g8vju wrote: > Regarding the current 404 error, please could you advise what type of > stream this is as again the BBC seems to provide lots of different > formats via different vendors, e.g. There are the various phone radio > iplayer and tunein apps etc > Where I am confused --- is the squeeze plugin "BBC iplayer" HD 320kbs? > e.g. For all those play again BBC national stationsthat have the 404 > error?- I think they are? ---I know the listen live is 320kbs. > Then what are the squeeze plugin for "BBC iplayer Extras"? I believe > these are lower quality 128kbs?
Live station quality is not the same or directly comparable with "Listen Again" program quality. Make sure you are not comparing Live with Listen Again. The BBC stores the program in digital form in one place. There are many ways to find & play these programs but the quality when played is exactly the same as long as the requesting player asks for the same quality (e.g. highest, medium, lowest, very lowest). BBCiPlayer uses a feed (in fact one feed per station for all national, regional or local stations ) which summarises all the programs for the last 7 days. This feed is designed for an "applicance" so it is a small file which has no formatting or images. The BBCiPlayer Extra uses a few different feeds: one summarising all programs for all stations (incl international) for 30 days (i.e. a big file) - BBC has said this feed will disappear due to maintenance difficulties. The BBCiPlayerExtra also uses other feed for the "Latest" which were intended for Web use and as such has lots of wasted formatting which is not used by the plugin. The feeds used by BBCiPlayerExtra points to the exact same programs as the BBCiPlayer feed which are the same as BBC Web browser and BBC phone/tablet App. All BBC programs have a unique Programme ID (PID) and this identifier is the same for all and as such the playable quality can be the same for all. The quality of program actually played depends on the station, the program being played, the format used (e.g. DASH, HLS, Flashaac), the plugin settings and location of LMS server - UK/nonUK. If you give more details and specific examples, it may be possible to explain what is happening on your system. I saw your comments that the service is provided by a third party, and the possibility that the URL's are protected. You misunderstand - AFAIK it was developed and maintained by a 3rd party on request by the BBC and for the BBC. The URLS are not protected. I just speculated that the URLs may have changed as a possible explanation but that now seems unlikley since "local radio" listen again on BBCiPlayer is still working. Well I am thinking of complaining to Ofcom about this if not resolved soon, and would encourage others to do similar. After all this is a public broadcaster, and in this modern age of internet steaming I can't understand their logic of withholding information. The BBC has been transmitting On FM for over 60 years ( also via a third party contractor) and still using same frequencies from my local TX. It would not make sense to change frequency to a different band and not tell their listeners, so I don't see the logic of changing or withdrawing these streaming URL's without notification! AFAIK there is no regulation/obligations on what the BBC has to offer to public on the internet. The BBC currently offers a full service on Web and phone/table app to public so I think any complaint to OFCOM would be ignored. I expect the feed the BBCIplayer uses was offered to vendors under a private contract/T&Cs (e.g. via the now defunct IMDA [Internet Media Device Alliance] organisation). The BBC have developed a new API Nitro which is used by the phone / table apps - it was intended for possible use by 3rd parties but BBC have not provided "keys" on open access I think because of the difficulty with agreeing T&Cs for use. The BBC have not legally agreed anything with the many plugin developers over the years. It would best not to threaten BBC as I think the BBCiPlayer community would suffer from permanent exclusion. In the past, the BBC have moved against abuse of interfaces (e.g. downloading content) by closing down the interface. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 _______________________________________________ plugins mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
