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Today the ports. Tomorrow the zoos,
Nobody has been able to beat Islam.
Turks tried it and in less than four
generations
they were all muslims.
----- Original Message -----
Well, looks like it is good old goose-steppin'
NAZI Germany all over again, plus 'citizens spying on citizens', informing on
citizens all over USSR again.And the Government is sponsoring this 'terrorist
hysteria, on top of it creating zillion terrorists by bombing countries. Are
you nuts or am I nuts & bolts??!!Where has America gone??!! Very sad.
Quite understandable....."FEAR does it & offer of 'protection' does it
better. You know quite well that I am 'making nothing up??!!' Questioning
& analyzing is not 'making up'. But since you are such a Government
'ass-kissing-loyalist' you cannot tolerate anything contrary to what the
Government thought-controlls you into.
Besides, I will always oppose
those who harm the USA by making enemies around the world & by endangering
Americans around the world by their irresponsible & imperialistic &
enemy-making Policies.Like most sane & logical folks, sorry I have a habit
of never, ever believing the Government.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you are talking about isn't dissent, it is making up stupid
shit.
In a message dated 2/22/2006 4:02:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes: Yes, ofcourse that's the "GW Junta" way. Kill
any disagreement/dissent with accusations of "Unpatriotic, enemy,
terrorist" accusation. Fantastic way to stop people from questioning &
trhinking. Why such fear of dissent & questioning &
investigating??!! Because definately the Government has many things to
hide.Looks like the US constitution has been dumped & replaced with
fear.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jimmy isn't smart enough to figure this out, and it doesn't really
matter what he thinks anyway. He is one of the enemy and one would
expect his kind of viewpoint from an
enemy. -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy
Jumshade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: K. Malik
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 07:52:16 -0800
(PST) Subject: Re: The Impossibility of Flying Heavy Aircraft W/out
Training- Physics911.net
Like I
said before KHM; "regarding open-heart-surgery" I will fully believe a
heart-surgeon as an authority on it. Regarding big commercial aircraft I
will believe a professional Airline Captain & not any government or
GW & Junta. So on the 9-11 aircraft I believe my older brother who
has flown big commercial jets for over 30 years & his fellow pilots.
My Nephew is doing great in his Profession, it is just the
process meted out by Aviation Organisations (Such as FAA) which requires
a certain amount of time & training before a pilot is cleared to fly
big jets. One cannot ever & ever learn to fly big jets at Cessna
flying schools in a couple of weeks. Nor can any human-being hi-jack 4
giant aircraft with mere box-cutters.
To reach the big jets one
must go thru requirements which cannot be by-passed just like medical
Doctors cannot bypass their requirements & doses of training. But if
you prefer to believe Governments who can openly lie about imaginary
WMD's, it is up to you.
"K.
Malik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HEY
'JJ',
PLEASE DO NOT THINK WITH CLOSED MIND. BE
AN
OPEN-MINDED PERSON.
NO TWO PEOPLE ARE EXACTLY ALIKE. ONE
STUDENT CAN
GRADUATE FROM A TOP COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY IN 3-4
YEARS
AND OTHERS MAY TAKE MORE THAN 6-8 YEARS, AND SOME
NEVER
EVEN GRADUATE !!!
USA HAS SHOWN YOU THE PROOF OF THE PILOT
TRAINING
COURSES THOSE HIJACKERS TOOK IN USA. THEY WERE
VERY
SMART PEOPLE AND LEARNED IT GOOD. THEY HAD PLANNED
FOR
YEARS. VIDEOS SHOWED THEM BOARDING THE PLANES &
LEAVING
THEIR NOTES & CARS BEHIND !!! WHAT ELSE DO YOU
WANT?
IF
YOUR NEPHEW CANNOT MASTER HIS PROFESSION THEN IT IS
HIS PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THOSE
HIJACKERS HAD TO
SUBDUE/KILL THE PILOT/CO-PILOT AND
TAKE OVER THE CONTROLS OF A
FLYING PLANE.
ONCE THEY HAD THE CONTROL OF THE PLANE, IT WAS
NOT
DIFFICULT TO TURN IT AROUND AND FLY STRAIGHT INTO A
TALL
BUILDING!!! COME ON IT WAS NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
TELL YOU DEAR
BROTHER ... THAT A SMART PERSON CAN
LEARN FAST WHEN HE GETS MANY
MONTHS OF HANDS-ON
TRAINING IN GREAT AMERICAN INSTITUTES AS HOW TO
FLY A
PLANE....!!!
DO NOT REJECT THE FACTS FOR THE SAKE OF
REJECTING. I
LIVE IN LAANDHY, KARACHI, AND EVEN I THINK THAT I
CAN
FLY A PLANE...AFTER 6 MONTHS' TRAINING. (I KNOW HOW TO
FLY A
KITE !!!)
KM
==
--- Jimmy Jumshade
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> And further, KHM;
>
> John F Kennedy Junior was a newly trained small
>
Cessna type aircraft flyer. But he was not trained
> in
'night-flying' therefore he crashed along with
> his
girl-friend. You see, he got totally
> dis-oriented.......most
probably.......did not know
> whether he was flying upside down
or
> up-right-straight..............the stars look like
>
the city & the city looks like the stars(sky looks
> like
land & land looks liker sky) in night flying,
> which is why
he crashed. Big commercial jets are a
> whole different
ball-game & once again, I will
> believe a Professional
Commercial big jet Captain
> above GW/government. Just like I
will believe an
> open heart surgeon specialist regarding
heart
> surgery above government or GW & Co.
