Sean, Let me grant that you may be correct in general. However, let's look at some words published by the pair:
Link Here: http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp\ _06_011_walt.pdf Here's a quote: According to the U.S. 9/11 Commission, bin Laden explicitly sought to punish the United States for its policies in the Middle East, including its support for Israel, and he even tried to time the attacks to highlight this issue.16 Now I ask you, if the pair remotely had a clue that bin Laden is a fake boogie man, why would they include something that gives credibility to the 9/11 Commission and bin Laden. I submit the pair are clueless to what happened on 9/11. I believe that you may find there scholarly work worthy, but I suggest that they have missed the most obvious physical manifestation of the environment created by the Lobby (or just supported to some extent by the Lobby depending on one's theories). I support your irratation with Webfairy / Holmgren, but your alternative example is just not a fair comparison, and seems empty to me. Tell me one thing that has changed "on the ground" by M & S articles. Has they it influenced Congression actions? Will they influence this Fall's elections? Has they curtailed anything about the Lobby, or the current American Administration? --- In [email protected], Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, > > I wouldn't presume to read Mearsheimer's and Walt's minds on 9/11, or to demand that they make this or that statement on the subject. > > The higher one rises in the academic world, and in the world in general, the more careful one has to be about how many and which fights one picks. The more influential you are, the greater the retaliation you are likely to suffer if you step on the wrong toes. > > By taking on the Israel lobby as they have, M&W have already demonstrated far more courage than 99% of their colleagues. One should congratulate them for their efforts to open up that subject. > > Many high level people in the government strongly suspect, or know for a certainty, that 9/11 was an inside job and false flag terrorist op. They are waiting to speak up for when it is less dangerous to do so. Those few government and former government officials who have spoken up already deserve a great deal of credit, whether they subscribe to the no-planes theory or not. > > The lower one is on the food chain, the easier it is to pick lots of fights and make many controversial statements. The bad guys don't pay much attention to the small fry. > > I regard it is a major step forward when any American citizen questions any aspect of the official story on 9/11 in whatever terms they feel comfortable with. I don't apply a litmus test for believing in any particular theory. > > > Bill Giltner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sean, > > If John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt are two of the "best minds", why > aren't they raising issues about 9/11? > > --- In [email protected], Sean McBride > smcbride2@ wrote: > > > > The Geralee Holmfairy Blob Thingie > > > > These days it's impossible to differentiate Gerard Holmgren's and > Rosalee Grable's posts on many topics -- they seem to have merged into > a single personality, with the effect of reducing Grable's > intelligence and truthfulness. Address a post to one and you are > likely to receive a response from the other, speaking for the > two-headed creature as a whole. > > > > I googled Holmgren on Israel, and discovered that he is in fact > much preoccupied with the topic, while knowing absolutely nothing > about American politics, Israeli politics, Mideast politics or the > role of the Israel lobby in American politics. > > > > Compare Holmgren's essay on the subject here: > > > > http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/holm.htm > > > > with that of Stephen Sniegoski here: > > > > http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc1.htm > > > > or that of John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt here: > > > > http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011 > > > > One moves from a high school essay, to a graduate school essay, to > an essay from the best minds at two of the best universities in the world. > > > > So: we've got a guy who is focused on turning all the energies of > the 9/11 truth movement into attacking itself and self-destructing, > and who is also, like Noam Chomsky and Greg Palast, quite upset with > mentioning Israel and the Israel lobby in relation the politics of > 9/11 and its aftermath. > > > > Again, the first word that pops to mind is COINTELPRO. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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