Thanks Jeff and Brian.  I have a few more questions but I think I should try
and muddle through the tutorials first.

If nothing else, it will help me figure out all the things I don't
understand in a more understandable way!

Thanks,

Mark

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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [plum] sql views and plum


Hi Mark,

I will take a stab at it...

Mark Fuqua wrote:
>
>
> I just purchased and installed sql 2000 so I could do the Plum tutorials.
I
> have been using ms access for quite some time and I am comfortable with it
> and the IDE.  However, sql 2000 looks like a beast.  I have managed to
> figure out how to use the  enterprise manager (sort of) and have imported
a
> previously completed database from access.
>
> I have some real newbie questions for anyone out there who feels so
> inclined:
>
> 1.  What do I use in place of autoNumber for primary key values?  Is there
a
> way to preserve the primary key on import and change the field type
> automatically?  It seems like all my tables have varchar30 values and no
> primary key where the autoNumber fields were.
>

In SQL Server it is called an Identity key, and in the designer you would
set the Identity to yes for your row
attribute.  You will also need to set a seed and increment value.

If you have Office Professional with Access, you should be able to find the
Access Upsizing Wizard, which will do better
than an import; it will translate your Autonumber fields into Identity keys,
create your indexes, relationships, etc.,
as well as import your existing data I have used it before with great
success.  I have not tried upsizing a Plum Starter
database though, so not sure if it will work.


> 2.  Can Plum use a view just like it does a table?  I think I read that
> somewhere in the help but a search today did not prove fruitful.  Access
> does not support views and that is the primary reason I wanted to start
with
> sql 2k (and the tutorials of course).  The project I want to do with Plum
> has alot of joined tables and without views, it does not seem like the
> framework would provide me with much (I mean no disrespect).  All of my
> add/edit/delete actions involve multiple tables.


I don't think the IDE will recognize a view at this point.  I just created a
view and ran the Plum database
synchronization wizard and it didn't see it, so I would say it is not part
of the IDE.  You could probably build a form
manually and call the view, however, once you become more familiar with the
framework.  This looks like a good ER
candidate for the 1.1 release.

>
> 3.  Aside from the tutorials, plum supports access.  If access does not
> support views and Plum does, how does plum work that out?
>


See previous answer. Plum may manually support views but not through the
ide.


> 4.  If I want to develope in ms access and then import into sql2k, are
there
> things other than autoNumber I should avoid?  Forright now, I really do
feel
> alot more comfortable with access.
>

As long as you are not worried about stored procedure and/or trigger
support, you could probably start the project in
Access and use the Upsizing Wizard to move it into SQL Server later.


HTH,

Jeff





> Thanks alot,
>
> Mark
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