Forgeot Eric (2011-09-13 22:15):
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> Again, I don't necessary thing everything should be redesigned, but a few 
> adjustement could help to look better. The geany website (powered by PmWiki) 
> is a good example of an attractive design, yet quite close to the original : 
> http://geany.org/ . There are still blue links, but it's not  color:blue; . 
> It's not perfect (followed links are not noticeable, it's still using 
> tables), but it doesn't give a bad first impression.

The fixed width and centered box at geany.org looks kind of squeezed even
with 1280x1024 resolution. The colors need more contrast: dark-gray on
light-gray for text and soft-blue on light-gray for links isn't good for
the eyes. Moreover, pmwiki.org skin adapts better to smaller widths, and
it only needs 'max-width: 60em;' on #wikitext to adapt better to wide
screens (and perhaps some tuning to padding).

> Also I don't think the default design is **that** easy to configurate, 
> especially because of the tables which are probably necessary to remove (I 
> don't find they render good in text based browsers, in links it's ok, but not 
> in lynx).

I didn't find it that easy to configure either. But I have a bad habit of
starting from scratch...

> Also the menu is called wikileft, which needs to be renamed if the user 
> wishes to put it on the right.

Yes, a skin update would do good to rename it to wikinav, wikiside or
something.

> The reference to microsoft-only fonts could be avoided: arial, verdana. 
> Serif, sans-serif could be enough.

Yes, and a comment could point to pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Fonts, which
could point to google.com/webfonts :)

> I'd suggest to use a sans-serif for the menu, and a serif for the content, 
> because serif is easier to read when there is lots of text (but this could be 
> discussed)

It really depends on the font and the text size, not on font type.

> A fixed width, centered text area could be more readable for bigger screens. 
> For smaller ones, the current theme is not adapted, in particular because of 
> the left menu: on my phone, I have to scroll to be able to read the text. For 
> helping people reading from a mobile phone or small screen, it's better to 
> use this kind of recipe: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/DetectMobile 
> together with this kind of skin (I've made a derivative for my websites): 
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IPMWikiSkin

If #wikileft were floated, you would still have to scroll, but vertically
instead of horizontally. Not sure which is easier with mobile browsers.
I think that the default skin shouldn't resort to user agent sniffing (ala
DetectMobile), but it could try to adapt better with CSS.

-- 
--  Rogutės Sparnuotos

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