I have not been able to get plum to make checkbox group as in Plum Tutorials under "Generating forms for the InventoryItem table"
"Specify enumerated items". I would like to change inactive, active, special order, to checkbox group. any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bill --- On Tue 02/22, List Server < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: List Server [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients@, @ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:52:32 -0500 Subject: WEEKLY <br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:17:23 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>So you want the whole "new user registration process" to work exactly as it<br>already does in Plum, except you want to hijack the page the user really<br>wanted in an authenticated area and take him instead to a different page<br>once he's successfully registered (and therefore automatically logged in)?<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]>< br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Thank you Adam but this isn't working for me. I probably wasn't clear<br>on what I wanted to do. I want new users to login, be taken to<br>NewUserForm (whih Plum already does and is working fine) and then be<br>taken to a form I've created.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Both of these things are easy to do.<br><br>1) Change the cflocation in /login/LoginAction.cfm to point to the new<br>page<br>you want to insert into the process.<br><br>2) Don't do this. Instead, create a single layout that tests for the<br>user's<br>roles, using either cf_Authorize as a paired tag around each<br>roles-specific<br>section, or for more complicated logic using hardcrafted IsUser InRole()<br>tests. You'll get the same effect and easier-to-maintain code.<br><br>You're most sincerely welcome for Plum, my friend. :) Please let us<br>know<br>any suggestions you have for the product.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:54 AM<br>Subject: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Two questions this morning:<br><br>1. I see this line<br><br><cfcase value="Authenticate.UserNotFound"><br><br> <cflocation url="NewUserForm.cfm?rememberLogin=#Form.rememberLogin#"<br>addtoken="No"><br>< br>checks to see if a login is a new user and if so sends them to<br>NewUserForm.cfm How can I automatically send a new user from there to<br>another form that I've created?<br><br><br><br>2. My admin pages use <cfmodule<br>template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm"> to call their layout. I've<br>made two other custom layouts for users who aren't admin and aren't<br>normal user. How do I set this up so the calls are made correctly? For<br>example, I have staff members whose layout is different from users or<br>admin and I want their pages to call <cfmodule<br>template="#Request.staffLayout#/Header.cfm">.<br><br><br><br>I would also just like to say thank you to the members of this list and<br>to the creators of Plum. I am new to CF and the project I'm building<br>would just not be possible for me without your help and Plum.<br><br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Dan Nall<br><br><br><br>****************************************************** ****************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:30:56 -0600<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Yes, although hijack seems a rather harsh term. :) Actually, the pages<br>I want to take the user to are part of the registration process. Thi s<br>is a student administration site and there aren't any pages a student<br>can get to until after they are fully registered. NewUserForm is just<br>the first step in registering. =20<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:17 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>So you want the whole "new user registration process" to work exactly as<br>it<br>already does in Plum, except you want to hijack the page the user really<br>wanted in an authenticated area and take him instead to a different page<br>once he's successfully registered (and therefore automatically logged<br>in)?<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for Col dFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Thank you Adam but this isn't working for me. I probably wasn't clear<br>on what I wanted to do. I want new users to login, be taken to<br>NewUserForm (whih Plum already does and is working fine) and then be<br>taken to a form I've created.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Both of these things are easy to do.<br><br>1) Change the cflocation in /login/LoginAction.cfm to point to the new<br>page<br>you want to insert into the process.<br><br>2) Don't do this. Instead, create a single layout that tests for the<br>user's<br>roles, using either cf_Authorize as a paired tag around each<br>roles-specific<br>section, or for more complicated logic using hardcrafted IsUserInRole()<br>tests. You'll get the same effect and easier-to-maintain code.<br><br>You're most sincerely welcome for Plum, my friend. :) Please let us<br>know<br>any suggestions you have for the product.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br >To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, >2005 11:54 AM<br>Subject: [plum] New Users and Request.layout >questions<br><br><br>Two questions this morning:<br><br>1. I see this >line<br><br><cfcase value=3D"Authenticate.UserNotFound"><br><br> <cflocation >=<br>url=3D"NewUserForm.cfm?rememberLogin=3D#Form.rememberLogin#"<br>addtoken=3D"No"><br><br>checks > to see if a login is a new user and if so sends them to<br>NewUserForm.cfm >How can I automatically send a new user from there to<br>another form that >I've created?<br><br><br><br>2. My admin pages use ><cfmodule<br>template=3D"#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm"> to call their >layout. =<br>I've<br>made two other custom layouts for users who aren't >admin and aren't<br>normal user. How do I set this up so the calls are made >correctly? For<br>example, I have staff members whose layout is different >from users or<br>admin and I want their pages to call ><cfmodule<br>template=3D"#Request.staffLayout#/Header.cfm">.<br><br><br><br>I >would also just like to s ay thank you to the members of this list and<br>to the creators of Plum. I am new to CF and the project I'm building<br>would just not be possible for me without your help and Plum.<br><br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Dan Nall<br><br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:37:11 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Dan,<br><br>This is an excellent case for David and I to put our heads to at the gym<br>tonight.<br><br>This sounds like something a lot of other people will want to do as well.<br><br>We'll be in touch.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQ L Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:30 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Yes, although hijack seems a rather harsh term. :) Actually, the pages<br>I want to take the user to are part of the registration process. This<br>is a student administration site and there aren't any pages a student<br>can get to until after they are fully registered. NewUserForm is just<br>the first step in registering.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:17 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>So you want the whole "new user registration proc ess" to work exactly as<br>it<br>already does in Plum, except you want to hijack the page the user really<br>wanted in an authenticated area and take him instead to a different page<br>once he's successfully registered (and therefore automatically logged<br>in)?<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Thank you Adam but this isn't working for me. I probably wasn't clear<br>on what I wanted to do. I want new users to login, be taken to<br>N ewUserForm (whih Plum already does and is working fine) and then be<br>taken to a form I've created.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Both of these things are easy to do.<br><br>1) Change the cflocation in /login/LoginAction.cfm to point to the new<br>page<br>you want to insert into the process.<br><br>2) Don't do this. Instead, create a single layout that tests for the<br>user's<br>roles, using either cf_Authorize as a paired tag around each<br>roles-specific<br>section, or for more complicated logic using hardcrafted IsUserInRole()<br>tests. You'll get the same effect and easier-to-maintain code.<br><br>You're most sincerely welcome for Plum, my friend. :) Please let us<br>know<br>any suggestions you have for the product.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Me mber of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:54 AM<br>Subject: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Two questions this morning:<br><br>1. I see this line<br><br><cfcase value="Authenticate.UserNotFound"><br><br> <cflocation url="NewUserForm.cfm?rememberLogin=#Form.rememberLogin#"<br>addtoken="No"><br><br>checks to see if a login is a new user and if so sends them to<br>NewUserForm.cfm How can I automatically send a new user from there to<br>another form that I've created?<br><br><br><br>2. My admin pages use <cfmodule<br>template="#Request.adminLayout#/ Header.cfm"> to call their layout. I've<br>made two other custom layouts for users who aren't admin and aren't<br>normal user. How do I set this up so the calls are made correctly? For<br>example, I have staff members whose layout is different from users or<br>admin and I want their pages to call <cfmodule<br>template="#Request.staffLayout#/Header.cfm">.<br><br><br><br>I would also just like to say thank you to the members of this list and<br>to the creators of Plum. I am new to CF and the project I'm building<br>would just not be possible for me without your help and Plum.<br><br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Dan Nall<br><br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>****************************** ****************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsF orm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:05:03 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Actually, we discussed it before going to the gym and it really should be<br>this simple:<br><br>1) Cut this code from LoginAction.cfm...<br><br><!--- If there is no target location, return to the default location. ---><br><cfif Len(Trim(returnURL)) EQ 0><br> <cfset returnURL = Application.defaultLoginDestination><br></cfif><br><cflocation url="#returnURL#" addToken="No"><br><br>...and paste it at the end of your last custom registration form's action<br>page.<br><br>2) Fill that space at the end of LoginAction.cfm with a redirect to your<br>first custom registration form.<br><br>That should do it. Please let us know if that works for you.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www. ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:30 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Yes, although hijack seems a rather harsh term. :) Actually, the pages<br>I want to take the user to are part of the registration process. This<br>is a student administration site and there aren't any pages a student<br>can get to until after they are fully registered. NewUserForm is just<br>the first step in registering.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:17 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>So you want the whole "new user registration process" to work exactly as<br>it<br>already does in Plum, except you want to hijack the page the user really<br>wanted in an authenticated area and take him instead to a different page<br>once he's successfully registered (and therefore automatically logged<br>in)?<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and >Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Thank you Adam but this isn't working for >me. I probably wasn't clear<br>on what I wanted to do. I want new users to >login, be taken to<br>NewUserForm (whih Plum already does and is working >fine) and then be<br>taken to a form I've >created.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original >Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: >Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM<br>To: >[email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and >Request.layout questions<br><br>Both of these things are easy to >do.<br><br>1) Change the cflocation in /login/LoginAction.cfm to point to the >new<br>page<br>you want to insert into the process.<br><br>2) Don't do this. >Instead, create a single layout that tests for the<br>user's<br>roles, using >either cf_Authorize as a paired tag around each<br>roles-specific<br>section, >or for more complicated logic using hardcrafted IsUserI nRole()<br>tests. You'll get the same effect and easier-to-maintain code.<br><br>You're most sincerely welcome for Plum, my friend. :) Please let us<br>know<br>any suggestions you have for the product.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:54 AM<br>Subject: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Two questions this morning:<br><br>1. I see this line<br><br><cfcase value="Authenticate.UserNotFound"><br><br> <cflocation url="NewUserForm.cfm?rememberLogin=#Form.rememberLogin#"<br>addtoken="No"><br><b r>checks to see if a login is a new user and if so sends them to<br>NewUserForm.cfm How can I automatically send a new user from there to<br>another form that I've created?<br><br><br><br>2. My admin pages use <cfmodule<br>template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm"> to call their layout. I've<br>made two other custom layouts for users who aren't admin and aren't<br>normal user. How do I set this up so the calls are made correctly? For<br>example, I have staff members whose layout is different from users or<br>admin and I want their pages to call <cfmodule<br>template="#Request.staffLayout#/Header.cfm">.<br><br><br><br>I would also just like to say thank you to the members of this list and<br>to the creators of Plum. I am new to CF and the project I'm building<br>would just not be possible for me without your help and Plum.<br><br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Dan Nall<br><br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>yo ur subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>*************** *******************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:25:19 -0600<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Sounds good, I'll give it a try.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:05 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Actually, we discussed it before going to the gym and it really should<br>be<br>this simple:<br><br>1) Cut this code from LoginAction.cfm...< br><br><!--- If there is no target location, return to the default location.<br>---><br><cfif Len(Trim(returnURL)) EQ 0><br> <cfset returnURL =3D Application.defaultLoginDestination><br></cfif><br><cflocation url=3D"#returnURL#" addToken=3D"No"><br><br>...and paste it at the end of your last custom registration form's<br>action<br>page.<br><br>2) Fill that space at the end of LoginAction.cfm with a redirect to your<br>first custom registration form.<br><br>That should do it. Please let us know if that works for you.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]> <br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:30 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Yes, although hijack seems a rather harsh term. :) Actually, the pages<br>I want to take the user to are part of the registration process. This<br>is a student administration site and there aren't any pages a student<br>can get to until after they are fully registered. NewUserForm is just<br>the first step in registering.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:17 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>So you want the whole "new user registration process" to work exactly as<br>it<br>already does in Plum, except you want to hijack the page the user really<br>wanted in an authenticated area and take him instead to a different page<br>once he's successfully registered (and therefore automatically logged<br>in)?<br ><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team >Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and >other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level >training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX >Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server >2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 >TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: ><[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 >3:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout >questions<br><br><br>Thank you Adam but this isn't working for me. I probably >wasn't clear<br>on what I wanted to do. I want new users to login, be taken >to<br>NewUserForm (whih Plum already does and is working fine) and then >be<br>taken to a form I've created.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan >Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Both of these things are easy to do.<br><br>1) Change the cflocation in /login/LoginAction.cfm to point to the new<br>page<br>you want to insert into the process.<br><br>2) Don't do this. Instead, create a single layout that tests for the<br>user's<br>roles, using either cf_Authorize as a paired tag around each<br>roles-specific<br>section, or for more complicated logic using hardcrafted IsUserInRole()<br>tests. You'll get the same effect and easier-to-maintain code.<br><br>You're most sincerely welcome for Plum, my friend. :) Please let us<br>know<br>any suggestions you have for the product.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level traini ng:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:54 AM<br>Subject: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Two questions this morning:<br><br>1. I see this line<br><br><cfcase value=3D"Authenticate.UserNotFound"><br><br> <cflocation =<br>url=3D"NewUserForm.cfm?rememberLogin=3D#Form.rememberLogin#"<br>addtoken=3D"No"><br><br>checks to see if a login is a new user and if so sends them to<br>NewUserForm.cfm How can I automatically send a new user from there to<br>another form that I've created?<br><br><br><br>2. My admin pages use <cfmodule<br>template=3D"#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm"> to call their layout. =<br>I've<br>made two other custom layouts for users who aren't admin and aren't<br>normal user. How do I set this u p so the calls are made correctly? For<br>example, I have staff members whose layout is different from users or<br>admin and I want their pages to call <cfmodule<br>template=3D"#Request.staffLayout#/Header.cfm">.<br><br><br><br>I would also just like to say thank you to the members of this list and<br>to the creators of Plum. I am new to CF and the project I'm building<br>would just not be possible for me without your help and Plum.<br><br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Dan Nall<br><br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>****************************************************** ****************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:56:07 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>opinion on this idea:<br><br>1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>buttons).<br><br>2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br><br>3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br><br>First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br><br> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br><br>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>Generator" in V1.1.<br><br>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:24:54 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [p lum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Great Idea, we all love free tools! :) aside from that the one I<br>would most like to see integrated is one we have discussed here<br>before, a file upload control module.<br><br>We all have pdfs and other files that could use a good clean upload<br>and control interface. We have a document imaging software package<br>that utilizes SQL as the control but the web interface to it is<br>garbage and way too awkward for a user to use. One thing that would<br>probably be important in this type of module would be some kind of<br>versioning system. This could be an answer to small business document<br>management.<br><br>Anyway there are my 2 bits. Plum rocks and you guys are great! Keep<br>up the good work!<br><br>With Great Respect!<br><br>Dirk Marshall<br><br><br>On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:56:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum ri ght out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>> <br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> buttons).<br>> <br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> <br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> <br>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> <br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> <br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> <br>> What do you all think?<br>> <br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Co rfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> <br>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>From: "Daniel J O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:12:32 -0500<br>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] enhancement.com<br>For 1,2,& 3, are you asking if it is a good idea to have separate steps in<br>the installation process prompting if they should be installed or if you<br>should include them for free with PLUM? If it is the former, I would think<br>that should be accomplished on one step, similar to a MS Office custom<br>installation where you can select or deselect individual components. For the<br>latter, that's a tough one. I would like to see you guys make some money<br>going forward on this one.<br><br>I agree with Dick that a good all purpose upload handling CFC would be a<br>good feature. How about the process designer talked about early on in the<br>beta's? Is that something you are going to pursue or are you going to leave<br>that out? I thought the diagram example you had in the help file was one of<br>the best modeled examples I have seen which was easy to understand by<br>general business people.<br><br>As far as modules to include, I can't think of any others right now, but<br>will give it some thought. <br><br><br>D an<br>=================== Previous Message Below ===================<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam<br>Churvis<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>To: Plum Discussion List<br>Subject: [plum] V1.1<br><br>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>opinion on this idea:<br><br>1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>buttons).<br><br>2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br><br>3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br><br>First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br><br>Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br><br>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumC atalog/PlumCart, and<br>these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>Generator" in V1.1.<br><br>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced intensive<br>Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your<br>s ubscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Hey Adam,<br><br>I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with checkboxes or something instead of a separate page for <br>each option. Actually, I would like to see an 'expert mode' implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just <br>install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once or twice and know how things work, the wizard just <br>gets in the way. I would rather just set the datasource and mappings ahead of time and generate the code.<br><br>I also think you need to make some money to keep the high quality apps going. Some ideas, like PlumForums and <br>PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sol d as standalone apps by themselves, with an installer,etc., without the <br>Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who want a forums package, but don't want to develop <br>with Plum. I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or something).