Technically Jakarta is the project and all committers are theoretically Jakarta committers, it is only that Jakarta organizes itself differently. Moreover, infrastructure probably is in the "kill Jakarta" and "become a top level project" camp.

My own viewpoint is that being top level really offers us nothing and looses valuable branding. Worse it adds the necessity to maintain a private PMC list which tends to assume the bulk of discussion. While I do not share this view, a cynical view is that killing Jakarta as a brand serves certain large interests in that Jakarta is a powerful brand in Java and until recently was a more powerful brand than Apache in Java. I believe there was a desire to create a more cohesive Apache and this was seen as part of the way. I however do not think one has anything to do with the other.

At one time I had an automated script running the website but I was asked to shut it down.

-Andy

Nick Burch wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Avik Sengupta wrote:

Usually we try to keep all files group(jakarta) writable.. I'm not sure how receptive the infra group will be about a new unix group. Your suggestions below would work with group jakarta, no?


Yes, but it would mean that any jarkarta committer could update the site, which isn't ideal. But, it might have to do (if the infrastructure team aren't keen on creating new unix groups)

If we do decide to stick with just jakarta permissions: Glen, can you fire off these commands on cvs.apache.org?
    cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/poi
    chown -R .jakarta .
    find . -type d -exec chmod 2775 {} \;
    find . -type f -exec chmod 0664 {} \;
(That'll ensure everything is group owned by jakarta, set the directories to group write with group sticky bit set, and set the files to group write)

Nick

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