pippin wrote: 
> I _know_ how it works.
> The problem is that I have to change all of iPeng's state model plus I
> have to do full regression testing with (at least) SBC 7.3.3, SBS 7.4,
> SBS 7.5.1, SBS 7.5.6, SBS 7.6.1 and LMS 7.7.2 because all of these
> behave somewhat differently and _all_ the relevant player states are
> part of this query.
> If you agree to do that (test each player function at least a dozen time
> with all these server versions and all different players that are
> available for the respective server version), fine, then it's probably
> only a week of work for me.
> 
> But from a testing and reliability standpoint this is the biggest single
> change I can probably make to iPeng. The testing alone makes it a
> complete no-go for me right now and beta testers are generally no help
> here since they just use the App and don't do systematic testing, they
> currently only find like 10% or so of the bugs discovered in iPeng.
> 
> The Logi App only supports server versions 7.5.4 and newer and only uses
> a small subset of the state information iPeng uses.
> 
> Oh, and I believe the developer who did most of the changes around it is
> no longer with Logitech. And it'S not like anybody _remembers_ what
> exactly has changed there over the time. Logitech doesn't have specs or
> documentation for things like that. They just implement the stuff on
> both sides - in the server and the firmware - and then you have to do a
> firmware update to make the new server version work and forget about how
> it used to be before.
> That doesn't really helps me with iPeng.

supose there is a large set of functions if one wanted to test in a
systematic way, supose it also goes with several rescans as some sort
settings gives you a different database :-/ ? I could possibly run more
versions as i have a desktop with 2 OS and one virtual machine on one of
them and my server , I do work 500-600h overtime each year and live more
in hotels than home so the time scale would be geological if I tests
things :-/

If you ever tackle this systematically i suggest you enlist 6 volunteers
(one for each version ) and have a test protocol .

But the iPad device itself ? i never seen how you run beta versions on
them , if you want some unsystematic beta testing done (which you say is
inefficient unless your beta group is very big ,but anyway ) and is it
possible to have a beta installed at the same time as the current
version ?


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