Hi Jeff, I am not referring to "application bugs and fixes" but DOCUMENTATION. This is what any user comes to depend on when they have a question "How do I do that?" Find the answer in the online Help Docs.
It doesn't make practical sense to me to place a caveat on Plum "Read the Help files, but don't believe them until you check the Release Notes." Release Notes--to me at least--have always referred to the FUNCTION of the program/application, not ONLINE Help Docs. Printed Docs are another thing. But here we have the distinct advantage of being able to correct an error NOW, or improve the clarity of an instruction NOW. Updateable online docs have the power to eliminate problems before a user ever encounters one. Had your discovery of the Add New Table "bug" been changed in the online documentation months ago I would never have had a problem this morning. I can see the online Docs as also bring attention to a functional bug with a published work-around. Then reading the Help I'd know how to do what I needed to do now, and then when Adam and David modify the program code to eliminate the bug, they can also update the online documentation to remove the work-around instruction. Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Fleitz Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [plum] How to Add a New Table Hi Dan, All changes and bug fixes are aleady documented with each release. You can find these in the 'Release Notes' in the Plum Help file. I have found these to be adequate for me, but if you find this approach lacking, I think Adam and David would listen to any good suggestions. Best, Jeff Dan wrote: > Would it be appropriate then to recommend that Documentation and Help > Topics be a "downloable Update" > > Adam and David could, upon verification on their end that a Doc item > should be changed, make that change to a "working copy" of the Doc's and > then make that file downloadable for self-installation/update to a > user's Plum IDE. > > > > This way as "simple" issues, but bottlenecks never-the-less, in the > Documentation come up, they can be "fixed" right away so all past, > present, and future users of Plum will benefit. Since Adam and David > will control the "working file" for the Docs they in a sense are in > control of the Help we rely on within the application. > > > > > > Dan Kaufman > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jeff > Fleitz > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2005 1:26 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [plum] How to Add a New Table > > > > This is a known bug I reported a couple months ago. You are supposed to > be able to create a table manually, without using synchronize, You can > actually do this, but the validation messages make it painful. The > trick is to create the table, click off on another node, come back and > right click to add a new column, click off again. click on the table and > add the NewColumn field as the primary key. Once you do this, you > should be able to avoid error messages and rename the column to whatever > your primary key field is. Then you can add additional columns, > relations etc. fine after that. > > > > It's ugly to do, but doable. I am sure this will be on the list for 1.1 > fixes. > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > *Tim Blankenship > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2005 1:07 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [plum] How to Add a New Table > > I agree. Maybe send Adam/David a request to clirify the > documentation about adding tables. > > On 5/16/05, *Dan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > That's exactly what I ended up doing. But the Plum Help docs sure > don't seem to make that clear. In re-reading the Help on New Table > it does say ".adds a new table to your project." So I would guess > then that project in this sentence means your *.Plum project and NOT > your "what you are working on as is commonly referred to as a project" > > > > Assuming that this is in fact the case, I would recommend that the > Help docs at this point state (something like) "Before selecting New > Table from the Database node you must first have added/created the > table in your database. The database node Right-Click menu ONLY > adds an existing database table to your Plum project file." > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] *On Behalf Of > *Tim Blankenship > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2005 12:50 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [plum] How to Add a New Table > > > > I don't think this feature works as you intend it to. I beleive the > table has to exist already in the database. > Create the table/columns etc on the database and synchronize the db. > > On 5/16/05, *Dan* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > How do you Add a New Table to your database from the Plum IDE? > > > > In Plum IDE, I right-click on the Database node > > This gives me a NewTable form > > I enter the Table Name > > The Singular and Plural Labels > > > > But then ??? > > > > There are two boxes for the Primary Key, but are empty. > > I righ-click on "New Table" in the nodes tree and select New Column > and get > > > > "You must choose at least one column for this table's primary key. > Click OK to return to the form and correct the erro, or click Cancel > to cancel your changes." > > > > Don't know how to proceed ??? Can't add anything to the NewTable > form and can't Right-Click to add a new column. > > > > Can anyone help? > > > > > > > > > > Dan Kaufman > > > > > > > > //An Elephant Never Forgets// > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > -- > Tim Blankenship > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > www.vespri.com <http://www.vespri.com> > > > > > -- > Tim Blankenship > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > www.vespri.com <http://www.vespri.com> > ********************************************************************** You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm **********************************************************************
