I just Googled "population reduction" and discovered that it is often used in the way I intended -- to reduce the current level of population by decreasing the level of births. Am I wrong? Pehaps "population control" is a better term, but that can also be read in a sinister way.
With regard to the core issue: do you think planet Earth can support 10 billion people or even the current 6.5 billion inhabitants? Not according to any trajectories on resources and pollution that I've noticed. Water resources are an especially serious problem, as are oil resources. I wonder how much carbon dioxide we would be pumping into the atmosphere if every household in the world, including China, owned two or three cars.
One could easily get the impression that the human race is a swarm of locusts,
devouring the very ground of its being.
Did you read Jared Diamond's recent book on this subject? Brilliant and stimulating stuff.
If you think the current level of population is sustainable, I'd like to know why, based on resource and pollution factors.
better_off_said <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Perhaps you should change it to read "pro population control" then,
because "population reduction" *is* a sinister notion.
The idea of population reduction is to reduce the numbers after
birth, not before (big difference). And the means by which
the "population reductionists" (yeah, yeah, made it up) hope to
accomplish this is through war, genocide, genocide disguised as war,
manufactured diseases... whatever it takes, so long as they're
spared their own agenda. No "free choice" involved there.
Sorry for sounding so naïve, but in my "value system" *that* is evil.
You're beginning to scare me, Sean...
--- In political-research@yahoogroups. , Sean McBridecom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote:
>
> Nothing sinister or evil -- just fewer children by educated free
choice. I really doubt planet Earth can support 10 billion people
living like Renaissance princes and princesses, in terms of resource
and pollution factors. Probably not even 5 billion.
> Current population is just over 6.5 billion.
>
> I'm sure that line will send Webfairy's adrenaline racing.
>
> Reverse my antis with my pros, and you'd have a fairly good
profile of the Judeo-Christian fascists who are currently attempting
to consolidate a dictatorship in the U.S.
>
>
> better_off_said <better_off_[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "pro population reduction"
>
> Care to elaborate the means by which you would like to see this
> accomplished? My *morbid* curiosity calls to me now...
>
> --- In political-research@yahoogroups. , Sean McBridecom
> <smcbride2@> wrote:
> >
> > For anyone else who would like to share, share away. It's
> interesting to get a quick overview of the values framework in
which
> we develop our analyses and express our points of view on
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> > pro power sharing
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> > pro skepticism
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> > pro social responsibility
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> > pro strategic thinking
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> > pro thinking outside the box
> > pro Thomas Jefferson
> > pro Thomas Paine
> > pro tolerance
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