<br><br>Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in so that you could include/develop them with the <br>projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an example the Plum generator with Forums for $99 <br>instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum 'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or <br>something like that. I know it is chump change, but it will help a little.<br><br>I think something like the File manager/image uploader Dirk is talking about or a simple mail client, are really more <br>examples of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of a Plum app. It supports an app, but really isn't an <br>app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the whole Plum Framew ork to implement a file upload <br>manager. These types of things you should include as part of the Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum <br>CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more catchy ;)? Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie. <br>'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a machine that generates plums?'<br><br>Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I <br>think the killer app in this is an integrated report writer, especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate <br>pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be <br>even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum project file (you have all the table, columns, relation <br>stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and <br>outdated.<br><br>Whew.. My 2 cents.<br><br>Jef f<br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________<br><br>Jeff Fleitz<br>Tekquest, Ltd<br>Integrated Digital Solutions<br>http://www.tekquest.com<br>_______________________________<br><br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>> <br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> buttons).<br>> <br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> <br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> <br>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> <br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> <br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCat alog/PlumCart, and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> <br>> What do you all think?<br>> <br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> <br>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and diges t modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:59:43 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Oh, and I forgot that you will probably want to entertain some of the cfmx7 cfform stuff for version 2.<br><br>Jeff<br><br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>> <br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> buttons).<br>> <br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> <br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> <br>> First que stion: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> <br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> <br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> <br>> What do you all think?<br>> <br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> <br>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> <br >> **********************************************************************<br>> >> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> >> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >> **********************************************************************<br>> >> <br>> <br><br>From: "Mark Fuqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] >> V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:34:55 -0500<br>Reply-To: >> [email protected]<br>Dear Adam,<br><br>I cannot imagine >> many of Plum's users saying this was a bad idea. However,<br>I really think >> the plum community of users will be better served from you<br>making enough >> profit from Plum to enable and encourage you and Dave to spend<br>lots of >> time improving and supporting the product.<br><br>Three optional >> ideas:<br><br>1. Include all the modules you create and either lease them, >> or include<br>them for a trial period.<br><br>2. Or lease the entire Plum product, with the different modules optionally<br>included at a small charge. If the product is leased for a reasonable<br>price, it will still be a great deal for users and will provide you with a<br>steady stream of income.<br><br>3. Include the modules and additional templates with the purchase of a web<br>support/training package for $495/yr. Raise the price of the product to $149<br>and eliminate adware option.<br><br>4. License Plum and the different modules on a per website basis. The<br>developers who really profited from using the product would contribute more<br>than those who just wanted to use if for a school site.<br><br>Thanks for all your hard work Adam and Dave.<br><br>Mark Fuqua<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam<br>Churvis<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>To: Plum Discussion List<br>Subject: [plum] V1 .1<br><br><br>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>opinion on this idea:<br><br>1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>buttons).<br><br>2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br><br>3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br><br>First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br><br>Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br><br>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advic e and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>Generator" in V1.1.<br><br>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br>From: "Mark Fuqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:47:41 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I replied before I read the other posts. The Report Writer and<br>incorporating mx7 forms would be great. Also, you could sell style sheets<br>through the "plum store" as well. One final idea, I think we should all buy<br>the support package as part of the license (500/yr +/- per user), which<br>would ensure enough cash flow to hire someone at a help desk person and help<br>pay for your morgage. However, it would be helpful if it was able to be<br>paid quarterly.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Mark Fuqua<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam<br>Churvis<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>To: Plum Discussion List<br>Subject: [plum] V1.1<br><br><br>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>opinion on this idea:<br><br>1) When creating a new P lum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>buttons).<br><br>2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br><br>3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br><br>First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br><br>Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br><br>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br><br>What do you all think?<br><br>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>Generator" in V1.1.<br><br>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br ><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced >intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion >Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX >and SQL Server >2000<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You > can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your >subscriptions between normal and digest modes >here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br>Date: > Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:18:58 -0500<br>From: "Trefethen, Zachary J" <[EMAIL >PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: >[email protected]<br>Please include support for MySQL if >at all possible!<br><br>I think including these other modules is a great idea. >Maybe you could<br>open up an API so that the community could develop modules >as well?<br>That would be great. This would crea te some real value if you could<br>download community modules during install and select from those as well.<br><br>Unfortunately, I am still just trying to get plum to work (thanks for<br>the help yesterday by the way), so I don't have much more valuable<br>experience to share just yet.<br><br>-Josh<br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:plum-<br>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Churvis<br>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>> To: Plum Discussion List<br>> Subject: [plum] V1.1<br>> <br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about<br>adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted<br>> everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>> <br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project<br>Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No<br>radio<br>> buttons).<br>> <br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and<br>PlumCart .<br>> <br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> <br>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> <br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules"<br>be?<br>> <br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums,<br>PlumCatalog/PlumCart,<br>> and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom<br>business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the<br>Plum<br>> IDE.<br>> <br>> What do you all think?<br>> <br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE<br>"Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> <br>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development to ols,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:24:59 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I cast my vote for the options recommended by Adam and also for MySQL<br>support.<br><br>I still am trying to get Plum working correctly(I'm in a strange<br>environment w/ shared drives and off site servers)but Adam and Dave have<br>been big help in getting me going! Everything is working now except for<br>connectiong to SQL server, but I'm going to fix that today and start<br>really diving into this thing.<br><br>Brian<br>>>-----Original Message-----<br>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:plum-<br>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Churvis<br>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>>>To: Plum Discussion List<br>>>Subject: [plum] V1.1<br>>><br>>>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about<br>> <br>> adding<br>> <br>>>optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted<br>>>everyone's<br>>>opinion on this idea:<br>>><br>>>1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project<br>> <br>> Wizard<br>> <br>>>panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No<br>> <br>> radio<br>> <br>>>buttons).<br>>><br>>>2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and<br>> <br>> PlumCart.<br>> <br>>>3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>>><br>>>First question: does this so und like a good idea?<br>>><br>>>Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules"<br>> <br>> be?<br>> <br>>>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums,<br>> <br>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart,<br>> <br>>>and<br>>>these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>>>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom<br>> <br>> business<br>> <br>>>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the<br>> <br>> Plum<br>> <br>>>IDE.<br>>><br>>>What do you all think?<br>>><br>>>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE<br>> <br>> "Plum<br>> <br>>>Generator" in V1.1.<br>>><br>>>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>>><br>>>Respectfully,<br>>><br>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>><br>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>><br>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br >>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server >>>2000<br>>><br>>><br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>You >>> can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>your >>>subscriptions between normal and digest modes >>>here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>> <br>> <br>> >>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> >>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>><br><br><br>From: "Stephen Ansari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: >>>[plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:28:00 -0500<br> Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I like the idea of adding the extra modules at generation time, and I also <br>like the notion of an advance mode that bypasses the wizard. What about an <br>option to deploy for shared host that would use CFMODULE syntax and perhaps <br>catch a few other issues due to common shared-host restrictions. I am <br>curious how many beta testers here have experimented with deploying plum on <br>shared hosts.<br><br>---Stephen Ansari<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: "Plum Discussion List" <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>Subject: [plum] V1.1<br><br><br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted <br>> everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>><br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> buttons).<br>><br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>><br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>><br>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>><br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>><br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, <br>> and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum <br>> IDE.<br>><br>> What do you all think?<br>><br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>><br>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>><br>> Respectfully,<br>><br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>><br>> Download Plum and other cool deve lopment tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>><br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br><br>From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:45:15 -0400<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I would like MySQL support as well :-)<br><br>-Gel <br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:45:20 -0700<br>Subject: [plum] plumFileIndex table<br>From: "dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>This is a multi-part message in MIME for mat.<br><br>------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2801364221355220<br>Content-Type: text/plain;<br> charset=iso-8859-1<br>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br><br>=0D=0AWhat is this table used for? 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A search of the help did not return any topics. I was=<br> curios since I was wondering about using a disk direcotry like a table and=<br> being able to create forms to handle the directory content.<br /> <br /> D=<br>an<br /></font><br><br>------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2801364221355220--<br><br><br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:57:45 -0500<br>From: frederick valone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] using cf module in shared environment<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I used the Productivity Enhancement CF_2module utility to convert custom <br>tag calls to module calls in a shared environment and it worked great.<br><br>Thanks,<br> Frederick<br><br>Stephen Ansari wrote:<br><br>> I like the idea of adding the extra modules at generation time, and I <br>> also like the notion of an advance mode that bypasses the wizard. <br>> What about an option to deploy for shared host that would use CFMODULE <br>> syntax and perhaps catch a few other issues due to common shared-host <br>> restrictions. I am curious how many beta testers here have <br>> experimented with deploying plum on shared hosts.<br>><br>> ---Stephen Ansari<br>><br>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Churvis" <br>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> To: "Plum Discussion List" <[email protected]><br>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:56 PM<br>> Subject: [plum] V1.1<br>><br>><br>>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted <br>>> everyone's<br>>> opinion on this idea:<br>>><br>>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No <br>>> radio<br>>> buttons).<br>>><br>>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>>><br>> > 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional > modules.<br>>><br>>> First question: does this sound like a good > idea?<br>>><br>>> Second question: what should one or more of those > "additional <br>>> modules" be?<br>>><br>>> I'm seriously thinking about > including PlumForums, <br>>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>>> these > additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>>> > literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom > business<br>>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after > launching the <br>>> Plum IDE.<br>>><br>>> What do you all > think?<br>>><br>>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename > Plum IDE "Plum<br>>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>>><br>>> Thanks in advance for > your feedback. :)<br>>><br>>> Respectfully,<br>>><br>>> Adam Phillip > Churvis<br>>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>>> > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>><br>>> Download Plum and other > cool development tools,<br>>> and get advanced intensive Master-level > training:<br>>><br>>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>><br>>><br>>> **********************************************************************<br>>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>> **********************************************************************<br>>><br>><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:49:56 -0500<br>From: "Trefethen, Zachary J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ail.productivityenhancement.com<br>Can I vote for MySQL twice? ;-)<br><br>-Josh<br><br>From: "Daniel J O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:24:56 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>No, I am in Palm Beach County Florida and you will dis-enfranchise other<br>voters and force a recount <br><br><br>Dan<br>=================== Previous Message Below ===================<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trefethen,<br>Zachary J<br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:50 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br><br>Can I vote for MySQL twice? ;-)<br><br>-Josh<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your<br>subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.co m/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:44:44 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>There are a lot of great ideas here, most impressive. I would have to<br>agree that even though we all like free tools you do have to pay the<br>bills so some of the ideas on how to do that are very good.<br><br>I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>you are correct that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>module that allows upload of files into an organizational structure,<br>controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>historical versions , etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>on a document management package. On the government side this is very<br>important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Dirk<br><br>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> Hey Adam,<br>> <br>> I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with checkboxes or something instead of a separate page for<br>> each option. Actual ly, I would like to see an 'expert mode' implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just<br>> install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once or twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>> gets in the way. I would rather just set the datasource and mappings ahead of time and generate the code.<br>> <br>> I also think you need to make some money to keep the high quality apps going. Some ideas, like PlumForums and<br>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sold as standalone apps by themselves, with an installer,etc., without the<br>> Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who want a forums package, but don't want to develop<br>> with Plum. I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or something).<br>> <br>> Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in so that you could include/develop them with the<br>> projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>> instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum 'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or<br>> something like that. I know it is chump change, but it will help a little.<br>> <br>> I think something like the File manager/image uploader Dirk is talking about or a simple mail client, are really more<br>> examples of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of a Plum app. It supports an app, but really isn't an<br>> app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the whole Plum Framework to implement a file upload<br>> manager. These types of things you should include as part of the Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum<br>> CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more catchy ;)? Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie.<br>> 'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a machine that generates plums?'<br>> <br>> Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>> t hink the killer app in this is an integrated report writer, especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>> pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>> even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum project file (you have all the table, columns, relation<br>> stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>> outdated.<br>> <br>> Whew. My 2 cents.<br>> <br>> Jeff<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________<br>> <br>> Jeff Fleitz<br>> Tekquest, Ltd<br>> Integrated Digital Solutions<br>> http://www.tekquest.com<br>> _______________________________<br>> <br>> <br>> Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> > So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> > optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> > opinion on th is idea:<br>> ><br>> > 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> > panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> > buttons).<br>> ><br>> > 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> ><br>> > 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> ><br>> > First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> ><br>> > Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> ><br>> > I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> > these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> > literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> > processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> ><br>> > What do you all think?<br>> ><br>> > Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> > Generator" in V1.1.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks in advance for your feedback . :)<br>> ><br>> > Respectfully,<br>> ><br>> > Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> > Member of Team Macromedia<br>> > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> ><br>> > Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> > and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> ><br>> > * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> > * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> > * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:45:00 -0500<br>From: "Trefethen, Zachary J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Ha!