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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Keyboard input / init + questions (Ray Strode)
   2. Re: Keyboard input / init + questions (Ray Strode)
   3. Re: Keyboard input / init + questions (Ray Strode)
   4. Re: Keyboard input / init + questions (Jerome Martin)
   5. Re: Keyboard input / init + questions (Jerome Martin)
   6. Re: Keyboard input / init + questions (Jerome Martin)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:44:50 -0400
From: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard input / init + questions
To: Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> I cannot copy/paste it right now, but I have interesting messages in a
> screenshot attached.
> Tell me what you think.
This logs suggests the tty hang up handling is incomplete.

I'll look into it.  I'm a little surprised, though, since mandriva
still uses sysvinit and I thought this work around was good enough for
them (I think we added it for them)

--Ray


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:46:02 -0400
From: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard input / init + questions
To: Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> FYI, just finished that test, commenting out the two?TIOCSCTTY force-steals
> in init code solves the issue.
> I wonder what kind of init you normally use ? This is plain old sysvinit ...
Plymouth was primarily written on top of upstart.

--Ray


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:48:03 -0400
From: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard input / init + questions
To: Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Weird, I found some refs to?TIOCSCTTY-based tty stealing, and it seems that
> at least at some point in the past, this does not trigger a clean hangup on
> the previous controlled session side. Is this still the case or do you have
> any means of detecting the situation ?
Not sure I follow.

> Can I force plymouth splash to use any tty I want it to, or am I locked into 
> tty1 ?
Some distros run plymouth on other tty's.  You can specify which tty
to use with the --tty argument to plymouthd.

--Ray


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 23:48:46 +0200
From: Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard input / init + questions
To: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Ray Strode <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > FYI, just finished that test, commenting out the two TIOCSCTTY
> force-steals
> > in init code solves the issue.
> > I wonder what kind of init you normally use ? This is plain old sysvinit
> ...
> Plymouth was primarily written on top of upstart.
>

Ok, got it.
I am myself waiting for the debian migration to upstart is complete to
switch :-)



-- 
J?r?me Martin
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 23:49:21 +0200
From: Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard input / init + questions
To: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Ray Strode <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Weird, I found some refs to TIOCSCTTY-based tty stealing, and it seems
> that
> > at least at some point in the past, this does not trigger a clean hangup
> on
> > the previous controlled session side. Is this still the case or do you
> have
> > any means of detecting the situation ?
> Not sure I follow.
>
> > Can I force plymouth splash to use any tty I want it to, or am I locked
> into tty1 ?
> Some distros run plymouth on other tty's.  You can specify which tty
> to use with the --tty argument to plymouthd.
>

Ok, I'll try that in my initrd.

-- 
J?r?me Martin
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 23:57:10 +0200
From: Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard input / init + questions
To: Ray Strode <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ray,

Just FYI the results of cat /dev/vcs1 in both cases (with and without init
patch, respectively without stolen tty problem and wit tty problem). I find
them less informative than the ones I have already sent you, but here they
are anyway (attached).

Regards,
Jerome

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Ray Strode <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Jerome Martin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Weird, I found some refs to TIOCSCTTY-based tty stealing, and it seems
>> that
>> > at least at some point in the past, this does not trigger a clean hangup
>> on
>> > the previous controlled session side. Is this still the case or do you
>> have
>> > any means of detecting the situation ?
>> Not sure I follow.
>>
>> > Can I force plymouth splash to use any tty I want it to, or am I locked
>> into tty1 ?
>> Some distros run plymouth on other tty's.  You can specify which tty
>> to use with the --tty argument to plymouthd.
>>
>
> Ok, I'll try that in my initrd.
>
> --
> J?r?me Martin
>



-- 
J?r?me Martin
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