GoCubs;165672 Wrote: 
> I pretty must tabled any further work until I had proof that it's even
> possible.  The big thing I'm worried about is some sort of DRM
> protection that would prohibit a foreign plugin without some possibly
> illegal hacking.  I did a quick google search a few weeks ago and
> didn't find any new information on how Launchcast works under the
> covers.  I'm also not familiar with the Jukebox player vs the web one
> and am surprised it offers a better bitrate.  The broadband I pay for
> at my office includes LauchCast Plus @128 via the web, I'm not sure if
> it also includes the Jukebox player.  
> 
> I really like LaunchCast's selection/quality and rating system and
> would love to develop a plugin, it's just I need some sort of guidance
> as to how it works.  Otherwise I'll have to crawl through tons of
> javascript (hopefully they dont have any activeX/Java components)
> and/or run a packet sniffer.  Not fun.  I contemplated doing this, but
> I don't want to put forth all that effort just to find out the stuff is
> protected by some DRM.
> 
> Yeah!  I was waiting on you :)
> 
> If someone wants to do this research I'll work on the plugin, until
> then I guess I'll stick with Sirius for my streaming needs!
> 
> -Greg

Hi Greg, here is some added information that I gathered about the
bitrates:

Yahoo stores the streams at 190K, and downsamples them on the fly to
various levels depending on how you are listening to them.  They also
do dynamic range normalization.  For instance, the web interface is at
around 128K -- you can also listen through Yahoo Messenger at some
possibly other bitrate(sounds worse to me, but may be my imagination). 
Only LaunchCast Plus subscribers can hear the 190K native bitrates
through the Jukebox.    The Jukebox(in its basic and adequate version)
is free.  You should download it and try it.  The quality difference
between this service at 190K and the Web based is significant and easy
to appreciate even through PC Speakers.   Plus you can play
non-normalized dynamic range -- very important.    I have used the
Linksys Wireless Music Bridge to connect to my home stereo(very poor
product compared to Slim), and appreciated the superior quality of the
Jukebox stream through to my end system.

You can get the Jukebox here:

http://music.yahoo.com/jukebox/

Now they try and get you to upgrade to Jukebox Plus edition(not free),
which gives you high-speed burning, equalizer etc....All tools I do not
need.    I find that the riping and library functionality of Yahoo
Jukebox is below grade, and quite buggy.   Its closed XML Tag library
contributing to its uselessness.     However, the music listening part
including quality/music content -- and rating engine is unmatched and
excellent.  

As far as how it works, I have found that the Yahoo Music Developers
are kinda open to chatting to the public.    They hang out on IRC.  I
have exchanged some feedback to them in the past.  You can talk to them
directly at:irc.landoleet.org, channel is "yme". They advertised this on
thier public Blog(http://ymusicblog.com/blog/)    Why they use IRC and
not Yahoo Messenger is both ironic and funny.  Frankly I cannot stand
messenger or any Chat marketware for that matter ;)

Best Regards

Jim


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