<br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:plum-<br>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel J O'Keefe<br>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:25 AM<br>> To: [email protected]<br>> Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>> <br>> No, I am in Palm Beach County Florida and you will dis-enfranchise<br>other<br>> voters and force a recount<br>> <br>> <br>> Dan<br>> =================== Previous Message Below ===================<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of<br>> Trefethen,<b r>> Zachary J<br>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:50 AM<br>> To: [email protected]<br>> Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>> <br>> Can I vote for MySQL twice? ;-)<br>> <br>> -Josh<br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your<br>> subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> ******************************************************* ***************<br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:06:22 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Zach,<br><br>You got into the game late, so let me bring you up to speed.<br><br>> Please include support for MySQL if at all possible!<br><br>Already slated for V1.1, as is PostGreSQL.<br><br>> I think including these other modules is a great idea. Maybe you could<br>> open up an API so that the community could develop modules as well?<br>> That would be great. This would create some real value if you could<br>> download community modules during install and select from those as well.<br><br>V1.1 will have the ability for advanced developers to add their own<br>transformers to a project, which will generate their own brand of Code -- <br>even in other languages.<br><br>> Unfortunately, I am still just trying to get plum to work (thanks for<br>> the help yesterday by the way), so I don't have much more valuable<br>> experience to sh are just yet.<br><br>David and I are still waiting for the Access database we requested from you<br>that has all the other tables in it (emptied, of course). Just a reminder,<br>but send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a Zip file.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:07:23 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Thanks for the kudos, Dirk. We're looking at a file upload/management<br>utility for V1.1.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:24 AM<br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br><br><br>> Great Idea, we all love free tools! :) aside from that the one I<br>> would most like to see integrated is one we have discussed here<br>> before, a file upload control module.<br>><br>> We all have pdfs and other files that could use a good clean upload<br>> and control interface. We have a document imaging software package<br>> that utilizes SQL as the control but the web interface to it is<br>> garbage and way too awkward for a user to use. One thing that would<br>> probably be important in this type of module would be some kind of<br>> versioning system. This could be an answer to small business docum ent<br>> management.<br>><br>> Anyway there are my 2 bits. Plum rocks and you guys are great! Keep<br>> up the good work!<br>><br>> With Great Respect!<br>><br>> Dirk Marshall<br>><br>><br>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:56:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> > So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> > optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted<br>everyone's<br>> > opinion on this idea:<br>> ><br>> > 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> > panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No<br>radio<br>> > buttons).<br>> ><br>> > 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> ><br>> > 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> ><br>> > First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> ><br>> > Second question: what should one or mor e of those "additional modules"<br>be?<br>> ><br>> > I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart,<br>and<br>> > these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> > literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> > processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum<br>IDE.<br>> ><br>> > What do you all think?<br>> ><br>> > Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> > Generator" in V1.1.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> ><br>> > Respectfully,<br>> ><br>> > Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> > Member of Team Macromedia<br>> > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> ><br>> > Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> > and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> ><br>> > * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> > * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> > * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> ><br>> > *************************************** *******************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> ><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:12:11 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> For 1,2,& 3, are you asking if it is a good idea to have separate steps in<br>> the installation process prompting if they should be ins talled or if you<br>> should include them for free with PLUM? If it is the former, I would think<br>> that should be accomplished on one step, similar to a MS Office custom<br>> installation where you can select or deselect individual components.<br><br>Concensus seems to be a traditional checkbox-style single panel of<br>additional options.<br><br>> For the<br>> latter, that's a tough one. I would like to see you guys make some money<br>> going forward on this one.<br><br>Would be nice. We'll probably charge then. Sometime over the next month or<br>two I'll put the forums, catalog, and cart out there for you guys and let<br>you play with it, then ask what a good per-domain price would be for them.<br><br>> I agree with Dick that a good all purpose upload handling CFC would be a<br>> good feature. How about the process designer talked about early on in the<br>> beta's? Is that something you are going to pursue or are you going to<br>leave<br>> that out? I thought the diagram example you had in the help file was one<br>of<br>> the best modeled examples I have seen which was easy to understand by<br>> general business people.<br><br>The jury is still out on that one. My ambition might have been too big on<br>ProcessManager. Perhaps if we had a corporate sponsor to support our time<br>adding it in, but it won't happen just from regular Plum contributions.<br><br>> As far as modules to include, I can't think of any others right now, but<br>> will give it some thought.<br><br>Just let us know.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:15:41 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1 <br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Hi Dirk,<br><br>You are right. I should have read more closely. A document management system is a separate app (and a big one). I was <br>referring to a utility to upload files and/or images. A document management tool is a much bigger deal.<br><br>I expect that as the product matures and more developers come into the fold that you will see many Plum based products <br>emerge that are authored and contributed or sold by other people besides Adam and David. They aren't going to be able <br>to cover every base.<br><br><br>Jeff<br><br>_______________________________<br><br><br>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> There are a lot of great ideas here, most impressive. I would have to<br>> agree that even though we all like free tools you do have to pay the<br>> bills so some of the ideas on how to do that are very good.<br>> <br>> I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>> be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>> you are c orrect that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>> module that allows upload of files into an organizational structure,<br>> controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>> history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>> historical versions, etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>> process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>> custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>> options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>> good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>> doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>> a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>> on a document management package. On the government side this is very<br>> important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>> with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>> of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> Dirk<br>> <br>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> <br>>>Hey Adam,<br>>><br>>>I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with checkboxes or something instead of a separate page for<br>>>each option. Actually, I would like to see an 'expert mode' implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just<br>>>install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once or twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>>>gets in the way. I would rather just set the datasource and mappings ahead of time and generate the code.<br>>><br>>>I also think you need to make some money to keep the high quality apps going. Some ideas, like PlumForums and<br>>>PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sold as standalone apps by themselves, with an installer,etc., without the<br>>>Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who want a forums package, but don't want to develop<br>>>with Plum. I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or something).<br>>><br>>>Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in so that you could include/develop them with the<br>>>projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>>>instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum 'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or<br>>>something like that. I know it is chump change, but it will help a little.<br>>><br>>>I think something like the File manager/image uploader Dirk is talking about or a simple mail client, are really more<br>>>examples of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of a Plum app. It supports an app, but really isn't an<br>>>app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the whole Plum Framework to implement a file upload<br>>>manager. These types of things you should include as part of the Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum<br>>>CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more catchy ;)? Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie.<br>>>'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a machine that generates plums?'<br>>><br>>>Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>>>think the killer app in this is an integrated report writer, especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>>>pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>>>even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum project file (you have all the table, columns, relation<br>>>stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>>>outdated.<br>>><br>>>Whew. My 2 cents.<br>>><br>>>Jeff<br>>><br>>><br>>>_______________________________<br>>><br>>>Jeff Fleitz<br >>>Tekquest, Ltd<br>>>Integrated Digital >>>Solutions<br>>>http://www.tekquest.com<br>>>_______________________________<br>>><br>>><br>>>Adam >>> Churvis wrote:<br>>><br>>>>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm >>>wondering about adding<br>>>>optional functionality to Plum right out of the >>>box, so I wanted everyone's<br>>>>opinion on this idea:<br>>>><br>>>>1) When >>>creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>>>>panels >>>asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No >>>radio<br>>>>buttons).<br>>>><br>>>>2) A second panel asks if you want to >>>install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>>>><br>>>>3) Additional panels ask if >>>you want to install additional modules.<br>>>><br>>>>First question: does >>>this sound like a good idea?<br>>>><br>>>>Second question: what should one >>>or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>>>><br>>>>I'm seriously >>>thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>>>>these >>>additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum >>>could<br>>>>literally have just about ev erything you'd need (except custom business<br>>>>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>>>><br>>>>What do you all think?<br>>>><br>>>>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>>>>Generator" in V1.1.<br>>>><br>>>>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>>>><br>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>><br>>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>><br>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>>><br>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>You >> can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>your >>subscriptions between normal and digest modes >>here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> >> <br>> <br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>> >>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your >>subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> >>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>> >><br>> <br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] >>V1.1<br> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:25:29 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with checkboxes<br>or something instead of a separate page for<br>> each option. Actually, I would like to see an 'expert mode' implementd in<br>1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just<br>> install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once or<br>twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>> gets in the way. I would rather just set the datasource and mappings ahead<br>of time and generate the code.<br><br>There seems to be concensus on both of these items, so we'll add them.<br><br>> I also think you need to make some money to keep the high quality apps<br>going. Some ideas, like PlumForums and<br>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sold as standalone apps by<br>themselves, with an installer,etc., without the<br>> Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who want a<br>forums package, but don't want to develop<br>> with Plum. I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or something).<br><br>That also seems to be the concensus. We were thinking something like $79.99<br>per domain for PlumForums and $79.99 per domain for the combination of<br>PlumCatalog and PlumCart (one isn't much good without the other; in fact,<br>we'll probably just call it PlumCart). How does that sound?<br><br>> Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in so that<br>you could include/develop them with the<br>> projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an<br>example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>> instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum<br>'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or<br>> something like that. I know it is chump change, but it will help a little.<br><br>It would cost more to develop this than we would ever make on selling the<br>modules, so we'll have to do something else. We might just put it all into<br>Plum and have it generate a sales order or something like th at -- I don't<br>know yet.<br><br>> I think something like the File manager/image uploader Dirk is talking<br>about or a simple mail client, are really more<br>> examples of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of a Plum<br>app. It supports an app, but really isn't an<br>> app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the whole<br>Plum Framework to implement a file upload<br>> manager. These types of things you should include as part of the Plum<br>Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum<br>> CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more catchy ;)? Plum<br>Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie.<br>> 'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a<br>machine that generates plums?'<br><br>Pluminator? Like a big purple Arnold with a machine gun?<br><br>> Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more<br>intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>> think the killer app in this is an integrated report writer, especially<br> with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>> pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward on that<br>(otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>> even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum project file<br>(you have all the table, columns, relation<br>> stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market for this<br>(HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>> outdated.<br><br>PlumReporting is on schedule for V1.1. Remember this?<br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/images/PlumReporting.gif<br><br>Also remember that advanced developers will be able to install their own<br>transformers for projects, so your XSLT request will be covered.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:26:14 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> Oh, and I forgot that you will probably want to entertain some of the<br>cfmx7 cfform stuff for version 2.<br><br>That's probably not going to happen.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:30:51 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> I cannot imagine many of Plum's users saying this was a bad idea.<br>However,<br>> I really think the plum community of users will be better served from you<br>> making enough profit from Plum to enable and encourage you and Dave to<br>spend<br>> lots of time improving and supporting the product.<br><br>We still have to spend the majority of our time on consulting, development,<br>and training, but we'll get Plum improvements done too, don't worry.<br><br>> Three optional ideas:<br>><br>> 1. Include all the modules you create and either lease them, or include<br>> them for a trial period.<br>><br>> 2. Or lease the entire Plum product, with the different modules<br>optionally<br>> included at a small charge. If the product is leased for a reasonable<br>> price, it will still be a great deal for users and will provide you with a<br>> steady stream of income.<br>><br>> 3. Include the modules and additional templates with the purchase of a<br>web<br>> support/training package for $495/yr. Raise the price of the product to<br>$149<br>> and eliminate adware option.<br>><br>> 4. License Plum and the different modules on a per website basis. The<br>> developers who really profited from using the product would contribute<br>more<br>> than those who just wanted to use if for a school site.<br>><br>> Thanks for all your hard work Adam and Dave.<br><br>Nothing this complicated or expensive -- people just won't go for it, and I<br>don't want people to have to spend so much to acquire it.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:33:32 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I think 1 price for everything would be easier than a "per domain" type < br>of thing. I'd rather pay a little more up front but be able to develop <br>as many sites as neccessary after that.<br><br>Brian<br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:33:07 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> I like the idea of adding the extra modules at generation time, and I also<br>> like the notion of an advance mode that bypasses the wizard. What about<br>an<br>> option to deploy for shared host that would use CFMODULE syntax and<br>perhaps<br>> catch a few other issues due to common shared-host restrictions. I am<br>> curious how many beta testers here have experimented with deploying plum<br>on<br>> shared hosts.<br><br>Generating from the start using CFMODULE syntax isn't practical from the<br>standpoint of developing the Plum IDE (trust me on this), and it isn't<br>practical for the developer who generates the code beca use you can't easily<br>read it and you can't use the graphical custom tag editors.<br><br>We'll have to stick with the CF_2CFMODULE utility.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] plumFileIndex table<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:37:13 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>It's in the Plum Help under The Plum Framework | Using the content<br>management system (CMS) | Managing and searching Verity collections.<br><br>But you're right: it isn't documented well enough. I have it on the action<br>items list to do so.<br><br>In the meantime, you access this table via the File Index Entries link under<br>Ve rity when you click Content on the top nav bar of the admin side.<br><br>You also showed me an error in the documentation on the one item that shows<br>up on a search for PlumFileIndex. Notice the .cfm appended to the custom<br>tag call. ICK!<br><br>Thanks for catching this, Dan.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:45 AM<br>Subject: [plum] plumFileIndex table<br><br><br><br>What is this table used for? A search of the help did not return any topics.<br>I was curios since I was wondering about using a disk direcotry like a table<br>and being able to create forms to handle the directory content.<br><br> Dan<br><br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:38:30 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>> be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>> you are correct that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>> module that allows upload of files into an organizational structure,<br>> controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>> history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>> historical versions, etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>> process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>> custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>> options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>> good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>> doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>> a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>> on a document management package. On the government side this is very<br>> important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>> with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>> of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br><br>Yeah, we won't be adding anything like this anytime soon. Good to know,<br>though.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cement.com><br>Subject: [plum] I finally made the official announcement<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:54:00 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I waited until now to make the final announcement about the Plum final<br>release because we we're originally going to announce it on what turned out<br>to be the day that CF7 was announced, so we waited ten days.<br><br>I hope it all goes well.<br><br>Thanks for everything you've all done to contibute. I have links to Jeff's<br>and Stephen's articles in the announcement, which really helps.<br><br>Again, thanks! :)<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:58:48 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><b r>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> <br>>>'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a<br>> <br>> machine that generates plums?'<br>> <br>> Pluminator? Like a big purple Arnold with a machine gun?<br>> <br><br>Hey, made him the Governator didn't it? Think what might lie in your future <g><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:02:22 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I totally agree Jeff, Adam and David have put a lot into this already.