Ugh, as David already pointed out, x-posting such a message leads to confusion 
where follow up responses should be send too.
I should have known better and send this to general@ in the first place.

Anyway, sending this one last time "across the board" so everyone is aware to 
follow up please on general@ now.

Now in response to Noel, see further comments below


Noel J. Bergman wrote:
+1, but ...

we now are working on a major overhaul of the Jetspeed-2 build system
(dropping the old maven-1/2 structure and replacing it with a clean
maven-2 project rewrite from scratch)

How's about dropping Maven entirely, and using a proper Ant build system?
:-)  ESPECIALLY if you are no longer going to use Maven to generate site
content.
Right, why not add some more confusion to the x-posting mess by hijacking the 
proposal and add some Maven v.s. Ant controversy ;)

I just want to say (now) that I'm of course open to discuss this further, but 
please in a separate thread.
While I might not be the biggest maven fan on this planet (for sure), I still 
do see merit in using it.
Furthermore, moving to Confluence doesn't mean we no longer can use maven to 
generate some metadata/reports/javadoc pages etc. for integrating in the site 
as well.


- switch to using this Confluence+cwiki solution

- also allow selected end users (non-committers but with a CLA on file)
  to maintain these official documentation spaces

If they have a CLA on file, and are contributing to the official project
documentation, they *ARE* Committers.  They just aren't coders, and don't
have SVN access.
Well, that's not how I understand how it is described on the CWIKI page, or 
even here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html.
Although a committer must have a CLA on file, can't a "contributer" have a CLA 
on file too without being a committer?
My interpretation (and idea behind this) was a more "light weight" process could be followed to allow contributers modifying official project documentation once they signed a CLA.
But if having a CLA on file == committer, I think it only slightly limits our 
flexibility here and won't really matter much for the proposal.

Regards,

Ate


        --- Noel




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