>
>
>
> Jimmy Jumshade
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> KHM Sahib:
>
> I
will believe a Professional Airline pilot above
> any
government's claims. It is not an automobile
> which can be
"steered". Those aircraft were running
> around US airspace for
more than an hour.& I will
> never ever be stupid enough to
accept like a lamb
> government claims.I will always question
& what does
> not sound right is not right.
>
>
One is completely dis-oriented if one is not a
> professional
airline pilot while flying big
> Commercial jets. Cannot be
done. Why are you
> deliberately ignoring facts??!! I told you
my nephew
> has been flying Commercial aircraft for 2
whole
> years yet he has not been cleared to fly the big
>
Commericail jets. He started with Cessnas, single
> engine, then
twin engine, then turboprops, the now
> small jets after 2
years.
>
> Check google & you can see "American
Commercial
> Airline pilots association's" statement which
said,
> "It is impossible" but were told to "shut up or
>
else" by the Government. Anyways, up to you believe
> what you
want & let others believe what they want.
> The GW Junta
cannot stop the world from thinking but
> they are trying very
hard. Regards..........
>
>
>
>
>
> "K. Malik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: HEY
>
'JJ',
>
> NOT ALL 19 HIJACKERS WERE TRAINED. BUT, SOME
DID GET
> EXTENSIVE TRAINING IN USA. THEY ONLY NEEDED A
LITTLE
> BIT OF TRAINING AS HOW TO KEEP FLYING A PLANE,
WHICH
> WAS ALREADY FLYING..... IS IT TOO HARD TO LEARN
???
>
>
> THEN IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF STEARING
THE PLANE.
> COME
> ON GUYS. IT WAS NOT A 'ROCKET
SCIENCE' THAT 5-6 OF
> THESE PEOPLE COULD NOT LEARN. I AM SURE
THEY WERE
> PLANNING THIS FOR MANY YEARS !!!
>
>
SO, STOP CONFUSING YOURSELF AND SPEND TIME ON SOME
> OTHER
TOPICS, AS TO HOW MUSLIMS CAN UNITE, DEVELOP
> THEMSELVES, AND
IMPROVE THEIR CONDITION.
>
> THANK YOU.
>
>
KM
> ==
>
>
> --- Jimmy Jumshade
wrote:
>
> > Preciesly, my older brother who has flown
big
> > Commericial jets for over 30 years says the
same
> > thing. The American Airline Pilots
Association
> said
> > the same thing but were told to
"Shut-up or else"
> by
> > the GW Junta.
> >
> > My bro who was Captain of 747 aircraft for over
10
> > years says that today if he was given controll
of
> > the more sophisticated 757, 767 aircraft he
will
> not
> > be able to fly it without conversion
training.And
> on
> > this I believe my brother &
his experience & not
> GW
> > & Co. My Nephew
after 2 years of training is still
> > not qualified to fly
big jets, he still after 2
> > years flies small Commercial
aircraft for a major
> > American Airline doing short
hops.Plus small
> Cessna
> > flying Clubs don't even
have sophisticated big
> jet
> > simulators. So how
come 19 dumb arabs started
> flying
> > like pros in a
matter of days??!!
> >
> >
> >
>
> "S.T.Ill Freeman"
> > wrote:
> > The
Impossibility of Flying Heavy Aircraft Without
> >
Training
> >
> > Nila Sagadevan | February 21
2006
> >
> >
> >
> > Nila
Sagadevan is an aeronautical engineer and a
> > qualified
pilot of heavy aircraft.
> >
> >
> >
There are some who maintain that the mythical
> 9/11
>
> hijackers, although proven to be too incompetent
>
to
> > fly a little Cessna 172, had acquired the
>
impressive
> > skills that enabled them to fly airliners
by
> > training in flight simulators.
> >
>
>
> > What follows is an attempt to bury this
myth
> once
> > and for all, because I�ve heard this
ludicrous
> > explanation bandied about, ad nauseam, on
the
> > Internet and the TV networks�invariably by
>
people
> > who know nothing substantive about flight
>
> simulators, flying, or even airplanes.
> >
> >
> >
> > A common misconception non-pilots have
about
> > simulators is how �easy� it is to
operate
> them.
> > They are indeed relatively easy to
operate if the
> > objective is to make a few lazy turns and
frolic
> > about in the �open sky�. But if the intent
is
> to
> > execute any kind of a maneuver with even
the least
> > bit of precision, the task immediately
becomes
> quite
> > daunting. And if the aim is to
navigate to a
> > specific geographic location hundreds of
miles
> away
> > while flying at over 500 MPH, 30,000
feet above
> the
> > ground the challenges become
virtually impossible
> > for an untrained pilot.
> >
> >
> > And this, precisely, is what the four
hijacker
> > pilots who could not fly a Cessna around
an
> airport
> > are alleged to have accomplished in
multi-ton,
> > high-speed commercial jets on 9/11.
>
>
> >
> > For a person not conversant with the
practical
> > complexities of pilotage, a modern
flight
> simulator
> > could present a terribly
confusing and
> disorienting
> > experience. These
complex training devices are not
> > even remotely similar to
the video games one sees
> in
> > amusement arcades, or
even the software versions
> > available for home
computers.
> >
> >
> >
> > In
order to operate a modern flight simulator
> with
> >
any level of skill, one has to not only be a
> decent
>
> pilot to begin with, but also a skilled
> >
instrument-rated one to boot � and be thoroughly
> >
familiar with the actual aircraft type the
> simulator
>
> represents, since the cockpit layouts vary between
> >
aircraft.
> >
> >
> > The only flight
domains where an arcade/PC-type
> > game would even begin to
approach the degree of
> > visual realism of a modern
professional flight
> > simulator would be during the
take-off and landing
> > phases. During these phases, of
course, one
> clearly
> > sees the bright runway
lights stretched out ahead,
>
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