<br> My main reason for putting it up here is not necessarily to be added<br>directly to Plum(that isn't really the place other than the file<br>upload utility) but to get the idea out there so people are thinking<br>about it. If someone were to put a Document Management module with a<br>Project Management module and others for Licensing/Permitting, and a<br >mapping interface to ESRI products(the list of possibilities could go<br>on >for a while) along with what Adam and David are already providing<br>and you >would have a small government solution in a box. This is a<br>market that is >largely untapped as most developers target the private<br>business market or >large government with products that usually cost<br>too much for small >governments to afford or don't provide needed<br>functionality. There are >thousands of small cities and counties that<br>can't afford big software and >maintain information in spreadsheet or<br>text format that should be in a >searchable database form. There is my<br>soapbox for the day. :) I have lots >of thoughts on these ideas but I<br>just don't have the time to develop >them.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Dirk<br><br>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:15:41 -0500, >Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> Hi Dirk,<br>> <br>> You are right. >I should have read more closely. A document management system is a separate >app (and a big one). I was<br>> referring to a utility to upload files and/or images. A document management tool is a much bigger deal.<br>> <br>> I expect that as the product matures and more developers come into the fold that you will see many Plum based products<br>> emerge that are authored and contributed or sold by other people besides Adam and David. They aren't going to be able<br>> to cover every base.<br>> <br>> Jeff<br>> <br>> _______________________________<br>> <br>> <br>> Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> > There are a lot of great ideas here, most impressive. I would have to<br>> > agree that even though we all like free tools you do have to pay the<br>> > bills so some of the ideas on how to do that are very good.<br>> ><br>> > I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>> > be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>> > you are correct that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>> > module that allows upload of f iles into an organizational structure,<br>> > controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>> > history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>> > historical versions, etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>> > process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>> > custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>> > options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>> > good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>> > doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>> > a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>> > on a document management package. On the government side this is very<br>> > important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>> > with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>> > of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br>> ><br>> > Thanks<br>> ><br> > > Dirk<br>> ><br>> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >>Hey Adam,<br>> >><br>> >>I agree with Dan > > that the process should be a single page with checkboxes or something > > instead of a separate page for<br>> >>each option. Actually, I would like > > to see an 'expert mode' implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard > > and just<br>> >>install the framework to a directory. After you have done > > this once or twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>> >>gets in > > the way. I would rather just set the datasource and mappings ahead of time > > and generate the code.<br>> >><br>> >>I also think you need to make some > > money to keep the high quality apps going. Some ideas, like PlumForums > > and<br>> >>PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sold as standalone > > apps by themselves, with an installer,etc., without the<br>> >>Plum > > IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who want a > > forums package, but don't want to develop<br>> >>with Plum. I think you > > should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or something).<br>> >><br>> >>Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in so that you could include/develop them with the<br>> >>projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>> >>instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum 'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or<br>> >>something like that. I know it is chump change, but it will help a little.<br>> >><br>> >>I think something like the File manager/image uploader Dirk is talking about or a simple mail client, are really more<br>> >>examples of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of a Plum app. It supports an app, but really isn't an<br>> >>app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the whole Plum Framework to implement a file upload<br>> >>manager. These types of things you should include as part of the Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum<br>> >>CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a l ittle more catchy ;)? Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie.<br>> >>'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a machine that generates plums?'<br>> >><br>> >>Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>> >>think the killer app in this is an integrated report writer, especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>> >>pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>> >>even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum project file (you have all the table, columns, relation<br>> >>stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>> >>outdated.<br>> >><br>> >>Whew. My 2 cents.<br>> >><br>> >>Jeff<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>_______________________________<br>> >><br >> >>Jeff Fleitz<br>> >>Tekquest, Ltd<br>> >>Integrated Digital Solutions<br>> >> >>>>http://www.tekquest.com<br>> >>_______________________________<br>> >> >>>><br>> >><br>> >>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> >><br>> >>>So I'm sitting here >> >>thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> >>>optional >> >>functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> >> >>>>>opinion on this idea:<br>> >>><br>> >>>1) When creating a new Plum >> >>project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> >>>panels asks if you >> >>want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> >> >>>>>buttons).<br>> >>><br>> >>>2) A second panel asks if you want to >> >>install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> >>><br>> >>>3) Additional panels >> >>ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> >>><br>> >>>First >> >>question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> >>><br>> >>>Second >> >>question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> >> >>>>><br>> >>>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, >> >>PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> >>>these additional modules for fre e along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> >>>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> >>>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> >>><br>> >>>What do you all think?<br>> >>><br>> >>>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> >>>Generator" in V1.1.<br>> >>><br>> >>>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> >>><br>> >>>Respectfully,<br>> >>><br>> >>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> >>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>> >>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> >>><br>> >>>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> >>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> >>><br>> >>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> >>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> >>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> >>><br>> >>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>> >>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> >><br>> >>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> ******** **************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:24:22 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I'm with you.<br><br>I could use one for the company I am working for right now. And I work with the Navy and they would really like some of <br>that too that wasn't huge. As I say, I think people will start bring some of this stuff to market within this calendar <br>year. Plum gives you such a good head start...<br><br>Jeff<br><br>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> I totally agree Jeff, Adam and David have put a lot into this already.<br>> My main reason for putting it up here is not necessarily to be added<br>> directly to Plum(that isn't really the place other than the file<br>> upload utility) but to get the idea out there so people are thinking<br>> about it. If someone were to put a Document Management module with a<br>> Project Management module and others for Licensing/Permitting, and a<br>> mapping interface to ESRI products(the list of possibilities could go<br>> on for a while) along with what Adam and David are already providing<br>> and you would have a small government solution in a box. This is a<br>> market that is largely untapped as most developers target the private<br>> business market or large government with products that usually cost<br>> too much for small governments to afford or don't provide needed<br>> functionality. There are thousands of small cities and counties that<br>> can't afford big software and maintain information in spreadsheet or<br>> text format that should be in a searchable database form. There is my<br> > soapbox for the day. :) I have lots of thoughts on these ideas but I<br>> > just don't have the time to develop them.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> > Dirk<br>> <br>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:15:41 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> <br>>>Hi Dirk,<br>>><br>>>You are right. I should > have read more closely. A document management system is a separate app (and > a big one). I was<br>>>referring to a utility to upload files and/or images. > A document management tool is a much bigger deal.<br>>><br>>>I expect that as > the product matures and more developers come into the fold that you will see > many Plum based products<br>>>emerge that are authored and contributed or > sold by other people besides Adam and David. They aren't going to be > able<br>>>to cover every > base.<br>>><br>>>Jeff<br>>><br>>>_______________________________<br>>><br>>><br>>>Dirk > Marshall wrote:<br>>><br>>>>There are a lot of great ideas here, most > impressive. I would have to<br>>>>agree that even though we all like free > tools you do have to pay the<br>>>>bill s so some of the ideas on how to do that are very good.<br>>>><br>>>>I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>>>>be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>>>>you are correct that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>>>>module that allows upload of files into an organizational structure,<br>>>>controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>>>>history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>>>>historical versions, etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>>>>process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>>>>custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>>>>options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>>>>good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>>>>doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>>>>a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>>>>on a document ma nagement package. On the government side this is very<br>>>>important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>>>>with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>>>>of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br>>>><br>>>>Thanks<br>>>><br>>>>Dirk<br>>>><br>>>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>>Hey Adam,<br>>>>><br>>>>>I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with checkboxes or something instead of a separate page for<br>>>>>each option. Actually, I would like to see an 'expert mode' implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just<br>>>>>install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once or twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>>>>>gets in the way. I would rather just set the datasource and mappings ahead of time and generate the code<br>>>>><br>>>> >I also think you need to make some money to keep the high quality apps going. > Some ideas, like PlumForums and<br>>>>>PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be >packaged and sold as standalone apps by themselves, with an installer,etc., >without the<br>>>>>Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those >folks who want a forums package, but don't want to develop<br>>>>>with Plum. >I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or >something).<br>>>>><br>>>>>Then you could sell versions of Plum that had >these apps built in so that you could include/develop them with >the<br>>>>>projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as >an example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>>>>>instead of $79, or >Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum 'Enterprise' that includes >all of them for $129 or<br>>>>>something like that. I know it is chump >change, but it will help a little.<br>>>>><br>>>>>I think something like the >File manager/image uploader Dirk is talking about or a simple mail client, >are really more<br>>>>>examp les of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of a Plum app. It supports an app, but really isn't an<br>>>>>app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the whole Plum Framework to implement a file upload<br>>>>>manager. These types of things you should include as part of the Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum<br>>>>>CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more catchy ;)? Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie.<br>>>>>'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody invented a machine that generates plums?'<br>>>>><br>>>>>Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>>>>>think the killer app in this is an integrated report writer, especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>>>>>pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>>>>>even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .pl um project file (you have all the table, columns, relation<br>>>>>stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>>>>>outdated.<br>>>>><br>>>>>Whew. My 2 cents.<br>>>>><br>>>>>Jeff<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>_______________________________<br>>>>><br>>>>>Jeff Fleitz<br>>>>>Tekquest, Ltd<br>>>>>Integrated Digital Solutions<br>>>>>http://www.tekquest.com<br>>>>>_______________________________<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>>So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>>>>>>optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>>>>>>opinion on this idea:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>>>>>>panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>>>>>>buttons).<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>>>>>>these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>>>>>>literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>>>>>>processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>What do you all think?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>>>>>>Generator" in V1.1.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tool s,<br>>>>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>><br>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>><br>>>><br >>>><br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>You >>>> can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>your >>>>subscriptions between normal and digest modes >>>>here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>You >>>> can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>your >>>>subscriptions between normal and digest modes >>>>here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> >>>> <br>> <br>> >>>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> >>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com /support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:30:38 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I meant to say 'where the cost wasn't that huge'<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Jeff Fleitz wrote:<br>> I'm with you.<br>> <br>> I could use one for the company I am working for right now. And I work <br>> with the Navy and they would really like some of that too that wasn't <br>> huge. As I say, I think people will start bring some of this stuff to <br>> market within this calendar year. Plum gives you such a good head start...<br>> <br>> Jeff<br>> <br>> Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> <br>>> I totally agree Jeff, Adam and David have put a lot into this already.<br>>> My main reason for putting it up here is not necessarily to be added<br>>> directly to Plum(that isn't really the place other than the file<br>>> upload utility) but to get the idea out t here so people are thinking<br>>> about it. If someone were to put a Document Management module with a<br>>> Project Management module and others for Licensing/Permitting, and a<br>>> mapping interface to ESRI products(the list of possibilities could go<br>>> on for a while) along with what Adam and David are already providing<br>>> and you would have a small government solution in a box. This is a<br>>> market that is largely untapped as most developers target the private<br>>> business market or large government with products that usually cost<br>>> too much for small governments to afford or don't provide needed<br>>> functionality. There are thousands of small cities and counties that<br>>> can't afford big software and maintain information in spreadsheet or<br>>> text format that should be in a searchable database form. There is my<br>>> soapbox for the day. :) I have lots of thoughts on these ideas but I<br>>> just don't have the time to develop them.<br>>><br>>> Thanks<br>>><br>>> Dirk<br>>><br>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:15:41 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <br>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Hi Dirk,<br>>>><br>>>> You are right. I should have read more closely. A document <br>>>> management system is a separate app (and a big one). I was<br>>>> referring to a utility to upload files and/or images. A document <br>>>> management tool is a much bigger deal.<br>>>><br>>>> I expect that as the product matures and more developers come into <br>>>> the fold that you will see many Plum based products<br>>>> emerge that are authored and contributed or sold by other people <br>>>> besides Adam and David. They aren't going to be able<br>>>> to cover every base.<br>>>><br>>>> Jeff<br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>> There are a lot of great ideas here, most impressive. I would have to<br>>>>> agree that even though we all like free tools you do have to pay the<br>>>>> bills so some of the ideas on how to do that are very good.<br>>>>><br>>>>> I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>>>>> be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>>>>> you are correct that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>>>>> module that allows upload of files into an organizational structure,<br>>>>> controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>>>>> history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>>>>> historical versions, etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>>>>> process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>>>>> custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>>>>> options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>>>>> good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>>>>> doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>>>>> a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>>>>> on a docu ment management package. On the government side this is very<br>>>>> important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>>>>> with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>>>>> of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br>>>>><br>>>>> Thanks<br>>>>><br>>>>> Dirk<br>>>>><br>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <br>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>> Hey Adam,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with <br>>>>>> checkboxes or something instead of a separate page for<br>>>>>> each option. Actually, I would like to see an 'expert mode' <br>>>>>> implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just<br>>>>>> install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once <br>>>>>> or twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>>>>>> gets in the way. I would rather just set the datasource and <br>>>>>> mappings ahead of time and generate the code.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I al so think you need to make some money to keep the high quality <br>>>>>> apps going. Some ideas, like PlumForums and<br>>>>>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sold as standalone apps <br>>>>>> by themselves, with an installer,etc., without the<br>>>>>> Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who <br>>>>>> want a forums package, but don't want to develop<br>>>>>> with Plum. I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or <br>>>>>> something).<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in <br>>>>>> so that you could include/develop them with the<br>>>>>> projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an <br>>>>>> example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>>>>>> instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum <br>>>>>> 'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or<br>>>>>> something like that. I know it is chump change, b ut it will help a <br>>>>>> little.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I think something like the File manager/image uploader Dirk is <br>>>>>> talking about or a simple mail client, are really more<br>>>>>> examples of a utility and won't have much functionality outside of <br>>>>>> a Plum app. It supports an app, but really isn't an<br>>>>>> app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going to want to install the <br>>>>>> whole Plum Framework to implement a file upload<br>>>>>> manager. These types of things you should include as part of the <br>>>>>> Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the Plum<br>>>>>> CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more catchy ;)? <br>>>>>> Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and non-techie.<br>>>>>> 'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you know somebody <br>>>>>> invented a machine that generates plums?'<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more <br>>>>>> intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>>>>>> think the killer app in this is an inte grated report writer, <br>>>>>> especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>>>>>> pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward <br>>>>>> on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>>>>>> even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum <br>>>>>> project file (you have all the table, columns, relation<br>>>>>> stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market <br>>>>>> for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>>>>>> outdated.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Whew. My 2 cents.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Jeff<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> _______________________________<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Jeff Fleitz<br>>>>>> Tekquest, Ltd<br>>>>>> Integrated Digital Solutions<br>>>>>> http://www.tekquest.com<br>>>>>> _______________________________<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Adam Churvis wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about <br>>>>>>> adding<br>>>>>>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted <br>>>>>>> ev eryone's<br>>>>>>> opinion on this idea:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project <br>>>>>>> Wizard<br>>>>>>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of <br>>>>>>> Yes/No radio<br>>>>>>> buttons).