Thanks a lot!

aggregate_filter seems more appropriate for me - IX networks list changes
not so often.

PS Thanks you for really good and flexible product - pmacctd.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Paolo Lucente <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Evgeniy,
>
> This is great to know. aggregate_filter is quicker for the simple
> reason it is a giant filter whereas pre_tag_map makes you specify
> a collection of filters. I would add to the equation: don't under
> estimate maintainability, which is much better with pre_tag_map:
> ie. you can reload pre_tag_map content at runtime whereas you have
> to restart pmacct in order to reload an aggregate_filter.
>
> Cheers,
> Paolo
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:27:22AM +0300, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy wrote:
> > I've solved this issue using aggregate_filter[].
> > I wrote simple script that generates pcap filter from IX networks
> > list: http://download.datahata.by/parse.php.txt
> >
> > But the only one question: is there any difference between
> > aggregate_filter and pre_tag_map
> > inside pmacctd? Which one is faster? Or it doesn't matter in my case?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I have a list of networks in our IX: http://noc.datahata.by/free.txt
> > >
> > > Our customer networks are 31.130.200.0/21 and 178.172.181.0/24
> > >
> > > I wrote a script that generates from IX networks list filter like this:
> > >
> > > debian:~# ./parse | head
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 31.24.88.0/21 and not dst net
> > > 31.130.200.0/21'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 31.24.88.0/21 and not dst net
> > > 178.172.181.0/24'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 31.130.200.0/21 and not dst net
> > > 31.130.200.0/21'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 31.130.200.0/21 and not dst net
> > > 178.172.181.0/24'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 46.28.96.0/21 and not dst net
> > > 31.130.200.0/21'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 46.28.96.0/21 and not dst net
> > > 178.172.181.0/24'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 46.53.128.0/17 and not dst net
> > > 31.130.200.0/21'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 46.53.128.0/17 and not dst net
> > > 178.172.181.0/24'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 46.56.0.0/16 and not dst net
> > > 31.130.200.0/21'
> > > id=1 ip=31.130.xxx.xxx filter='dst net 46.56.0.0/16 and not dst net
> > > 178.172.181.0/24'
> > >
> > > Is this correct?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Paolo Lucente <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> Hi Evgeniy,
> > >>
> > >> It might be better (more maintanable) to use a different approach
> > >> for your task. Remove the aggregate_filter and go for pre-tagging:
> > >>
> > >> pre_tag_map: /path/to/pretag.map
> > >> pre_tag_filter[bla]: 0
> > >> refresh_maps: true
> > >> pre_tag_map_entries: <say 1000? it's an upper bound anyway>
> > >>
> > >> It means filter in traffic tagged as 0 (no tag effectively). Then
> > >> build /path/to/pretag.map as follows (with the idea what is being
> > >> tagged with id == 1 within the map is then being discarded):
> > >>
> > >> id=1 ip=<NetFlow exporter IP address> filter='dst net <IX net, ie.
> 192.168.0.0/16> and not dst net <local net, ie. 192.168.100.0/24>'
> > >> id=1 ip=<NetFlow exporter IP address> filter='src net <IX net, ie.
> 192.168.0.0/16> and not src net <local net, ie. 192.168.100.0/24>'
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> You can indeed merge the two rules above in a single one, i did
> > >> not do it just for readability. My current understanding of your
> > >> goal is that you want to bill customer/customer traffic but not
> > >> customer/IX and vice-versa.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Paolo
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:19:45AM +0300, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy wrote:
> > >>> Thanks a lot, it works for now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also i have another question, related to pcap filter.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a list of networks in our IX. It has some big networks that
> > >>> includes small networks
> > >>> that are announced from our AS.
> > >>> For example, we have 192.168.0.0/16 and 172.16.0.0/16 in IX,
> > >>> but 192.168.100.0/24 and 172.16.100.0/24 are our clients networks.
> > >>>
> > >>> Of course, we need to bill traffic from/to our clients
> > >>> (192.168.100/24, 172.16.100.0/24), but we dont need to bill
> > >>> traffic to 192.168.0.0/16 and 172.16.0.0/16.
> > >>>
> > >>> I wrote such rule:
> > >>> aggregate_filter[dsmgr]: (net not 192.168.0.0/16 and net not
> > >>> 172.16.0.0/16) and (net 192.168.100/24 or net 172.16.100.0/24)
> > >>>
> > >>> but this filter returns no traffic at all (because it removes our
> > >>> customers networks from result). Where I'm wrong in filter?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Paolo Lucente <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi Evgeniy,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > You are doing all good except aggregate_filter need to be bound to
> > >>> > a specific plugin, can't be global. The daemon is surely spitting
> an
> > >>> > error out about that. Please rewrite the two following lines and
> try
> > >>> > again:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > plugins: print[bla]
> > >>> > aggregate_filter[bla]: net not 178.120.0.0/13
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It should be that the daemon is logging errors somewhere, you might
> > >>> > want to add a 'logfile' directive for catching errors, etc.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Cheers,
> > >>> > Paolo
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 04:38:47PM +0300, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy
> wrote:
> > >>> > > Hello.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > We're using some proprietary software (dsmgr by ispsystems),
> that uses
> > >>> > > nfacctd as it's part to calculate traffic usage (by
> netflow/sflow).
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > By default dsmgr generate such nfacctd config:
> > >>> > > daemonize: true
> > >>> > > plugins: print
> > >>> > > aggregate: src_host,dst_host
> > >>> > > nfacctd_port: 9995
> > >>> > > print_refresh_time: 900
> > >>> > > print_output: csv
> > >>> > > print_output_file: /var/flowstat/%Y:%m:%d-%H:%M
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > and csv file is processed via proprietary utility runned from
> cron.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > We need to exclude some networks (in fact, our local IX) from
> billing.
> > >>> > > I've added this line:
> > >>> > > aggregate_filter: net not 178.120.0.0/13
> > >>> > > to config. (178.120.0.0/13 is one of networks that we dont need
> to bill)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > But traffic from this network still goes to csv file:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > debian:/var/flowstat# cat 2012\:09\:18-16\:23 | grep 178.120 |
> head -4
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> 0,0,unknown,00:00:00:00:00:00,00:00:00:00:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,,0,0,0,0,,,0,0,0:0:0,178.120.88.201,178.172.181.110,0,0,0,0,0,ip,0,1072,0,75723
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> 0,0,unknown,00:00:00:00:00:00,00:00:00:00:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,,0,0,0,0,,,0,0,0:0:0,178.172.181.128,178.120.217.213,0,0,0,0,0,ip,0,22085,0,16089127
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> 0,0,unknown,00:00:00:00:00:00,00:00:00:00:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,,0,0,0,0,,,0,0,0:0:0,178.172.181.95,178.120.60.190,0,0,0,0,0,ip,0,1695,0,159303
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> 0,0,unknown,00:00:00:00:00:00,00:00:00:00:00:00,0,0,0,0,0,0,,0,0,0,0,,,0,0,0:0:0,178.120.112.234,178.172.181.64,0,0,0,0,0,ip,0,1326,0,120156
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Where i'm wrong?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> With best regards, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > With best regards, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > With best regards, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy
>



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With best regards, Evgeniy Kozhuhovskiy
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