sean, for all your emphasis on empiricism and evidence, here you break down and refer to "irrational messianism" as a motive, over power and money. i just dont buy into that.
----- Original Message ----- From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [political-research] Saddam Offered Exile, But Neo-Cons Unleashed Carnage Anyway Martin van Creveld in the Forward, 9/24/2007: "Israel, which Ahmadinejad regards as his country's great enemy, has just carried out what seems to be a very successful strike against an important Syrian installation. And behind Prime Minister Ehud Olmert stands President Bush - the same President Bush who four years ago needed no reason at all to take on Iran's neighbor to the west and demolish it to the point where it may never rise again." Again: "DEMOLISH IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT MAY NEVER RISE AGAIN." Very Old Testament and very neoconservative -- that's pretty much all that the Iraq War has been about (that and an opportunity for war profiteers in the military-industrial complex to loot the American Treasury). Forget any rational calculations of the overall American interest -- they weren't in play. In fact, the neocon crusade against its enemies may well destroy the United States as a superpower and a functioning democracy. Alan Greenspan and Henry Kissinger are trying to create the impression that the rational pursuit of oil has been behind the Iraq War -- they are lying on behalf of a neocon agenda that is utterly irrational. George W. Bush, like any number of Free Republic Christian Zionist crackpots, believed that he was fighting Gog and Magog in Iraq and helping to usher in a global catastrophe and the End of the World. Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yep, that nearly clinches it. the was wasnt about oil. it was about using the neocons obssessions with israel to prop up the us dollar as world reserve currency. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [political-research] Saddam Offered Exile, But Neo-Cons Unleashed Carnage Anyway http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484162 The story originates from the Daily Mail, and looks legit. bad flash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, anyone can confirm this: Saddam Offered Exile, But Neo-Cons Unleashed Carnage Anyway Filed under: 1 - webabuser @ 3:28 pm Edit This What could have been saved? A trillion dollars, a million lives, the global reputation of the U.S. - but that wasn't the plan Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet, Thursday, September 27, 2007 Neo-Cons could have saved a trillion dollars, spared over a million lives and prevented tens of thousands of dead and injured U.S. soldiers but decided to unleash carnage anyway, after it was revealed last night that Saddam Hussein offered to step down and go into exile one month before the invasion of Iraq. "Fearing defeat, Saddam was prepared to go peacefully in return for £500million ($1billion)," reports the Daily Mail. "The extraordinary offer was revealed yesterday in a transcript of talks in February 2003 between George Bush and the then Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar at the President's Texas ranch." "The White House refused to comment on the report last night. But, if verified, it is certain to raise questions in Washington and London over whether the costly four-year war could have been averted." According to the tapes, Bush told Aznar that whether Saddam was still in Iraq or not, "We'll be in Baghdad by the end of March." (Article continues below) http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/270907_offered_exile.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date: 9/27/2007 11:06 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1033 - Release Date: 9/27/2007 11:06 AM