<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and <br>>>>>>> PlumCart.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional <br>>>>>>> modules" be?<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, <br>>>>>>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>>>>>>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>>>>>>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom <br>>>>>>> business<br>>>>>>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the <br>>>>>>> Plum IDE.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> What do you all think ?<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE <br>>>>>>> "Plum<br>>>>>>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Respectfully,<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>>>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>>>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>>>>>>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>>>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>>>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> ********************************************************************** <br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> http://www.productivityenhancem ent.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm <br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> ********************************************************************** <br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> **********************************************************************<br>>>>>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>> **********************************************************************<br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> **********************************************************************<br>>>>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>><br>>>>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>> **********************************************************************<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ***************************************** *****************************<br>>>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>> **********************************************************************<br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> **********************************************************************<br>>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>> **********************************************************************<br>>><br>>><br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> ****** ****************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:34:59 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>table. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked. <br>The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br><br>[<a href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>Zone Codes</a>]<br><br><br>I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on the <br><br>Att ributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br><br>However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>that variable value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>find it.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Dirk<br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:57:48 -0600<br>From: Tim Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1..1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>My turn, I like the free stuff. Yes I am cheap and most other people<br>are too when it comes to development tools. If you start making<br>mandatory payments for products it will not take off. If you do intend<br>to make some cash on the development of the app wait till you get a<br>large enough user base and make "Pro Plum" for a fee and keep your<br>base with a free version. If the people can create cool stuff will<br>"Free Plum" then they will be more inclined to purchase the Pro<br>version later.<br><br>Here's my wrap up on somethings brought up. <br>File Management System - Good stuff especially for intra/extranet Plumers<br>Installations Additions - Keep it simple, a single page with check<br>boxes and the ability to add these features later if desired.<br>Forums - I like this option, it would be hard to pay for a feature<br>most hosts throw in free now.<br><br>Some more thoughts - Not sure if the following would be helpful to<br>alot but these things I would like for external websites, naw my<br>personal site.<br>Blog - Well it's the hot topic and who doesn't want to tell the world<br>your ingenious thoughts.<br>Gallery - Well many of us have overpriced cameras and zillions of pics<br>so lets show them off, maybe intergrate with the file management tool.<br>Chat - I don't know I hate chat but what the heck.<br>Bug Track - I know you're on it.<br><br>And I continue...<br>As you know I use Oracle, I am je leous of the the MS SQL support is<br>there any way to throw us Oracle guys a bone.<br><br>More to come.... If nothing else I fill your ear next week Adam.<br><br>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:30:38 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> I meant to say 'where the cost wasn't that huge'<br>> <br>> <br>> Jeff Fleitz wrote:<br>> > I'm with you.<br>> ><br>> > I could use one for the company I am working for right now. And I work<br>> > with the Navy and they would really like some of that too that wasn't<br>> > huge. As I say, I think people will start bring some of this stuff to<br>> > market within this calendar year. Plum gives you such a good head start...<br>> ><br>> > Jeff<br>> ><br>> > Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> I totally agree Jeff, Adam and David have put a lot into this already.<br>> >> My main reason for putting it up here is not necessarily to be added<br>> >> directly to Plum(that isn't really the place other than the file<br>> >> upload utility) but to get the idea out there so people are thinking<br>> >> about it. If someone were to put a Document Management module with a<br>> >> >> Project Management module and others for Licensing/Permitting, and a<br>> >> >> mapping interface to ESRI products(the list of possibilities could >> go<br>> >> on for a while) along with what Adam and David are already >> providing<br>> >> and you would have a small government solution in a box. >> This is a<br>> >> market that is largely untapped as most developers target >> the private<br>> >> business market or large government with products that >> usually cost<br>> >> too much for small governments to afford or don't >> provide needed<br>> >> functionality. There are thousands of small cities >> and counties that<br>> >> can't afford big software and maintain information >> in spreadsheet or<br>> >> text format that should be in a searchable >> database form. There is my<br>> >> soapbox for the day. :) I have lots of >> thoughts on these ideas but I<br>> >> just don't have the time to develop >> them.<br>> >><br>> >> Thanks<br>> >><br>> >> Dirk<br>> >><br>> >> On Wed, 16 >> Feb 2 005 12:15:41 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> >> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >>> Hi Dirk,<br>> >>><br>> >>> You are right. I should have read more closely. A document<br>> >>> management system is a separate app (and a big one). I was<br>> >>> referring to a utility to upload files and/or images. A document<br>> >>> management tool is a much bigger deal.<br>> >>><br>> >>> I expect that as the product matures and more developers come into<br>> >>> the fold that you will see many Plum based products<br>> >>> emerge that are authored and contributed or sold by other people<br>> >>> besides Adam and David. They aren't going to be able<br>> >>> to cover every base.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Jeff<br>> >>><br>> >>> _______________________________<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>>> There are a lot of great ideas here, most impressive. I would have to<br>> >>>> agree that even though we all like free tools you do hav e to pay the<br>> >>>> bills so some of the ideas on how to do that are very good.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> I am not sure that I would agree that a document management tool would<br>> >>>> be just a utility. I am not talking about just a file upload tool,<br>> >>>> you are correct that is just a utility. What I actually meant was a<br>> >>>> module that allows upload of files into an organizational structure,<br>> >>>> controls access, allow indexing using custom fields, maintains a<br>> >>>> history of a file(who has viewed it, made changes to it, storing<br>> >>>> historical versions, etc.) use a file to start a workflow or review<br>> >>>> process,(Project Management Module?) Allow a user to create on the fly<br>> >>>> custom file groups of related documents, file retension date<br>> >>>> options(how long to store the file), among other misc features. A<br>> >>>> good document management system will run well over 5 digits and that<br>> >>>> doesn't include the hardware or recurring maintenance. I do work for<br>> >>>> a small City government and they pay thousands yearly in maintenance<br>> >>>> on a document management package. On the government side this is very<br>> >>>> important software as it allows for public access to public documents<br>> >>>> with minimal staff time after the input of the documents. This type<br>> >>>> of a application is very valuable towards saving taxpayer dollars. :)<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Thanks<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Dirk<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:58:06 -0500, Jeff Fleitz<br>> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> >>>><br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> Hey Adam,<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> I agree with Dan that the process should be a single page with<br>> >>>>> checkboxes or something instead of a separate page for<br>> >>>>> each option. Actually, I would like to see an 'expert mode'<br>> >>>>> implementd in 1.1 that would eliminate the wizard and just<br>> >>>>> install the framework to a directory. After you have done this once<br>> >>>>> or twice and know how things work, the wizard just<br>> >>>>> gets in the way. I w ould rather just set the datasource and<br>> >>>>> mappings ahead of time and generate the code.<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> I also think you need to make some money to keep the high quality<br>> >>>>> apps going. Some ideas, like PlumForums and<br>> >>>>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart could be packaged and sold as standalone apps<br>> >>>>> by themselves, with an installer,etc., without the<br>> >>>>> Plum IDE/Generator being part of the deal. For just those folks who<br>> >>>>> want a forums package, but don't want to develop<br>> >>>>> with Plum. I think you should charge for that. ($20 or $30 or<br>> >>>>> something).<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Then you could sell versions of Plum that had these apps built in<br>> >>>>> so that you could include/develop them with the<br>> >>>>> projects and have a license to deploy, etc. So you could buy, as an<br>> >>>>> example the Plum generator with Forums for $99<br>> >>>>> instead of $79, or Plum with PlumCatalog/PlumCart for $99, or Plum<br>> >>>>> 'Enterprise' that includes all of them for $129 or<br>> > >>>> something like that. I know it is chump change, but it will help a<br>> >>>> >>>>> little.<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> I think something like the File >>>> manager/image uploader Dirk is<br>> >>>>> talking about or a simple mail >>>> client, are really more<br>> >>>>> examples of a utility and won't have >>>> much functionality outside of<br>> >>>>> a Plum app. It supports an app, >>>> but really isn't an<br>> >>>>> app, unlike PlumForums. You aren't going >>>> to want to install the<br>> >>>>> whole Plum Framework to implement a file >>>> upload<br>> >>>>> manager. These types of things you should include as >>>> part of the<br>> >>>>> Plum Generator (by the way, can you call it the >>>> Plum<br>> >>>>> CodeGen or Pluminator or something else a little more >>>> catchy ;)?<br>> >>>>> Plum Generator just sounds 'heavy' and >>>> non-techie.<br>> >>>>> 'Hey Martha, I'm on Google right now, and did you >>>> know somebody<br>> >>>>> invented a machine that generates plums?'<br>> >>>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Lastly, and this is a shameless request, because I do more<br>> >>>>> intranet/extranet sites than the public-facing stuff, but I<br>> >>>>> think the killer app in this is an integrated report writer,<br>> >>>>> especially with CFMX 7 out, and the ability to generate<br>> >>>>> pdf/flashpaper/excel output. I hope you guys decide to go forward<br>> >>>>> on that (otherwise I will have too ;). What would be<br>> >>>>> even cooler is to make it ad hoc by using XSLT and the .plum<br>> >>>>> project file (you have all the table, columns, relation<br>> >>>>> stuff in there, right?) There is only one product on the market<br>> >>>>> for this (HotQuery) and it is really expensive and<br>> >>>>> outdated.<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Whew. My 2 cents.<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Jeff<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> _______________________________<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Jeff Fleitz<br>> >>>>> Tekquest, Ltd<br>> >>>>> Integrated Digital Solutions<br>> >>>>> http://www.tekquest.com<br>> >>>>> _______________________________<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Ad am Churvis wrote:<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about<br>> >>>>>> adding<br>> >>>>>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted<br>> >>>>>> everyone's<br>> >>>>>> opinion on this idea:<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project<br>> >>>>>> Wizard<br>> >>>>>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of<br>> >>>>>> Yes/No radio<br>> >>>>>> buttons).<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and<br>> >>>>>> PlumCart.<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional<br>> >>>>>> modules" be?<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums,<br>> >>>>>> PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> >>>>>> these additional modules for free alon g with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> >>>>>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom<br>> >>>>>> business<br>> >>>>>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the<br>> >>>>>> Plum IDE.<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> What do you all think?<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE<br>> >>>>>> "Plum<br>> >>>>>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> Respectfully,<br>> >>>>>><br>> >>>>>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> >>>>>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> >>>>>> 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**********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br><br>-- <br>Tim Blankenship<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:04:33 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br><br><br>Tim Blankenship wrote:<br>> Gallery - Well many of us have overpriced cameras and zillions of pics<br>> so lets show them off, maybe intergrate with the file management tool.<br>Excellent idea...I vote for that also there have been many a site I've <br>worked on that I've had to create little interfaces for browsing & <br>uploading images, then later displaying them. Adding this to Plum would <br>be awesome!<br><br>I also think the blog functionality could be a huge addition also..<br><br>Brian<br><br>From: "Daniel J O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] V1.1<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:09:28 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I agree with that position. I like the idea of the new form options<br>available in MX 7, but why spend time making plum create a different style<br>of form that it already creates. I think their time is better spent in<br>adding new modules and expanding PLUM. <br><br><br>Dan<br>=================== P revious Message Below ===================<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam<br>Churvis<br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:26 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br><br>> Oh, and I forgot that you will probably want to entertain some of the<br>cfmx7 cfform stuff for version 2.<br><br>That's probably not going to happen.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced intensive<br>Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subs cribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your<br>subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Like this:<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br><!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>depending upon your criteria ---><br><cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br> <cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br> <cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br> <cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br><br> <cfset var myLink = ""><br><br> <cfif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br> <cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click M e</a>]"><br> </cfif><br><br> <cfreturn myLink><br></cffunction><br><br><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br><br><cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" label="Example"<br>displayALinkToThisSearchForm="No"><br> <cf_PrimaryKey primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" primaryKeyType="integer"><br><br> <cf_DisplayColumnInList column="AnotherColumn" label="Ex2"<br>type="varchar(80)"><br> <cf_DisplayColumnInList column="YetAnotherColumn" label="Ex3"<br>type="datetime"><br><br> <cf_DisplayListLinks add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br> [<a href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br><br> <!--- Call the UDF in the Caller scope ---><br> #Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, arg3)#<br> </cf_DisplayListLinks><br></cf_DisplayList><br><br><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Let me know how that works for you.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia <br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:34 PM<br>Subject: [plum] Display link<br><br><br>> I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>> the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>> table. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>> the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>> The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>> created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>> cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br>><br>> [<a<br>href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/adm in/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>> Zone Codes</a>]<br>><br>><br>> I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>the<br>><br>> Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>><br>> However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>> tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>> that variable value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>> really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>> find it.<br>><br>> Thanks<br>><br>> Dirk<br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhanceme nt.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:33:05 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Is there any easy way to work on a Plum project from multiple locations <br>if you don't have a laptop? Can I copy the .plum file to a usb drive and <br>take it home to work on it after hours?<br><br>From: "Marwan Saidi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] Display link<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:42:47 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Don't see why not. You probably want to bring the site file structure as<br>well... <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian<br>McLellan<br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:33 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subje ct: Re: [plum] Display link<br><br>Is there any easy way to work on a Plum project from multiple locations <br>if you don't have a laptop? Can I copy the .plum file to a usb drive and <br>take it home to work on it after hours?<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br>From: "Hatcher, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] Plum hangs during generation<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:04:14 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand<br>this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.<br><br>------_=_NextPart_001_01C51473.73B2ACF2<br>Content-Type: text/plain<br><br>I just encountered a small probl em where Plum reported that a file was in<br>use while trying to generate. Sure enough, I had left a file open in<br>Dreamweaver which I dutifully closed. When I returned to Plum, the details<br>about the error had disappeared and the generating window was up. However,<br>no progress bar and the application inaccessible. Ended up killing with<br>task manager.<br><br>John A. Hatcher<br>Manager of IS<br>Versa Products Co., Inc.<br> voice: (201) 843-2400 x4148<br> fax: (201) 843-2931<br> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br><br>------_=_NextPart_001_01C51473.73B2ACF2<br>Content-Type: text/html<br>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br><br><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"><br><HTML><br><HEAD><br><META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =<br>charset=3Dus-ascii"><br><META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version =<br>5.5.2658.2"><br><TITLE>Plum hangs during generation</TITLE><br></HEAD><br><BODY><br><br><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I just encountered a small problem =<br>where Plum reported that a file was in use while trying to =<br>generate. Sure enough, I had left a file open in Dreamweaver =<br>which I dutifully closed. When I returned to Plum, the details =<br>about the error had disappeared and the generating window was up. =<br>However, no progress bar and the application inaccessible. Ended =<br>up killing with task manager.</FONT></P><br><br><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">John A. Hatcher</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Manager of IS</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Versa Products Co., Inc.</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> voice: (201) 843-2400 =<br>x4148</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> fax: (201) =<br>843-2931</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT><br></P><br><br></BODY><br></HTML><br>------_=_NextPart_001_01C51473.73B2ACF2--<br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Plum hangs during generation<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:12:04 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>If you cycle through your windows using Alt-Tab you'll find the dialog box<br>you need.<br><br>We're getting rid of the non-modal dialog boxes in V1.1.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Hatcher, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:04 PM<br>Subject: [plum] Plum hangs during generation<br><br><br>> I just encountered a small problem where Plum reported that a file was in<br>> use while trying to generate. Sure enough, I had left a file open in<br>> Dreamweave r which I dutifully closed. When I returned to Plum, the<br>details<br>> about the error had disappeared and the generating window was up.<br>However,<br>> no progress bar and the application inaccessible. Ended up killing with<br>> task manager.<br>><br>> John A. Hatcher<br>> Manager of IS<br>> Versa Products Co., Inc.<br>> voice: (201) 843-2400 x4148<br>> fax: (201) 843-2931<br>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>><br>><br><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:30:20 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>That concept works but I am unsure how to get the variable I need to evaluate.