Quote from top of donations page: "Also note that although Petko has estimated the likely effort, no-one has yet committed to actually doing the work."
... and further down, quoting Petko's email: "The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available." That last part sounded pretty committed to me... Petko, you mentioned that you have a list of things you plan to do for the editor; what's on the donations page sounds pretty vague. Especially "The rich-text editor will be in addition to the normal wiki-text editor." sounds strange... why have 2 toolbars? Are we going to wind up with html AND wiki markup in the pages? If so, I would not use it... I worked a bit a while ago on a layer-based toggle (working in a rich-text field that would switch to a normal edit textarea with the markup exposed and back). I could not make it cross-browser - it would work only in IE5.5, so I gave it up. Cheers, Radu On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 18:57, DaveG <[email protected]> wrote: > I added a page Cookbook/WYSIWYG-donations, and included the pledges made in > this thread. For those who pledged, please check I have your information > correct. > > > ~ ~ Dave > > > > On 5/17/2011 9:10 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > >> I'm willing to set up whatever accounts etc. are needed to >> sure the funds all make it to the right places, whether that's >> through pledgie, kickstarter, etc. (I have plenty of paypal, >> amazon associate, etc. accounts that I can use for this.) >> >> But I don't want to start setting things up until we have at >> least 60% of the pledges needed to reach the goal. So, until >> then it might be worthwhile to just create a page on PmWiki.org >> describing the campaign, the target, what will be delivered, >> and how close we are to the final goal. When the number reaches >> around 60% of the total, I'll start making the official transfer >> channels open. >> >> Pm >> >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:56:31PM -0400, DaveG wrote: >> >>> Perhaps something like pledgie http://pledgie.com/site/faq (used >>> within Github for project support) would be useful to track >>> commitments to the goal. >>> >>> I'd set it up, but the recipient needs to enter a Paypal address to >>> facilitate funds transfer. >>> >>> >>> ~ ~ Dave >>> >>> On 5/14/2011 5:25 PM, Al Louis Ripskis wrote: >>> >>>> Petko Yotov<[email protected]>Sent: May 14, 2011 3:36 PM >>>>> The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't >>>>> collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available. >>>>> >>>> Guys, >>>> I'm relatively new to this list, so I have no idea how this type of >>>> contract has been handled in the past. >>>> My first instinct would be to consult Pm on this. Also how would the >>>> collection be handled? >>>> As to the cost, it of course would depend on how many of would >>>> contribute. >>>> Today the euro to $US dollar rate is 1 to 1.411. So 2100 euros translate >>>> to $US2,963.10. >>>> So if a 100 of us contributed, it would be $29.63 each. >>>> If 50 then it would be $59.26. >>>> If thirty, then it would be $98.77, or round off to $100. >>>> Now could we have a show of hands--or in this case e-mails--as to how >>>> many of you and how much you would be willing to contribute. >>>> I'll start of with $100, if necessary. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Al >>>> >>>> To: Al Louis Ripskis<[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: pmwiki-users<[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [pmwiki-users] Follow-Up:Whither WYSIWYG? >>>>> Contract/Contribution >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday 14 May 2011 14:30:30 Al Louis Ripskis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did my email slip through the cracks? Or is there some >>>>>> other reason why you haven't responded? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is not easy to estimate this kind of work. Such a module can be done >>>>> fairly >>>>> quickly (2-3 days) but without a good integration with PmWiki and with >>>>> potential security holes, as a couple of users expressed their >>>>> concerns. >>>>> >>>>> PmWiki has lots of features and different configurations. Such a module >>>>> has to >>>>> work in many different environments, like different settings for >>>>> passwords, >>>>> diffrent uploads directories, different servers, and different >>>>> browsers. >>>>> Additional modules need to be written - file picker (with thumbnails?), >>>>> asynchronous uploader (upload a file while you edit a page), internal >>>>> link >>>>> picker (autocomplete?). The most difficult decision is how to store and >>>>> differenciate the feature-limited RichText input from wiki-code which >>>>> can have >>>>> unlimited features and local customizations. >>>>> >>>>> Last but not least, it is not possible to write such a complex program >>>>> at once >>>>> - there will certainly be bugs to be fixed as they are uncovered, >>>>> features >>>>> added or changed, and the module has to be supported in the future. >>>>> >>>>> "What do you estimate it would take to do it, and how long would it >>>>>> take? What cost?" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is a Quote: >>>>> >>>>> 2 weeks of work for a working beta prototype, including: >>>>> * integration with PmWiki pages, passwords and upload directories >>>>> * modules file picker/uploader, link picker >>>>> * full documentation >>>>> * 1 year bugfixing/support on the Cookbook Talk page or in the PITS >>>>> * free software under the GNU GPL, MIT-style license or WTFPL/PD (the >>>>> best >>>>> things in life are free) >>>>> >>>>> The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't >>>>> collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available. >>>>> >>>>> Note that the features of the rich-text editor will be limited - not >>>>> all >>>>> existing HTML tags or attributes can be available, and not all PmWiki >>>>> markups >>>>> can have a rich-text "button". The rich-text editor will be in addition >>>>> to the >>>>> normal wiki-text editor. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Petko >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pmwiki-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users >>>> >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > pmwiki-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users >
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