That looks interesting, though I can't imagine throwing out the hundreds of 
hours I've spent on a pmwiki site over the past 5 months to start fresh with 
this.

Any chance we could convince them to upgrade zap for pmwiki?

Best,

Erik
On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Simon <[email protected]> wrote:

> Erik
> 
> the author of Zap went on to produce http://www.boltwire.com/
> 
> regards
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> On 26 March 2015 at 07:55, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> All of the above were a top priority for me when I started building my site.  
> I've been reading and rereading the security documentation for PMWiki, as 
> well as documentation on various recipes dealing with authentication.  I 
> installed authuser successfully and I kno how to use the attr action to sed 
> permissions.  I was able to put off this whole mess for many months as some 
> minor features and the skin as well as the training of publisher level users 
> could be done without making a detaled group policy or implementing and 
> testing the various tools.  Now that these are basically done, the real fun 
> begins and I'm daunted.
> 
> First, account creation and login procedures themselves have to be secure.  I 
> was thinking of using
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/SwitchToSSLMode
> for this.
> 
> Second, users have to be able to sign themselves up.  I tried
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/UserAdmin
> But didn't get very far with it at all.
> 
> Third, we need to be able to collect data on users and securely store user 
> profiles.  I played with
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/AuthProfile
> But it didn't work out, and I'm not sure it's either as secure or robust as I 
> need it to be.  A better option might be
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/AuthUserDbase
> but it has three or four dependencies, and then you still have to do 
> something to allow each user access to his or her own information.  That 
> would probably be
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/DataQuery
> 
> All that, even before I start on the value added services that would make 
> people want to sign up.  For that, I really wanted to use
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/ZAP
> because of it installes a lot of the functions I want all at oncc and has a 
> handler for account creation and logins.  I installed it, but I couldn't make 
> a simple loging page work despite going over the documentation very 
> thoroughly.  Seeing that it's last update was in 2007, it may be safe to 
> assume the issue isn't all my fault and that compatibility issues have crept 
> in.
> 
> I looked at fox forms.  Fox is heavily moduler, meaning you don't have to 
> take a bunch of crap you don't want to get the features you do want.  Or, you 
> have to spend a bit more time installing and testing each feature you want 
> separately.  All depending on your point of view. It doesn't have some of the 
> features I want, such as signup and login, a shopping cart, or paypal 
> intergration, so I would have to go out and install other recipes anyway.  
> That's why I'm not kean on it despite the fact that it seems to be up to date 
> and very powerful in it's own right.
> 
> It's super important to me to get this right, but I am daunted by the sheer 
> number of recipes available, the fact that some are pretty old or in alpa or 
> beta stages and haven't been updated in years, and the need to have the 
> proper workflow order for putting all this stuff in.
> 
> ANy tips you can give me to save time would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
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