<br><br>This is the variable that is in the link as displayed between the<br>displaylistlinks tag<br>#Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]#<br><br>I need to know if that variable is "" or has data<br><br>This variable is in the link as the record key to link to the lookup<br>table but if I try to access this variable in any other way than in<br>the specific link format it throws an error saying attributes is<br>undefined. From what I can interpret the entire link text is pulled<br>into the cf_displaylistlinks tag and passed to the cf_displaylist<br>where it is evaluated and the link is passed back.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> Like this:<br>> <br>> --------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>> depending upon your criteria ---><br>> <cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br>> <cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br>> <cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br>> <cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br>> <br>> <cfset var myLink = ""><br>> <br>> <cfif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br>> <cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click Me</a>]"><br>> </cfif><br>> <br>> <cfreturn myLink><br>> </cffunct ion><br>> <br>> <cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br>> <br>> <cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" label="Example"<br>> displayALinkToThisSearchForm="No"><br>> <cf_PrimaryKey primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" primaryKeyType="integer"><br>> <br>> <cf_DisplayColumnInList column="AnotherColumn" label="Ex2"<br>> type="varchar(80)"><br>> <cf_DisplayColumnInList column="YetAnotherColumn" label="Ex3"<br>> type="datetime"><br>> <br>> <cf_DisplayListLinks add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>> delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br>> [<a href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br>> <br>> <!--- Call the UDF in the Caller scope ---><br>> #Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, arg3)#<br>> </cf_DisplayListLinks><br>> </cf_DisplayList><br>> <br>> <cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>> ------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Let me know how that works for you.<br >> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team >> Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download >> Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive >> Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion >> Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development >> with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> >> From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> To: >> <[email protected]><br>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 >> 1:34 PM<br>> Subject: [plum] Display link<br>> <br>> > I am sure there is a >> simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>> > the moment. I have a >> link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>> > table. I want to >> hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>> > the linked field >> otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>> > The linked >> lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>> > created >> as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>> > cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br>> ><br>> > [<a<br>> href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>> UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>> Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>> > Zone Codes</a>]<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>> the<br>> ><br>> > Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>> ><br>> > However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>> > tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>> > that variable value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>> > really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>> > find it.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks<br>> ><br>> > Dirk<br>> ><br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscript ions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> ><br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>From: "Daniel J O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] Display link<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:32:34 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I have done this by copying the first 23 lines of the PLUM file to 2<br>separate files, modifying the information to match the 2 different<br>environments. So I take my latt=E9s plum file to the other machine, copy =<br>the<br>23 lines for that environment on top of th e first 23 lines of the plum =<br>file,<br>and you are good to go.<br><br>I am sure there is a better way to do it, but it was quick and dirty for =<br>my<br>needs and worked OK.<br><br>Dan<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Previous =<br>Message Below =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian<br>McLellan<br>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:33 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br><br>Is there any easy way to work on a Plum project from multiple locations =<br>if<br>you don't have a laptop? Can I copy the .plum file to a usb drive and =<br>take<br>it home to work on it after hours?<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and uns ubscribe from lists, and you can change your<br>subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br><br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:38:39 -0600<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>That worked perfectly thank you so much. =20<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD=20<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:25 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Sounds good, I'll give it a try.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:05 PM<br>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] roductivityenhancement.com<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Actually, we discussed it before going to the gym and it really should<br>be<br>this simple:<br><br>1) Cut this code from LoginAction.cfm...<br><br><!--- If there is no target location, return to the default location.<br>---><br><cfif Len(Trim(returnURL)) EQ 0><br> <cfset returnURL =3D Application.defaultLoginDestination><br></cfif><br><cflocation url=3D"#returnURL#" addToken=3D"No"><br><br>...and paste it at the end of your last custom registration form's<br>action<br>page.<br><br>2) Fill that space at the end of LoginAction.cfm with a redirect to your<br>first custom registration form.<br><br>That should do it. Please let us know if that works for you.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFu sion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:30 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Yes, although hijack seems a rather harsh term. :) Actually, the pages<br>I want to take the user to are part of the registration process. This<br>is a student administration site and there aren't any pages a student<br>can get to until after they are fully registered. NewUserForm is just<br>the first step in registering.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:17 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>So you want the whole "new user registration process" to work exactly as<br> it<br>already does in Plum, except you want to hijack the page the user really<br>wanted in an authenticated area and take him instead to a different page<br>once he's successfully registered (and therefore automatically logged<br>in)?<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Thank you Adam but this isn't working for me. I probably wasn't clear<br>on what I wanted to do. I want new users to login, be taken to<br>NewUserForm (whih Plum already does and is working fine) and then be<br>taken to a form I've created.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Dan Nall<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br>Both of these things are easy to do.<br><br>1) Change the cflocation in /login/LoginAction.cfm to point to the new<br>page<br>you want to insert into the process.<br><br>2) Don't do this. Instead, create a single layout that tests for the<br>user's<br>roles, using either cf_Authorize as a paired tag around each<br>roles-specific<br>section, or for more complicated logic using hardcrafted IsUserInRole()<br>tests. You'll get the same effect and easier-to-maintain code.<br><br>You're most sincerely welcome for Plum, my friend. :) Please let us<br>know<br>any suggestions you have for the product.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message -----=20<br>From: "Nall Daniel A GS-09 336 TRSS/TSUD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:54 AM<br>Subject: [plum] New Users and Request.layout questions<br><br><br>Two questions this morning:<br><br>1. I see this line<br><br><cfcase value=3D"Authenticate.UserNotFound"><br><br> <cflocation =<br>url=3D"NewUserForm.cfm?rememberLogin=3D#Form.rememberLogin#"<br>addtoken=3D"No"><br><br>checks to see if a login is a new user and if so sends them to<br>NewUserForm.cfm How can I automatically send a new user from there to<br>another form that I've created?< br><br><br><br>2. My admin pages use <cfmodule<br>template=3D"#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm"> to call their layout. =<br>I've<br>made two other custom layouts for users who aren't admin and aren't<br>normal user. How do I set this up so the calls are made correctly? For<br>example, I have staff members whose layout is different from users or<br>admin and I want their pages to call <cfmodule<br>template=3D"#Request.staffLayout#/Header.cfm">.<br><br><br><br>I would also just like to say thank you to the members of this list and<br>to the creators of Plum. I am new to CF and the project I'm building<br>would just not be possible for me without your help and Plum.<br><br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Dan Nall<br><br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>******************************* ***************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:42:38 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] productivityenhancement.com<br>Not sure whether I understand you, but maybe you should try using a custom query that uses an outer join to the lookup <br>you are talking about and reference it in the query attribute of the DisplayList tag. Then test to see if the column <br>value is null, and display the link accordingly.<br><br>Will that work?<br><br>Jeff<br><br>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> That concept works but I am unsure how to get the variable I need to evaluate.<br>> <br>> This is the variable that is in the link as displayed between the<br>> displaylistlinks tag<br>> #Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]#<br>> <br>> I need to know if that variable is "" or has data<br>> <br>> This variable is in the link as the record key to link to the lookup<br>> table but if I try to access this variable in any other way than in<br>> the specific link format it throws an error saying attributes is<br>> undefined. From what I can interpret the entire link text is pulled<br>> into the cf_displaylistlinks tag and passed to the cf_displaylist<br>> where it is evaluated and the link is passed back.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> <br>>>Like this:<br>>><br>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>><!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>>>depending upon your criteria ---><br>>><cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br>>><cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br>>><cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br>>><cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br>>><br>>><cfset var myLink = ""><br>>><br>>><cfif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br>>> <cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click Me</a>]"><br>>></cfif><br>>><br>>><cfreturn myLink><br>>></cffunction><br>>><br>>><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br>>><br>>><cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" label="Example"<br>>>displayAL inkToThisSearchForm="No"><br>>><cf_PrimaryKey primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" primaryKeyType="integer"><br>>><br>>><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="AnotherColumn" label="Ex2"<br>>>type="varchar(80)"><br>>><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="YetAnotherColumn" label="Ex3"<br>>>type="datetime"><br>>><br>>><cf_DisplayListLinks add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>>>delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br>>> [<a href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br>>><br>>> <!--- Call the UDF in the Caller scope ---><br>>> #Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, arg3)#<br>>></cf_DisplayListLinks><br>>></cf_DisplayList><br>>><br>>><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>>>------------------------------------------------------<br>>><br>>>Let me know how that works for you.<br>>><br>>>Respectfully,<br>>><br>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>><br>>>Download Plum and other cool development t ools,<br>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>><br>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>><br>>>----- Original Message -----<br>>>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>>>To: <[email protected]><br>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:34 PM<br>>>Subject: [plum] Display link<br>>><br>>><br>>>>I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>>>>the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>>>>table. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>>>>the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>>>>The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>>>>created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>>>>cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br>>>><br>>>>[<a<br>>><br>>>href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>>>UDOZo neCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>>>Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>>><br>>>>Zone Codes</a>]<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>>><br>>>the<br>>><br>>>>Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>>>><br>>>>However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>>>>tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>>>>that variable value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>>>>really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>>>>find it.<br>>>><br>>>>Thanks<br>>>><br>>>>Dirk<br>>>><br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>************************************************ **********************<br>>>><br>>><br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:57:39 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Jeff, so what you are saying is using the databaseblocks co mponent<br>create the query for the list instead of going right from the table? <br>Sounds like it should work. I will give it a try.<br><br>Thanks<br><br><br>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:42:38 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> Not sure whether I understand you, but maybe you should try using a custom query that uses an outer join to the lookup<br>> you are talking about and reference it in the query attribute of the DisplayList tag. Then test to see if the column<br>> value is null, and display the link accordingly.<br>> <br>> Will that work?<br>> <br>> Jeff<br>> <br>> Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> > That concept works but I am unsure how to get the variable I need to evaluate.<br>> ><br>> > This is the variable that is in the link as displayed between the<br>> > displaylistlinks tag<br>> > #Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]#<br>> ><br>> > I need to know if that variable is "" or has data<br>> ><br>> > This var iable is in the link as the record key to link to the lookup<br>> > table but if I try to access this variable in any other way than in<br>> > the specific link format it throws an error saying attributes is<br>> > undefined. From what I can interpret the entire link text is pulled<br>> > into the cf_displaylistlinks tag and passed to the cf_displaylist<br>> > where it is evaluated and the link is passed back.<br>> ><br>> > Thanks<br>> ><br>> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >>Like this:<br>> >><br>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >><!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>> >>depending upon your criteria ---><br>> >><cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br>> >><cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br>> >><cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br>> >><cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br>> >> <br>> >><cfset var myLink = ""><br>> >><br>> >><cfif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br>> >> <cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click Me</a>]"><br>> >></cfif><br>> >><br>> >><cfreturn myLink><br>> >></cffunction><br>> >><br>> >><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br>> >><br>> >><cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" label="Example"<br>> >>displayALinkToThisSearchForm="No"><br>> >><cf_PrimaryKey primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" primaryKeyType="integer"><br>> >><br>> >><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="AnotherColumn" label="Ex2"<br>> >>type="varchar(80)"><br>> >><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="YetAnotherColumn" label="Ex3"<br>> >>type="datetime"><br>> >><br>> >><cf_DisplayListLinks add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>> >>delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br>> >> [<a href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br>> >><br>> >> <!--- Call the UDF in the Caller scope ---><br>> >> #Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, arg3)#<br>> >></cf_DisplayListLinks><br>> >></cf_DisplayList><br>> >><br>> >><cfmod ule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>> >>------------------------------------------------------<br>> >><br>> >>Let me know how that works for you.<br>> >><br>> >>Respectfully,<br>> >><br>> >>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> >>Member of Team Macromedia<br>> >>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> >><br>> >>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> >>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> >><br>> >>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> >>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> >>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> >><br>> >>----- Original Message -----<br>> >>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> >>To: <[email protected]><br>> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:34 PM<br>> >>Subject: [plum] Display link<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>>I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>> >>>the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>> >>>table. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>> >>>the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>> >>>The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>> >>>created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>> >>>cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br>> >>><br>> >>>[<a<br>> >><br>> >>href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>> >>UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>> >>Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>> >><br>> >>>Zone Codes</a>]<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>>I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>> >><br>> >>the<br>> >><br>> >>>Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>> >>><br>> >>>However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>> >>>tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>> >>>that variable value to v alidate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>> >>>really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>> >>>find it.<br>> >>><br>> >>>Thanks<br>> >>><br>> >>>Dirk<br>> >>><br>> >>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> >>><br>> >>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>>**********************************************************************<br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>> >>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> >>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> >><br>> >>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> >>**********************************************************************<br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ************************************** ********************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:03:58 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Exactly.<br><br><br><br>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> Jeff, so what you are saying is using the databaseblocks component<br>> create the query for the list instead of going right from the table? <br>> Sounds like it should work. I will give it a try.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:42:38 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> <br>>>Not sure whether I understand you, but maybe you should try using a custom query that uses an outer join to the lookup<br>>>you are talking about and reference it in the query attribute of the DisplayList tag. Then test to see if the column<br>>>value is null, and display the link accordingly.<br>>><br>>>Will that work?<br>>><br>>>Jeff<br>>><br>>>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>>><br>>>>That concept works but I am unsure how to get the variable I need to evaluate.<br>>>><br>>>>This is the variable that is in the link as displayed between the<br>>>>displaylistlinks tag<br>>>>#Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]#<br>>>><br>>>>I need to know if that variable is "" or has data<br>>>><br>>>>This variable is in the link as the record key to link to the lookup<br>>>>table but if I try to access this v ariable in any other way than in<br>>>>the specific link format it throws an error saying attributes is<br>>>>undefined. From what I can interpret the entire link text is pulled<br>>>>into the cf_displaylistlinks tag and passed to the cf_displaylist<br>>>>where it is evaluated and the link is passed back.<br>>>><br>>>>Thanks<br>>>><br>>>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>>Like this:<br>>>>><br>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>>><!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>>>>>depending upon your criteria ---><br>>>>><cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br>>>>><cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br>>>>><cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br>>>>><cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br>>>>><br>>>>><cfs et var myLink = ""><br>>>>><br>>>>><cfif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br>>>>><cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click Me</a>]"><br>>>>></cfif><br>>>>><br>>>>><cfreturn myLink><br>>>>></cffunction><br>>>>><br>>>>><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br>>>>><br>>>>><cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" label="Example"<br>>>>>displayALinkToThisSearchForm="No"><br>>>>><cf_PrimaryKey primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" primaryKeyType="integer"><br>>>>><br>>>>><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="AnotherColumn" label="Ex2"<br>>>>>type="varchar(80)"><br>>>>><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="YetAnotherColumn" label="Ex3"<br>>>>>type="datetime"><br>>>>><br>>>>><cf_DisplayListLinks add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>>>>>delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br>>>>>[<a href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br>>>>><br>>>>><!