Sorry Tim, seems I mixed up your mails concerning this reply. Sorry. But can you sent the link you mentioned - the interview - I'd like to listen to it.
I only know this one: http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-4395179434521008566 Good letter, by the way. -L > > A couple of associations: > > One concerns a mytube video Dann Dobson sent links to on CRTL not long > ago. Good video on the history of the "Protocols". They interviewed > Daniel Pipes, who as we know is an expert on "conspiracy thought". As > I remember his statement: If you want to convince people, he says, the > best you can do is to present it as a secret, something uncovered by > chance. What place do the Protocols have in this discussion? This is > the big problem: Selective choices. Or should I believe Berlet and > Goldberg would ever deny this was a bloody real conspiracy??? > > Two: one of the most interesting posters on CRTL reminded people of > Laurie Mylroie, and her "conspiracy theory" not long ago. Of cause we > have almost forgotten that Saddam was the ultimate Hitler, now that we > have an even better new candidate. I found it interesting that her > book was initially published in 2000, heavily backed by AEI, and > reissued in 2001. A conspiracy??? > > Three: I do not have much time to watch these matters. But not long > ago I came across an article that uncovered strange religious ties of > Jones. I think the focus was on the religious/theologian background of > some of the 911 skeptics. Which indeed brings us back to the larger > field of ethics. And I am admittedly still a bit puzzled by the > selective historical view the pope took concerning Hellenism and the > West. After all it were the Arabs who preserved Aristotle for us and > his translations probably influenced the West much more (remember who > brought us the numbers?) than the ties of the Catholic church fathers > maintained with the mythological part of Greek thought (see - Anders > Nygren, Eros and Agape, ?1930, especially the idea of the divine > "soul", that is closely related to Greek mythology). The "German" Pope > no doubt may be an important theologian, but he was always a > hardliner. That's why I am slightly puzzled by the shift in > perception. His speech in Regensburg for me was reminisent of the main > feature of the neocons an enormous Western arrogance. Not such a good > position to start a dialog. > > > Four is my favorite number, add whatever you think would fit into this > context. > > -L > > - > > > > > Interesting note: Chip Berlet has apparently promoted Robert > Goldberg and his book "Enemies Within: The Culture of Conspiracy in > Modern America": > > > > http://www.publiceye.org/antisemitism/nw_goldberg.html > > > > Berlet and Goldberg strongly give the impression that they would > like to derail any honest investigation into what really happened on > 9/11. Why are they so fearful of open discussion and debate about one > of the most momentous events in American history? What is so > objectionable about seeking truthful answers to the many unanswered > questions about 9/11? What kind of authentic historical scholar would > be not only incurious about such matters, but actively hostile to > following the evidence wherever it leads? > > > > Goldberg himself, while railing against conspiracism, seems to > have organized his mental world around the threat of a grand > conspiracy against his own interests: > > > > "According to Robert Alan Goldberg, antipathy toward Jews as a > religious and ethnic group has been a pernicious periodic theme within > European Christianity for two millennia." [From the opening sentence > of Berlet's article.] > > > > You know, these folks have tied themselves up in the most > remarkable intellectual knots. Daniel Pipes is another obsessed > opponent of conspiracism who is equally obsessed with a grand > conspiracy against Israel which includes not only all of Islam, but > any non-Muslim who doesn't hate Islam with sufficient intensity. > > > > In any case, I wonder just how spontaneous has been Robert > Goldberg's attack on Steven Jones, and what, precisely, is the full > range of his political connections and associations. > > > > What do you want to bet that Goldberg has absolutely nothing > useful to contribute to a factual and rational discussion of 9/11? > > > > > > tim_howells_1000 <timothy.howells@> wrote: > > September 17, 2006 > > Dr. Cecil O. Samuelson > > President > > Brigham Young University > > Provo, UT 84602 > > USA > > > > Open Letter > > > > Dear President Samuelson, > > > > I'm writing to you regarding your ongoing review of professor > Steven Jones, who has been placed on administrative leave. I am very > concerned that a fine scientist and human being seems to be the victim > of a serious injustice in this case. I am one of the millions of > Americans (36% according to a recent Scripps-Howard poll) who join > Professor Jones in raising the most serious questions regarding the > involvement of US Government insiders in the attacks of September 11, > 2001. > > > > A glance at professor Jones' CV will tell you that he is an > exceptionally distinguished scientist, a professional of the highest > order whose presence honors your institution. A five minute chat will > reveal him as the most reasonable, decent and kind hearted individual > imaginable. It is difficult to conceive of how a development like > this could possibly have occurred. > > > > My understanding is that the problem stems from a brief interview > with professor Jones on KUER radio. After listening to a recording of > the interview and the lengthy commentary that followed I am astounded > that the baseless accusations leveled at prof. Jones by the invited > commentators could possibly have led to such a serious move by the > University, if this is indeed the case. > > > > The deadly serious accusation of racial scapegoating and > antisemitism was made by prof. Goldberg on the basis of the flimsiest > kind of pseudo-psychological analysis. To my knowledge, Professor > Jones has never mentioned the Jewish people let alone implied that > they were responsible the attacks or for anything else. Four of the > five callers responding to the radio show rejected Goldberg's > analysis, and did so most articulately, in my opinion. Has prof. > Goldberg's absurd slander really led to such drastic action against > prof. Jones by BYU? > > > > The absurdity of the situation is highlighted by prof. Goldberg > himself. He claims that "conspiracy thinking" has "entered the > mainstream crossing all racial, class educational and religious > lines." He supports this remarkable claim by correctly pointing out > that over 75% of Americans have rejected the conclusions of the Warren > Commission, and believe that President Kennedy was the victim of a > conspiracy and a coverup. The implications are clear. If you really > intend to adhere to prof. Goldberg's standards of ideological purity, > then the Steven Jones case is barely the tip of an iceberg of titanic > proportions. You will be forced to investigate and remove the vast > majority of your administration, faculty and staff. No one's words > and actions can be taken at face value; everything will have to be > interpreted by an expert in Conspiracy Thinking such as professor > Goldberg. In all probability, you yourself will be hounded, disgraced > and ruined. > > > > Please stop this madness. Professor Steven Jones must be > completely cleared and reinstated, as a matter of simple human > decency, for the good of your university, and for the good of the country. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Tim Howells, Ph.D. (US Citizen) > > Research Scientist > > Uppsala University Hospital > > Uppsala Sweden > > > > > > cc Earl M. Woolley > > Scott Sommerfeldt > > Alan R. Parkinson > > Steven Jones > > Deseret Morning News > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political-research/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political-research/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
