bpa wrote: 
> I don't think there is a real commercial market for hardware audio
> player with proprietary software.  There maybe small niches.  Sonos
> tried working with Google and then Google stabbed them in the back and
> now both have lawsuits in either direction. See NYTimes article &
> https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/8/21055712/sonos-google-patent-lawsuit-smart-speaker-voice-assistant-platform-monopolies.

I agree that it's probably Sonos which is suffering the most from the
general ecosystem players. They used to have a good place under the sun
but yes, probably a large base of their users bought Sonos because it
was convenient, not because they cared a lot about having a dedicated
audio system. And when Google,Amazon and Apple started to play there, it
was "good enough" and conveniently integrated with the rest of a larger
system so, well, most of the base went away.



LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos
PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000,
ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi
B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010,
AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5
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