Glen, Rainer,

To tell the truth, I also agree with this point.

Especially, this line:

> Vetoing the making of this decision was not cool

--

My preference (opinion) is "Poi" rather than "POI".
Because

1. This project used this "POI" as acronym and the market knows
   the *fact*.
2. Making all letters capitalized means "acronym". See the other
   jakarta subprojects. (BSF,BCEL,ECS,ORO,...)
3. From marketing point of view, I am [+1] to "Poi", to wipe out
   the dark image in the past.

--

Also, from my point of view, Andy's "veto" declaration was
not cool.
I declared, "this vote will be passed if the average of the
votes will be greater than 0.5".. It meant, "This vote
will not be passed even two(+1) and one(-1) .. at least we need
three(+1) and less than one(-1)". And, vise versa.
I thought, "this vote will not be passed, I know.
But, there were no *conversation* (involve all the committers)
about this issue before, it seems.
The *process* will be precious rather than the *result*."

Andy's declaration was a bit against the community process, it seems.
(I am very sad to say, however ...)

There might be one more choice:
  1. Product name: Jakarta Poi
  2. Project name: Jakarta POI

-- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

P.S. Rather, is it better to be emphasized?
"Why was there no vote on the fork of 3.0?"

--

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:53:34 +1000
Glen Stampoultzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Rainer, I agree.
> 
> Although I preferred Poi I feel it's much more important to be 
> consistent.  A simple vote would have cleared this whole point up and we 
> would no longer be having this conversation.  Vetoing the making of this 
> decision was not cool and reflects an unwillingness on Andy's part to let 
> go of his baby.
> 
> -- Glen
> 
> At 07:02 AM 30/07/2003, you wrote:
> > >It is not appropriate to go through the docs and change one to another,
> > >however we have not indeed voted to change from the convention that both are
> > >acceptable.  Spelling it Poi on new Doc's that are created is ATM
> > >acceptable.
> >
> >This is a typical purely technical attitude. What do you think why 
> >Microsoft is so successful? Because of its superior quality products? Look 
> >and there marketing and learn! Do you think they don't care whether they 
> >spell it "Windows", "WINDOWS" or "wInDoWs"?
> >
> >
> > >It REALLY bugs me that this issue is achieving greater importance than our
> > >next release.
> >
> >Believe me, it is at least equally important. That "POI" or "Poi" spelling 
> >makes at least a sloppy impression. Impression counts. Would you rely your 
> >enterprise-critical application on a sloppy product. But wait, no, POI 
> >isn't a product: It does not even have a brand!
> >
> >
> >Best regards
> >Rainer ("out of town 'till Thursday") Klute


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