PLUM ROCKS!

Do yourself a favor.  Work through the tutorials, build a few forms with the
IDE and then a few without the IDE.

Then, pick something the core files don't do that you wish they did.  Study
and modify one of the components/custom tags.  Then build a page using none
of the custom tags but staying within the "framework".  Make sure you do
some embedded search forms, and master/detail forms, both within the IDE and
outside it.

Spend a few weeks with PLUM and you will be amazed that productivity
enhancement has not been purchased by Macromedia er I mean Adobe.  The
application I am working on now has 74 tables (I just counted them) and I am
sure Adam and David work on sites that are quite complex and they always use
PLUM.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim
Blankenship
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [plum] New project


Model Glue lost my vote when I got to their site. It uses BlogCFC and
not their own product. Not good in my book. Then slammed with the
google ads. Now look at productivityenhancement.com and noticed it is
built with plum and no crazy ads. As for interace PLUM out of box is
somewhat dull and can me prettied a bit using the stylesheets but it
is acceptable for applications. Currently PLUM in my opinion is PLUM
is the most complete tool out there and the easist to learn.


On 12/21/05, Al Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim,
>
> In mid September I had exactly the same question: I am reworking a very
large and very old Cold Fusion web with well over 25 tables,
> and the need to develop some major new additions.
>
> I began building this web site in early 1990's with one of the very
earliest editions of ColdFusion, before there were any of the
> current crop of terrific design and code principles, practices, and tools.
Consequently, since building this web was only ONE of the
> things I do, I have never really focused on keeping my CF skills
up-to-date, and the web is a collection of old, brute-force cf
> code.
>
> With the new requirements, I decided I needed to bring the web into the
current millenium and began exploring all of the different
> options around.
>
> I can't say I did an exhaustive review and test of everything that is out
there, but I did look at a bunch of stuff, including
> Fusebox, model glue, and several other things.
>
> They all "looked good..." how to make a decision. With a GREAT deal of
trepidation I began exploring PLUM in-depth.
>
> Within a few weeks, I decided it was good enough to commit to Plum. It has
turned out to be a wonderful set of tools and, best of
> all, it incorporates current state-of-the-art models and techniques that
have been invaluable in helping me rework my old web in
> much more readable and structured forms. It's been a terrific learning
experience.
>
> Since everything in Plum is modular, well documented, and accessible, I
have been able to retrofit my complex authentication needs
> into the plum framework... Using the existing modules as my tutors.
>
> It has provided wonderfully quick and effective prototyping forms for my
existing tables, which I have then been able to tweak to
> include the features my applications require.
>
> My biggest reservation approaching Plum was that there didn't seem to be
the kind of robust user interaction here that you see with
> some of the other framework communities. However, I have found the Plum
tools to be so effective and clearly outlined that I have
> found only one problem that I wasn't able to muddle through on my own, and
there are some faithful Plum gurus who watch this list
> and provide effective answers.
>
> Between Plum and my "ColdFusion MX Bible" (both written by Adam & David
Churvis) I've been making great strides in revising our web.
>
> Although I'm unable to provide any direct comparisons with Model Glue or
the other possibilities, I'm not sorry I made any other
> choice.  I'm a very satisfied Plum user.
>
> Al
>
> --------------------------------
> Al Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Global SchoolNet Foundation
> http://www.globalschoolnet.org
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  > Behalf Of Tim Blankenship
>  > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:40 PM
>  > To: [email protected]
>  > Subject: Re: [plum] New project
>  >
>  > I would sniff the model glue and then use PLUM.
>  >
>  >
>  > On 12/21/05, Phillip Senn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I'm putting together a new project that looks like it will
>  > have about 25
>  > > tables.
>  > >
>  > > Customers, Vendors, Employees, yada yada yada.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Should I use Plum or Model Glue?
>  > >
>  > > In the words of Jeff Peters "Toss me another softball
>  > there Sparky".
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Tim Blankenship
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