FYI, new release procedures pending.
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<div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">robert burrell donkin wrote:
(before this gets out of hand, i'm just asking about the official policy rather than the rights and wrongs of this policy. my only aim is to be able to correct any misleading statements posted on lists before they become major issues.)

in a recent thread, an opinion was expressed by a committer that the removal of releasable units (eg. sub-projects and sub-sub-projects) from jakarta to the new functional project is the official policy of the jakarta pmc - with or without the approval of the current committers.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-dev&m=104517696322936&w=2

after following the discussions on community and elsewhere, i formed the impression that in the end it would be left to the communities involved.

has a formal vote been taken on forced removal of releasable units from jakarta (ie removal against the wishes of the communities)?

has a decision been taken at a higher level about enforced removal?

- robert
No. There has been no enforced removals. Nor do I expect there to ever be any.

Essentially, the only change to Jakarta itself that has been done to date is the enlarging of the PMC. The only (unratified as of yet by this PMC) plans that I have is to first enable every PMC member to vote on every release of every sub-(sub-)*project, and then at some much later point make it only members of the PMC that can express binding votes on releases.

Given that I don't expect most of us to express votes on codebases that we are not involved with, and that by that time all of the thought leaders of *any* codebase in Jakarta will be members of the PMC, I don't expect this to be a noticable change operationally to anybody.

With one exception: those that actively wish to exclude others that are recoginized members of the community from participating will be unable to do so on crucial release votes. As release votes are majority votes and not subject to veto, again, I don't expect this to become an issue. I don't expect to see PMC members participating en masse in technical issues or issues relating to duplication of function. However, I could see it occuring on policy related issues, such as licencing, security, or dependencies on unstable and unreleased code.

Why is this being done? The board wants projects to be accountable for everything released by that project. I am trying to address that desire in the least disruptive manner possible.

All this being said, if the majority of committers to any codebase wishes to be elsewhere (for any reason), they are likely to get not only my vote but my active support.

- Sam Ruby

P.S. While I would prefer each PMC member to spread this in their own words, feel free to forward this as you see fit.


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