[This was written before the last message -- I hope it will be the last word on Holmgren and his associates.]
Holmgren demonstrates once again why the no-planer cult has made so many enemies and inspires so much disgust.
He accuses me of not caring about the truth concerning 9/11, when in fact I care so much about it that I've studied and analyzed reams evidence, and taken great care to not to claim to know the truth in those areas where so far it is unknowable with any certainty. Not only that, I've stuck my neck out in pushing for the debunking of the 9/11 story in every way possible. For this, one is abused by Holmgren, a neocon apologist who is working to sow as much dissension as possible among 9/11 skeptics.
Holmgren, like all
zealots, has very low truth standards. He demands ironclad answers where none are available to thoughtful people.
With regard to all of Holmgren's questions: I don't know. And neither does he.
A plane or a missile may or may not have hit the Pentagon -- the available evidence is contradictory.
WTC7 was probably brought down by controlled demolition, but I don't know for certain. Steven Jones never engages in personal attacks with those who don't fully agree with his analysis. This is why he has credibility and respect and the no-planers don't.
None of the key questions about the operational details of 9/11 can be answered until a full and honest investigation is
conducted. A meaningful investigation will occur only if a critical mass of mainstream Americans is persuaded that it is necessary, by 9/11 skeptics and researchers with effective communications skills. By engaging in COINTELPRO-style attacks on the most effective 9/11 skeptics, the no-planers are making it less, not more likely, that such an investigation will take place.
I would still like to hear Webfairy's explanation for why Holmgren turns disagreements with Israel and the neoconservatives into attacks on "the Jews." It sure sounds like this guy has a very familiar agenda. Most of the people associated with that agenda have been doing everything in their power to shut down the 9/11 skeptics. Sounds like COINTELPRO to me. Worm your way into a movement and then burn it to the ground.
The Webfairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Subject: RE: [Fwd: [ctrl] On Building an Effective 9/11 Truth Movement]
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:01:08 +1000
From: Gerard Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]net.au >
To: 'The Webfairy' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]y.com >
Huh ?
Sean McBride has just been telling us that he doesnt care what the truth
is.
Furthermore, I as a lowly wretchling without the intellectual capacity to
determine the truth for myself, recently begged and beseeched his
magnificence Griffin to tell me what the truth is and he wouldnt.
So then I turned to another mighty intellect in Seam McBride, begging and
beseeching him to tell me what truth I should believe.
Did AA77 hit the pentagon ?
Was there a demolition ?
He wont tell me either. In fact he doesnt even care.
Now I am wracked with confusion and doubt.
I am ready to shout from the rooftops whatever truth Lord Griffin commands
me to shout. All I ask, in my lowly wretchling manner is - may I be
permitted to know exactly what this truth is ?
-----Original Message-----
From: The Webfairy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]y.com ]
Sent: Monday, 26 June 2006 3:50 PM
To: Gerard Holmgren
Subject: [Fwd: [ctrl] On Building an Effective 9/11 Truth Movement]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [ctrl] On Building an Effective 9/11 Truth Movement
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:57:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com >
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]com
To: political-research@yahoogroups. , ctrl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com com >,
apfn-1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com >
On Building an Effective 9/11 Truth Movement
Building an effective 9/11 truth movement, one which may be able to
acquire enough steam to inspire the American people to demand answers
for the hundreds of outstanding questions about 9/11, will require
enlisting as many sincere and bright minds as possible. Accomplishing
this will require tolerating a wide range of diverse opinions and
theories about what really happened on 9/11. The only price of admission
should be the willingness to challenge the official story, using facts
and reason.
Any parties in the movement that are engaging in COINTELPRO-style
attacks on the most effective voices for opening up a real official
investigation into 9/11 should be thoroughly ostracized and ignored, in
my opinion -- not given the time of day. They are working to destroy
effective coalition-building of the kind that is necessary to push 9/11
to the front and center of the American political agenda.
If no-planers want to be taken seriously, they will have to treat other
9/11 skeptics, all across the spectrum, with civility and respect.
Otherwise, they will understandably become the targets of the very same
abuse they are dishing out.
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