The issue with work and wages is complicated and just because I am a socialist doesn't mean I believe in a free ride. "Each to his own needs, each to his own capabilities", in other words socialism also believes you are obliged to work for what you get. However, workers are not obliged, nor in fact should they work for slave wages that McDonalds and Wal Mart etc pay, and yes are migrants are found doing those jobs all over the world, but it is not just because the locals won't do these jobs for the pittance they are paid, it is because employers use migrant labor as they are willing to work for less therefore driving down the wages of the wider community. As I mentioned workers have been played off one against the other driving down wages on an international scale since the advent of the intergration of globalized production, accounting for the rise in company profits, CEO wages and the destruction of working conditions.
At some point you can't just accept any job. You have to say I want to be paid for what I am worth and I want a job that gives me some sort of secure future. I am not just a commodity to be hired and discarded at the employers whim. The callibre of work, education and culture have all been attacked, we are not machines, we are human beings On Sep 9, 8:46 am, SgtUSMC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can't even get what you order at McDonald's anymore because the > workers don't speak English very well. It amazing how many people > wanted those jobs a year ago and no longer want them. > > On Sep 8, 6:32 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is a wrong headed conception, it decreases living standards. The > > reason Governments are slashing wages and conditions is to be > > competitive with overseas labor, it becomes a race to the bottom for > > the wage earner while the capitalist extorts more and more from the > > worker. This is the cause of profound social inequality--not getting a > > fair day's pay for a fair days work. Workers are being held to ransom, > > this is hardly democratic, infact democracy cannot exist where there > > is immense social inequality. America was at her most potent when the > > welfare state was at its most benevolent. Happy workers are hard > > working workers, that was the essence of the New Deal. > > > On Sep 9, 8:15 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sep 8, 3:11 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > the slashing of wages and > > > > conditions and the destruction of the manufacturing sector that has > > > > moved offshore in search of cheap labor. > > > > This is something that is needed, in order to "Balance" the "earnings" > > > around the World... > > > > It was bound to happen, and is a good thing, in that it is helping > > > raise the living standards of people who desperately need it.- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