--- Call the UDF in the Caller scope ---><br>>>>>#Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, arg3)#<br>>>>></cf_DisplayListLinks><br>>>>></cf_DisplayList><br>>>>><br>>>>><cfmodule template="# Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>>>>>------------------------------------------------------<br>>>>><br>>>>>Let me know how that works for you.<br>>>>><br>>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>>><br>>>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>>><br>>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>>>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>>>><br>>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>>><br>>>>>----- Original Message -----<br>>>>>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>>>>>To: <[email protected]><br>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:34 PM<br>>>>>Subject: [plum] Display link<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>>I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>>>>>>the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>>>>>>table. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value i n<br>>>>>>the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>>>>>>The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>>>>>>created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>>>>>>cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>[<a<br>>>>><br>>>>>href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>>>>>UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>>>>>Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>>Zone Codes</a>]<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>>>>><br>>>>>the<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>>Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>>>>>>tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>>>>>>that variable value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>>>>>>really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>>>>>>find it.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Thanks<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Dirk<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>><br>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>******************************* ***************************************<br>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> *** *******************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:59:56 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Not sure if that works or not, when I reference a query in the list<br>page and hit it from the search page it sends me to the main index<br>page. Remove the reference and the list comes up fine.<br><br>Is there no way from the list page to figure out what the value of<br>this variable is or is there another variable with the same value?<br><br>Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]<br><br>Thanks for all your input, I am learning a lot aobut how this is setup.<br><br><br>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:57:39 -0800, Dirk Marshall<br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> Jeff, so what you are saying is using the databaseblocks component<br>> create the query for the list instead of going right from the table?<br>> Sounds like it should work. I will give it a try.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:42:38 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> > Not sure whether I understand you, but maybe you should try using a custom query that uses an outer join to the lookup<br>> > you are talking about and reference it in the query attribute of the DisplayList tag. Then test to see if the column<br>> > value is null, and display the link accordingly.<br>> ><br>> > Will that work?<br>> ><br>> > Jeff<br>> ><br>> > Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> > > That concept works but I am unsure how to get the variable I need to evaluate.<br>> > ><br>> > > This is the variable that is in the link as displayed between the<br>> > > displaylistlinks tag<br>> > > #Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]#<br>> > ><br>> > > I need to know if that variable is "" or has data<br>> > ><br>> > > This variable is in the link as the record key to link to the lookup<br>> > > table but if I try to access this variable in any other way than in<br>> > > the specific link format it throws an err or saying attributes is<br>> > > undefined. From what I can interpret the entire link text is pulled<br>> > > into the cf_displaylistlinks tag and passed to the cf_displaylist<br>> > > where it is evaluated and the link is passed back.<br>> > ><br>> > > Thanks<br>> > ><br>> > > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br>> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > >>Like this:<br>> > >><br>> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > >><!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>> > >>depending upon your criteria ---><br>> > >><cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br>> > >><cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br>> > >><cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br>> > >><cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br>> > >><br>> > >><cfset var myLink = ""><br>> > >><br>> > >><c fif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br>> > >> <cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click Me</a>]"><br>> > >></cfif><br>> > >><br>> > >><cfreturn myLink><br>> > >></cffunction><br>> > >><br>> > >><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br>> > >><br>> > >><cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" label="Example"<br>> > >>displayALinkToThisSearchForm="No"><br>> > >><cf_PrimaryKey primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" primaryKeyType="integer"><br>> > >><br>> > >><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="AnotherColumn" label="Ex2"<br>> > >>type="varchar(80)"><br>> > >><cf_DisplayColumnInList column="YetAnotherColumn" label="Ex3"<br>> > >>type="datetime"><br>> > >><br>> > >><cf_DisplayListLinks add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>> > >>delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br>> > >> [<a href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br>> > >><br>> > >> <!--- Call the UDF in the Caller scope ---><br>> > >> #Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, arg3)#<br>> > >></cf_DisplayListLinks><br>> > >></cf_DisplayList><br>> > >><br>> > >> <cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>> > >>------------------------------------------------------<br>> > >><br>> > >>Let me know how that works for you.<br>> > >><br>> > >>Respectfully,<br>> > >><br>> > >>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> > >>Member of Team Macromedia<br>> > >>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> > >><br>> > >>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> > >>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> > >><br>> > >>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> > >>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> > >>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> > >><br>> > >>----- Original Message -----<br>> > >>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> > >>To: <[email protected]><br>> > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:34 PM<br>> > >>Subject: [plum] Display link<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >>>I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>> > >>>the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>> > >>>t able. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>> > >>>the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>> > >>>The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>> > >>>created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>> > >>>cf_displaylistlinks tag I have the following link<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>[<a<br>> > >><br>> > >>href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>> > >>UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>> > >>Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>> > >><br>> > >>>Zone Codes</a>]<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>>I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>> > >><br>> > >>the<br>> > >><br>> > >>>Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>> > >>>tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>> > >>>that varia ble value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>> > >>>really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>> > >>>find it.<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>Thanks<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>Dirk<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>**********************************************************************<br>> > >>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > >>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > >>>**********************************************************************<br>> > >>><br>> > >><br>> > >>**********************************************************************<br>> > >>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > >>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> > >><br>> > >>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm< br>> > >>**********************************************************************<br>> > >><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > **********************************************************************<br>> > > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> > ><br>> > > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > > **********************************************************************<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> ><br>><br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:04:11 -0500<br>From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] htmlArea<br>Reply-T o: [email protected]<br>I'm sure this has been asked or discussed before so excuse me for,what may be, a newbie question...<br><br>Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I think they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support for Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<br><br>Brian<br><br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:11:46 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Display link<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Not sure about the search page issue. I abandoned using a separate search page a long time ago because I think the <br>embedded search forms in the list work really well. Have you tried it that way, or is a separate search page a <br>requirement? Try adding a couple simple search fields on the list and see if it works that way.<br><br>Not sure what is up with the kick to the index page. Maybe C2 (churvis-squared) have some ideas.<br><br>Jeff<br><br><br><br>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>> No t sure if that works or not, when I reference a query in the list<br>> page and hit it from the search page it sends me to the main index<br>> page. Remove the reference and the list comes up fine.<br>> <br>> Is there no way from the list page to figure out what the value of<br>> this variable is or is there another variable with the same value?<br>> <br>> Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]<br>> <br>> Thanks for all your input, I am learning a lot aobut how this is setup.<br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:57:39 -0800, Dirk Marshall<br>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> <br>>>Jeff, so what you are saying is using the databaseblocks component<br>>>create the query for the list instead of going right from the table?<br>>>Sounds like it should work. I will give it a try.<br>>><br>>>Thanks<br>>><br>>><br>>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:42:38 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>>><br>>>>Not sure whether I understand you, but maybe you should try using a custom query that uses an outer join to the l ookup<br>>>>you are talking about and reference it in the query attribute of the DisplayList tag. Then test to see if the column<br>>>>value is null, and display the link accordingly.<br>>>><br>>>>Will that work?<br>>>><br>>>>Jeff<br>>>><br>>>>Dirk Marshall wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>>That concept works but I am unsure how to get the variable I need to evaluate.<br>>>>><br>>>>>This is the variable that is in the link as displayed between the<br>>>>>displaylistlinks tag<br>>>>>#Attributes.listQuery.TableName_FieldName[currentRow]#<br>>>>><br>>>>>I need to know if that variable is "" or has data<br>>>>><br>>>>>This variable is in the link as the record key to link to the lookup<br>>>>>table but if I try to access this variable in any other way than in<br>>>>>the specific link format it throws an error saying attributes is<br>>>>>undefined. From what I can interpret the entire link text is pulled<br>>>>>into the cf_displaylistlinks tag and passed to t he cf_displaylist<br>>>>>where it is evaluated and the link is passed back.<br>>>>><br>>>>>Thanks<br>>>>><br>>>>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:20:07 -0500, Adam Churvis<br>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>>Like this:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>>>><!--- Create a UDF that returns either a hyperlink or an empty string,<br>>>>>>depending upon your criteria ---><br>>>>>><cffunction name="IsLink" access="public" returntype="string" output="No"><br>>>>>><cfargument name="arg1" type="numeric" required="yes"><br>>>>>><cfargument name="arg2" type="string" required="yes"><br>>>>>><cfargument name="arg3" type="date" required="yes"><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cfset var myLink = ""><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cfif Arguments.arg3 GT Now()><br>>>>>><cfset myLink = "[<a href='cfmpage.cfm'>Click Me</a>]"><br>>>>>></cfif><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cfreturn myLink><br>>>>>></cffunction><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cfmodule template="#Request.adminLayout#/Header.cfm" pageType="Database"><br>>>>> ><br>>>>>><cf_DisplayList table="SomeTable" rowsPerPage="50" >label="Example"<br>>>>>>displayALinkToThisSearchForm="No"><br>>>>>><cf_PrimaryKey > primaryKeyColumn="SomeColumn" >primaryKeyType="integer"><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cf_DisplayColumnInList >column="AnotherColumn" >label="Ex2"<br>>>>>>type="varchar(80)"><br>>>>>><cf_DisplayColumnInList >column="YetAnotherColumn" >label="Ex3"<br>>>>>>type="datetime"><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cf_DisplayListLinks >add="AddForm.cfm" view="No" >edit="EditForm.cfm"<br>>>>>>delete="DeleteForm.cfm"><br>>>>>>[<a >href="AList.cfm?FromDrill=1">Something</a>]<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><!--- Call the >UDF in the Caller scope ---><br>>>>>>#Caller.IsLink(arg1, arg2, >arg3)#<br>>>>>></cf_DisplayListLinks><br>>>>>></cf_DisplayList><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><cfmodule > >template="#Request.adminLayout#/Footer.cfm"><br>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Let > me know how that works for >you.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Adam Phillip >Churvis<br>>>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>>>http://www.Prod uctivityEnhancement.com<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>>>>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>----- Original Message -----<br>>>>>>From: "Dirk Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>>>>>>To: <[email protected]><br>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:34 PM<br>>>>>>Subject: [plum] Display link<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>>I am sure there is a simple solution to this I just can't see it at<br>>>>>>>the moment. I have a link in a list that is a drill down to another<br>>>>>>>table. I want to hide that link for a record if there is no value in<br>>>>>>>the linked field otherwise an error comes up if the link is clicked.<br>>>>>>>The linked lookup field value may not be filled in when the record is<br>>>>>>>created as it might not be known yet. Anyway within the<br>>>>>>>cf_displaylist links tag I have the following link<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>[<a<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>href="#Application.absoluteUrlRoot#/admin/UDOZoneCodes/UDOZoneCodesList.cfm?<br>>>>>>UDOZoneCode=#URLEncodedFormat(Trim(Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZone<br>>>>>>Code[currentRow]))#&FromDrill=1">UDO<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>>Zone Codes</a>]<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>I thought I would just wrap the link in an if statement doing a check on<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>the<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>>Attributes.listQuery.ADD_ZoneInfo_UDOZoneCode[currentRow] variable<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>However it appears that variable is put together in the displaylist<br>>>>>>>tag and has to be in the link format to be recognized. How do I get<br>>>>>>>that variable value to validate if it has a value or not? I guess I<br>>>>>>>really just need to know what scope the variable is in to be able to<br>>>>>>>find it.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>Thanks<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>Dirk<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>**** ******************************************************************<br>>>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>><br>>>>>htt p://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>><br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>><br>>><br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:58 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I think<br>they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support for<br>Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<br><br>Plum is no longer in Beta; it's a final release now.<br><br>We're going to look at HTML V3 for V1.1, along with other WYSIWYG editors.<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br><br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:12:17 -0500<br>From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Oh, I meant once HTMLArea was out of beta...not Plum! :)<br><br>Brian<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "Adam Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:07 -0500<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br><br>> > Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I think<br>> they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support for<br>> Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<br>> <br>> Plum is no longer in Beta; it's a final release now.<br>> <br>> We're going to look at HTML V3 for V1.1, along with other WYSIWYG editors.<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced De velopment with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br><br><br>From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:49:14 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Okay-- but we'll still have to wait until the next release to incorporate<br>it.<br><br>Who knows... you might be able to just plop it into an existing Plum app as<br>long as the calling structure is the same. Why don't you give it a try and<br>let us know how it works?<br><br>Respectfully,<br><br>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>Member of Team Macromedia<br>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br><br>Download Plum and other cool dev elopment tools,<br>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br><br>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:12 AM<br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br><br><br>> Oh, I meant once HTMLArea was out of beta...not Plum! :)<br>><br>> Brian<br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From: "Adam Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:07 -0500<br>> To: [email protected]<br>> Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>><br>> > > Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I<br>think<br>> > they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support<br>for<br>> > Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<br>> ><br>> > Plum is no longer in Beta; it's a final release now.<br>> ><br>> > We're going to look at HTML V3 for V1.1, along with other WYSIWYG<br>editors.<br>> ><br>> > Respectfully,<br>> ><br>> > Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> > Member of Team Macromedia<br>> > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> ><br>> > Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> > and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> ><br>> > * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> > * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> > * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > **********************************************************************<br>> > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> ><br>> > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > **********************************************************************<br>><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br><br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:27:49 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I didn't do any extensive testing but just plopping it into the Plum app <br> seemed to work. I was able to change and edit content using the v3 Beta.<br><br>Brian<br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> Okay-- but we'll still have to wait until the next release to incorporate<br>> it.<br>> <br>> Who knows... you might be able to just plop it into an existing Plum app as<br>> long as the calling structure is the same. Why don't you give it a try and<br>> let us know how it works?<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macro media<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> To: <[email protected]><br>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:12 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>>Oh, I meant once HTMLArea was out of beta...not Plum! :)<br>>><br>>>Brian<br>>>-----Original message-----<br>>>From: "Adam Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:07 -0500<br>>>To: [email protected]<br>>>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>>><br>>><br>>>>>Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I<br>> <br>> think<br>> <br>>>>they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support<br>> <br>> for<br>> <br>>>>Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<br>>>><br>>>>Plum is no longer in Beta; it's a final release now.<br>>>><br>>>>We're going to look at HTML V3 for V1.1, along with other WYSIWYG<br>> <br>> editors.<br>> <br>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>><br>>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>><br>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>>>>and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>>>><br>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>>><br>>>*** *******************************************************************<br>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br>From: "Daniel J O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] htmlArea<br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:44:10 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>how about in Firefox? Did you try that? <br><br><br>Dan<br>=================== Previous Message Below ==== ===============<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian<br>McLellan<br>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:28 AM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br><br>I didn't do any extensive testing but just plopping it into the Plum app<br> seemed to work. I was able to change and edit content using the v3 Beta.<br><br>Brian<br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> Okay-- but we'll still have to wait until the next release to <br>> incorporate it.<br>> <br>> Who knows... you might be able to just plop it into an existing Plum <br>> app as long as the calling structure is the same. Why don't you give <br>> it a try and let us know how it works?