > port and get reasonable speeds? The goal is to have a network with near
> > SATA speeds that PXE boots all workstations (current plan is for eight,
> > but
> > more could be added in the future). Any recommendations are most welcome!
> > I
> > can't use the PCIe slot that will exist on the Motherboard because it
> > will
> > be filled already with a different card.
> >
>
> i'd give it a try with just a gigabit interface first to see if that is
> sufficient. i did an experiment a couple years ago where i booted a
> windows machine off of an iscsi target connected over gigabit ethernet.
> loading games and regular desktop usage was almost as good as if the
> hard drive was connected to the local system. most hard drives can't
> push much more than a gigabit of traffic anyways. ssds can go faster but
> the big improvement that ssds give desktops is the random i/o
> improvements. even some modern ssds can't read random i/o at a gigabit.
> the speed limitation of a gigabit interface would be noticeable if
> someone decided to transfer large files regularly or during some
> benchmarking.
>
> so give it a try with gigabit. you probably will want to put a 10gbe
> network adapter in the system holding the storage.
>
> mike
>
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