Thanks Armin for these notes. I reply inline:

>> well, there are frameworks like GeoExt that might already have offered
> this type of functionality. Did you ever try them?


As you know, GeoExt is more a client viewer, decouled by the server side.
What I like in Pmapper is the integrated environment, where with few
configurations you obtain a full-featured system (client+server).
Having an admin API would allow the configuration to be made through a web
based UI, or even a desktop app. This would simplify/streamline the process
of setting up and deploying maps and services for the end-user.


>
>
>  Armin, do you have any plans about it? Will you put it out when things are
>> done, or will you share the code while working on it?
>>
>
> So far quite some parts are still a bit under construction with frequent
> and possibly still deeper changes. It was not always easy to understand the
> sometimes strange logic of OL, and the OL mailing list was of no help for
> very specific questions (I practically never got any reply). So I was
> sometimes close to abandon the idea of using OL. Now I found most ways for
> workarounds, and the map navigation and interaction tools are mainly
> working.
>
> I'm currently in the final stage of rewriting the old and badly structured
> query code of p.mapper, this might be even possible to port it back to the
> p.mapper 4 (the new one will be version 5). The query stuff is again a bit
> of a mess, this time from the side of MapServer. But the new query classes
> should allow more easily to write you own functionality for the query
> result display if needed since this is now decoupled from actually getting
> the query result.
>
> A missing part is also the printing where I will mainly have to
> investigate how to print tiled layers that are not available via Mapserver
> (like OSM layers, Google layers will anyway not be allowed to be included
> in printings).
>
> Just to give an idea how the composition of layers from mapserver and OL
> works: You can define as now to have all MS layers (or groups) being
> rendered on a single map image, with or without tiling. Or you can split
> groups of layers into a few blocks, each block is an OL layer (I call the
> OL layers 'olThemes' to avoid too much of naming confusion). The
> combination which layers are rendered together or separately can be done in
> any type of combination. Using tiled layers for the time being will require
> to use the Google spherical mercator projection for the map. I cerated 2
> new types of new OL layers, one tiled and the other non-tiled. Both are
> based on MapScript and will only work inside a user PHP session.
>
> It will be very likely that the first release version of p.mapper 5 will
> have some very specific functionalities not yet included, and most likely
> also only a few plugins will work already then.
>
> When the code is a bit more stable I will put it on the SVN, depending
> also if anyone is interested in contributing some developments. I might put
> a preliminary beta version out in the next week or so, so that people can
> have a look at it on their own installation.
>
>
Great work. I'm not able to comment your points in this moment, I need to
have a look to the code, but it sounds great!
I hope to have a ride on it soon ;)


> A first draft version (already 2 weeks old) is available at
> http://www.pmapper.net/demo/**pmapper-5-dev/<http://www.pmapper.net/demo/pmapper-5-dev/>
> http://www.pmapper.net/demo/**pmapper-5-dev/?config=**singletile<http://www.pmapper.net/demo/pmapper-5-dev/?config=singletile>


OSM within Pmapper! That's what I was longing for ;)

giovanni
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