<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Pl um and other cool development tools, and get advanced <br>> intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>> To: <[email protected]><br>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:12 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>>Oh, I meant once HTMLArea was out of beta...not Plum! :)<br>>><br>>>Brian<br>>>-----Original message-----<br>>>From: "Adam Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:07 -0500<br>>>To: [email protected]<br>>>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>>><br>>><br>>>>>Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I<br>> <br>> think<br>> <br>>>>they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support<br>> <br>> for<br>> <br>>>>Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<b r>>>><br>>>>Plum is no longer in Beta; it's a final release now.<br>>>><br>>>>We're going to look at HTML V3 for V1.1, along with other WYSIWYG<br>> <br>> editors.<br>> <br>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>><br>>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>><br>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced <br>>>>intensive Master-level training:<br>>>><br>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>*********************************************************************<br>>>>* You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change <br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cf<br>>>>m<br>>>>*********************************************************************<br>>>>*<br>>><br>>><br>>>********************************************************** ************<br>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change <br>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change <br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your<br>subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>************************************************** ********************<br><br><br><br><br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:05:00 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I didn't try Firefox, simply because I'm offsite today and the machine I <br>have access to doesn't have FF installed. I plan on giving it a shot <br>later as soon as I return to the office.<br><br>I'm assuming it will work because according the htmlArea.com site v3 is <br>supposed to support Mozilla/FF browsers...I don't know if anything is <br>required to make it work w/ Mozilla or if it does right "out of the <br>box", but since I do use Firefox primarily I definitely hope to get this <br>working.<br><br>Brian<br><br>Daniel J O'Keefe wrote:<br>> how about in Firefox? Did you try that? <br>> <br>> <br>> Dan<br>> =================== Previous Message Below ===================<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ail.productivityenhancement.com<br>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian<br>> McLellan<br>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:28 AM<br>> To: [email protected]<br>> Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>> <br>> I didn't do any extensive testing but just plopping it into the Plum app<br>> seemed to work. I was able to change and edit content using the v3 Beta.<br>> <br>> Brian<br>> <br>> Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> <br>>>Okay-- but we'll still have to wait until the next release to <br>>>incorporate it.<br>>><br>>>Who knows... you might be able to just plop it into an existing Plum <br>>>app as long as the calling structure is the same. Why don't you give <br>>>it a try and let us know how it works?<br>>><br>>>Respectfully,<br>>><br>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>><br>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced <br>>>intensive Master-level training:<br>>><br>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusio n Developers<br>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>><br>>>----- Original Message -----<br>>>From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>>>To: <[email protected]><br>>>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:12 AM<br>>>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>>Oh, I meant once HTMLArea was out of beta...not Plum! :)<br>>>><br>>>>Brian<br>>>>-----Original message-----<br>>>>From: "Adam Churvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>>>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:07 -0500<br>>>>To: [email protected]<br>>>>Subject: Re: [plum] htmlArea<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>>>Is Plum going to update HTMLArea to v3 when beta testing is done? I<br>>><br>>>think<br>>><br>>><br>>>>>they are on RC3 right now, the new version is supposed to add support<br>>><br>>>for<br>>><br>>><br>>>>>Mozilla/FF as well as IE. That will be a big plus in my book.<br>>>>><br>>>>>Plum is no longer in Beta; it's a final release now.<br>>>>><br>>>>>We're going t o look at HTML V3 for V1.1, along with other WYSIWYG<br>>><br>>>editors.<br>>><br>>><br>>>>>Respectfully,<br>>>>><br>>>>>Adam Phillip Churvis<br>>>>>Member of Team Macromedia<br>>>>>http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>>>>><br>>>>>Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced <br>>>>>intensive Master-level training:<br>>>>><br>>>>>* C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>>>>>* ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>>>>>* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>*********************************************************************<br>>>>>* You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change <br>>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>>><br>>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cf<br>>>>>m<br>>>>>*********************************************************************<br>>>>>*<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change <br>>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change <br>>>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>>><br>>>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>>>**********************************************************************<br>>><br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your<br>> subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancementcom/support/DiscussionListsForm.c fm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:04:43 -0600<br>From: Tim Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Hello fellow Plummers Google has just given me another 50 gmail<br>invites, if you would like a gmail account just shoot me a message OFF<br>THE LIST at [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>-- <br>Tim Blankenship<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br>From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:23:30 -0500<br>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] uctivityenhancement.com<br>> From: Tim Blankenship<br>> <br>> Hello fellow Plummers Google has just given me another 50 <br>> gmail invites, if you would like a gmail account just shoot <br>> me a message OFF THE LIST at [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br>Damn, I've only got 49 on my main Gmail account<br><br>Then again, in the office I think we can muster around 500 invites if<br>anyone needs one<br><br>If Tim runs out, ship an email my way (to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll<br>furnish you wish gmail invites galore :D<br><br><br><br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:57:03 -0800<br>From: Dirk Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I love Gmail!<br><br><br>On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:23:30 -0500, Philip Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> > From: Tim Blankenship<br>> ><br>> > Hello fellow Plummers Google has just given me another 50<br>> > gmail invites, if you would like a gmail account just shoot<br>> > me a message OFF THE LIST at [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> <br>> Damn, I've only got 49 on my main Gmail account<br>> <br>> Then again, in the office I think we can muster around 500 invites if<br>> anyone needs one<br>> <br>> If Tim runs out, ship an email my way (to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll<br>> furnish you wish gmail invites galore :D<br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>From: "David Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:00:28 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I also have 50.<br><br>I wonder if they realize that most of us have already given all of our<br>friends invites ;D<br><br>Dave<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Ph ilip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:23 PM<br>Subject: RE: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br><br><br>> > From: Tim Blankenship<br>> ><br>> > Hello fellow Plummers Google has just given me another 50<br>> > gmail invites, if you would like a gmail account just shoot<br>> > me a message OFF THE LIST at [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>><br>> Damn, I've only got 49 on my main Gmail account<br>><br>> Then again, in the office I think we can muster around 500 invites if<br>> anyone needs one<br>><br>> If Tim runs out, ship an email my way (to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll<br>> furnish you wish gmail invites galore :D<br>><br>><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhance ment.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br><br>From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:15:29 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>> From: David Churvis<br>> <br>> I also have 50.<br>> <br>> I wonder if they realize that most of us have already given <br>> all of our friends invites ;D<br><br>And yet people are still trying to sell the invites on eBay :P<br><br><br><br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:11:20 -0500<br>From: "Brian McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I'm saving mine to give as Christmas gifts...<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "Philip Arnold" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:15:29 -0500<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: RE: [plum] Off topic - gmail<br><br>> > From: David Churvis<br>> > <br>> > I also have 50.<br> > > <br>> > I wonder if they realize that most of us have already given <br>> > > > all of our friends invites ;D<br>> <br>> And yet people are still trying to > > sell the invites on eBay :P<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> > > **********************************************************************<br>> > > You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> > > your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> > > http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> > > **********************************************************************<br><br><br>From: > > "Mark Fuqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] Field Names<br>Date: > > Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:25:25 -0500<br>Reply-To: > > [email protected]<br><br>This may be silly but...I have > > had trouble in the past with queries where<br>the name of two fields in two > > different tables were the same. It did not<br>seem to matter whether or > > not I used table.fieldName or just fieldName. So<br>I started putting the > > initials of the table name as a prefix t o the field<br>name. tableOne.toFieldName tableTwo.ttFieldName.<br><br>Did I imagine this problem? I want to redo a database with the naming<br>convetions spelled out in the plum tutorials...have you ever had any<br>problems with identically named fields in different tables?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Mark Fuqua<br><br><br><br>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:07:37 -0500<br>From: Brian McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Field Names<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I can't recall ever ever having that problem as long as I specified the <br>table name like table.fieldname...not to say it doesn't happen, I just <br>don't remember it happening to me.<br><br>Brian<br><br>Mark Fuqua wrote:<br>> This may be silly but...I have had trouble in the past with queries where<br>> the name of two fields in two different tables were the same. It did not<br>> seem to matter whether or not I used table.fieldName or just fieldName. So<br>> I started putting the initials of the table name as a prefix to the field<br>> n ame. tableOne.toFieldName tableTwo.ttFieldName.<br>> <br>> Did I imagine this problem? I want to redo a database with the naming<br>> convetions spelled out in the plum tutorials...have you ever had any<br>> problems with identically named fields in different tables?<br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>> <br>> Mark Fuqua<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br>From: "Aaron Longnion - hotmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] Field Names<br>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0600<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Mark -<br><br>Is this with SQL Server 2000 that you're hav ing issues?<br><br>Can you post the exact query in question, pointing out what your particular <br>issue is that's making it not work.. as in: are the results wrong or did an <br>error get returned?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Aaron<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Mark Fuqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:25 AM<br>Subject: [plum] Field Names<br><br><br>><br>> This may be silly but...I have had trouble in the past with queries where<br>> the name of two fields in two different tables were the same. It did not<br>> seem to matter whether or not I used table.fieldName or just fieldName. <br>> So<br>> I started putting the initials of the table name as a prefix to the field<br>> name. tableOne.toFieldName tableTwo.ttFieldName.<br>><br>> Did I imagine this problem? I want to redo a database with the naming<br>> convetions spelled out in the plum tutorials...have you ever had any<br>> problems with identically named fields in different tables?<br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>><br>> Mark Fuqua<br>><br>><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br><br>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:19:23 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>I remembered something else I had requested earlier that I would like to put on the ER list, and that would be the <br>ability to import/graft table entities, relations, forms, etc. This would allow us to essentially build business object <br>libraries that can be used between multiple projects.<br><br>Jeff<br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum rig ht out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>> <br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> buttons).<br>> <br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> <br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> <br>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> <br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> <br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> <br>> What do you all think?<br>> <br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> <br>> Thanks in advan ce for your feedback. :)<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:19:23 -0500<br>From: Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: Re: [plum] V1.1<br>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ivityenhancement.com<br>I remembered something else I had requested earlier that I would like to put on the ER list, and that would be the <br>ability to import/graft table entities, relations, forms, etc. This would allow us to essentially build business object <br>libraries that can be used between multiple projects.<br><br>Jeff<br><br>Adam Churvis wrote:<br>> So I'm sitting here thinking about V1.1, and I'm wondering about adding<br>> optional functionality to Plum right out of the box, so I wanted everyone's<br>> opinion on this idea:<br>> <br>> 1) When creating a new Plum project, one of the New Plum Project Wizard<br>> panels asks if you want to install PlumForums (just a pair of Yes/No radio<br>> buttons).<br>> <br>> 2) A second panel asks if you want to install PlumCatalog and PlumCart.<br>> <br>> 3) Additional panels ask if you want to install additional modules.<br>> <br>> First question: does this sound like a good idea?<br>> <br>> Second question: what should one or more of those "additional modules" be?<br>> <br>> I'm seriously thinking about including PlumForums, PlumCatalog/PlumCart, and<br>> these additional modules for free along with Plum, so that Plum could<br>> literally have just about everything you'd need (except custom business<br>> processes and graphics, of course) two minutes after launching the Plum IDE.<br>> <br>> What do you all think?<br>> <br>> Also, I'm going to take Sean Corfield's advice and rename Plum IDE "Plum<br>> Generator" in V1.1.<br>> <br>> Thanks in advance for your feedback. :)<br>> <br>> Respectfully,<br>> <br>> Adam Phillip Churvis<br>> Member of Team Macromedia<br>> http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com<br>> <br>> Download Plum and other cool development tools,<br>> and get advanced intensive Master-level training:<br>> <br>> * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers<br>> * ColdFusion MX Master Class<br>> * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000<br>> <br>> <br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can c hange<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>> <br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>> <br>> <br><br>From: "Mark Fuqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: RE: [plum] Field Names<br>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:08:14 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>Actually, it was with access 2000 and it was quite some time ago. But the<br>strange behavior was in the query object after it was returned to<br>coldfusion. It was because of this that I changed the way I named my<br>fields. It is possible that it was something else. I will try and recreate<br>it. If I remember correctly, it wasn't that the query did not work, it did.<br>But the query object in ColdFusion had two "fields" with the same name when<br>looking at the query results with cfdump. In the select the fields were<br>named the same but from different tables...tableOne.fieldOne and<br>tableTwo.fieldOne. If I reme mber right on the cfdump of the query, there<br>were two "fields" named fieldOne. I was trying to do something with the<br>results of the query and was having difficulty and decided after looking at<br>the cfdump of the query object that the reason was the naming convention I<br>was using.<br><br>The way Plum uses the CapitolLetterNamingConvention is quite useful and<br>quite insightful of the authors. and I was just wondering whether that was<br>indeed a problem or if I had just imagined it. I will try to find time to<br>check it out sunday or monday.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Mark Fuqua<br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aaron<br>Longnion - hotmail<br>Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:54 PM<br>To: [email protected]<br>Subject: Re: [plum] Field Names<br><br><br>Mark -<br><br>Is this with SQL Server 2000 tha t you're having issues?<br><br>Can you post the exact query in question, pointing out what your particular<br>issue is that's making it not work.. as in: are the results wrong or did an<br>error get returned?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Aaron<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Mark Fuqua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: <[email protected]><br>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:25 AM<br>Subject: [plum] Field Names<br><br><br>><br>> This may be silly but...I have had trouble in the past with queries where<br>> the name of two fields in two different tables were the same. It did not<br>> seem to matter whether or not I used table.fieldName or just fieldName.<br>> So<br>> I started putting the initials of the table name as a prefix to the field<br>> name. tableOne.toFieldName tableTwo.ttFieldName.<br>><br>> Did I imagine this problem? I want to redo a database with the naming<br>> convetions spelled out in the plum tutorials...have you ever had any<br>> problems with identically named fields in different tabl es?<br>><br>> Thanks,<br>><br>> Mark Fuqua<br>><br>><br>><br>> **********************************************************************<br>> You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>> your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br>><br>> http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>> **********************************************************************<br>><br><br>**********************************************************************<br>You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change<br>your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here:<br><br>http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm<br>**********************************************************************<br><br><br><br>From: "Hatcher, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Subject: [plum] Integrating security<br>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:47:37 -0500<br>Reply-To: [email protected]<br>This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader doe s not understand<br>this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.<br><br>------_=_NextPart_001_01C5191F.66B0ECDE<br>Content-Type: text/plain<br><br>We have our own security system in place for our intranet site. Plum has<br>its own security system which I would like to disable so we don't put any<br>further burden on our employees to remember/enter passwords. Would this be<br>as simple as selecting the "Users do not need to be logged in" under User<br>Access for each project that requires this setup? -or- (the reason I'm<br>asking) is there some other technique that you would recommend that has<br>already been thought of that I haven't discovered in the product ? (how's<br>that for a run-on sentence?)<br><br>Thanks for your help.<br><br>John A. Hatcher<br>Manager of IS<br>Versa Products Co., Inc.<br> voice: (201) 843-2400 x4148<br> fax: (201) 843-2931<br> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br><br>------_=_NextPart_001_01C5191F.66B0ECDE<br>Content-Type: text/html<br>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br><br ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"><br><HTML><br><HEAD><br><META >HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; >=<br>charset=3Dus-ascii"><br><META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange >Server version =<br>5.5.2658.2"><br><TITLE>Integrating >security</TITLE><br></HEAD><br><BODY><br><br><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 >FACE=3D"Arial">We have our own security system in =<br>place for our intranet >site. Plum has its own security system =<br>which I would like to disable so >we don't put any further burden on our =<br>employees to remember/enter >passwords. Would this be as simple as =<br>selecting the "Users do not >need to be logged in" under User =<br>Access for each project that >requires this setup? -or- (the =<br>reason I'm asking) is there some other >technique that you would =<br>recommend that has already been thought of that >I haven't discovered in =<br>the product ? (how's that for a run-on >sentence?)</FONT></P><br><br>< P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks for your help.</FONT><br></P><br><br><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">John A. Hatcher</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Manager of IS</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Versa Products Co., Inc.</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> voice: (201) 843-2400 =<br>x4148</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> fax: (201) =<br>843-2931</FONT><br><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT><br></P><br><br></BODY><br></HTML><br>------_=_NextPart_001_01C5191F.66B0ECDE--<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ********************************************************************** You can subscribe to and unsubscribe from lists, and you can change your subscriptions between normal and digest modes here: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/support/DiscussionListsForm.cfm **********************************************************************
