Sign...... Capitalism works, wrapping your BS ideology with it destroys it.
On Sep 18, 12:23 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000056.html > > Now in order to fully appreciate why Capitalism is such a blessing > including being a blessing for the poor we have to understand what > poverty is. We have to have a definition of poverty. And we have to > understand what it really means to be poor in a rich country, and to > be rich in a poor one. > > We keep hearing certain professional (as in paid) complainers bleating > about how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That s just > wrong. That s demonstrably, provably false. It s a lie. > > The rich get richer, and the poor get richer too. At least here they > do. > > American poverty is defined by a certain income. These people are poor > by definition. I m not trying to be sarcastic, and I m not trying to > minimize the pain of it I m just stating a fact. > > Now, what does it mean when we learn that the poorest Americans have > incomes higher than 90-some percent of the rest of the world? What > does that mean? > > Poor people in America have electrically powered homes. They have the > same clean running water the rest of the city residents have. Almost > all have telephones and television. Many have a third-hand piece of > crap automobile like my last three cars. (My current ride has had one > previous owner and 12,000 miles and it feels new. I ve never owned a > new car.) > > Does it suck to be poor in America? It depends on who you talk to. If > you spend your life calculating what Bill Gates makes while you were > sleeping, chances are you ll be pretty ornery. But if you look out > into the rest of the world, and even a few decades back into history > American history, a rich country s history -- then you just might > begin to realize that you, a poor American, are living better than > just about any other humans in history, and I am including the richest > people of just sixty or seventy years ago a single human lifespan > for a poor American. A hundred years ago, if the Crown Prince caught > the flu, that richest, most powerful person on the earth, likely as > not, died. At this hour, at this instant, people of all incomes are > being saved from certain death in clinics and hospitals by treatments > unimaginable a few short decades ago. > > Some facts are undeniable that s why we call them facts. Lifespan > and infant mortality are scientific data sets that pay no attention to > ideology. The first has been rising, the other dropping, all across > the globe, and doing so spectacularly where capitalism has taken hold. > Rich capitalist countries - the ones with those evil kkkorporations > -- are also far cleaner Greener, you might say than poor, > socialist ones. That s got to stick a little, thinking about that up > there in that tree night after night, for years. > > Where monumentally thick governments, like that of China, are finally > forced to get out of the way and let people work to improve their own > lives - we call this process making money -- the results are simply > dumbfounding, given the amount of poverty that has been foisted on > that industrious nation for a few millennia of raw tyranny. Ask your > solid, upper-middle-class in Egypt, or Vietnam, or Belarus, if they d > like to get a chance to start a new life as a poor American. Then get > the hell out of their way, if you don t feel like tasting the > sidewalk. > > One of the few places where longevity is falling drastically is in the > ruin of Russia and her poor, literate, long-suffering people. > Communism is still killing those poor bastards. It s like a disease > that stalks you even after it s been eradicated. > > What a filthy legacy. > > On Sep 17, 9:18 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Sounds great, but then I remember what this capitalist > > nation did the things that were done to the less desirables. > > > The polio blankets to the Native Americans. > > > The millions of Africans brought to America as slaves. > > > The 100,000's of Chinese killed building the railroads. > > > The exploitation of all nationalities deemed to be inferior. > > > People wrote eloquent articles explaining the justification > > of these things also. This is just another example of > > this same BS, > > > It does say a lot about you however. Confirms most of what I believe > > about you, > > > On Sep 18, 12:08 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000056.html > > > > That capitalism generates wealth is beyond debate. This capitalist > > > reactor of ours easily invents more, learns more, and produces more > > > benefits in a year than mankind did under a millennia of rule by Kings > > > and Barons and Caliphs and Emperors. It s just amazing what people can > > > do when you just get the hell out of their way. > > > > As an economic system for increasing prosperity, you just can t beat > > > it. And those who despise capitalism can t argue with this they just > > > can t. What they can do, perpetually and loudly, is talk about how > > > unfair Capitalism is. Because it allows the hard-working and ambitious > > > to keep the rewards of their hard work and ambition, Capitalism does > > > indeed produce some pretty uneven results. > > > > But does uneven mean unfair? Depends on how you measure fair. > > > > Now far be it for me to split linguistic hairs and argue over what the > > > definition of is is. But if we re going to get to the heart of this > > > unfair business, we have to ask ourselves, unfair to whom? Because if > > > we are to talk intelligently about this, we re going to have to > > > understand something right out of the gate: life is unfair. If life > > > were fair, we d all be the same same intelligence, same drive, same > > > capabilities. But we re not. It is a hallmark of our species that we > > > vary wildly in these and many other categories. That s what makes us > > > so diverse, and we sure want to celebrate that, don t we? > > > > So, when we talk about making things fair, making them equal, we find > > > ourselves in the same impossible conundrum as we do when we discuss > > > The Irresistible Force meeting The Immovable Object. > > > > Cool! Which would win? > > > > Neither. It s an oxymoron. The definition of Irresistible Force means > > > that there cannot be an Immovable Object, and vice versa. You have to > > > pick one or the other. They are mutually exclusive. > > > > Likewise, when we try to measure fair and equal, we have to face the > > > hard reality that people are different. So, do we want to measure an > > > equal front end: equality of opportunity or an equal back end: > > > equality of results? Can t have both. > > > > Here s why: > > > > When the Declaration of Independence thundered that All Men are > > > Created Equal, it meant equal in those essential elements: equal under > > > the law. Equal in terms of basic human rights. Equal in dignity. Equal > > > in the sense that if someone with a lot of money thinks they can cut > > > in front of me at an ATM line just because they re rich, then they can > > > just kiss my Royal Irish Ass! that kind of equal. > > > > But to believe that all people are equally capable is to well not be > > > paying attention, as a quick game of one-on-one half-court between > > > Michael Jordan and Michael Moore will quickly reveal. (note to Don > > > King: There are millions, and I mean millions to be made off this > > > idea. Call me.) > > > > There will always be people smarter than you, and people more stupid; > > > people more and less motivated, ruthless, connected, ambitious, > > > frugal, hardworking than you are. Nothing can change that. Nothing > > > should change that because there lies the Gulag. People are > > > different. Leave them alone. Encourage the downhearted, by all means. > > > Help those in need when they ask for help. But otherwise mind your own > > > business, bub. > > > > Society is as fair as it can get when all people have equal > > > opportunity to make what they will of themselves. We are not there > > > yet. We are close. We are much, much closer than many would have us > > > believe. > > > > But people are different. They will always be different. They will > > > succeed and fail differently. There s no two ways around it. > > > > Like so many flawed ideas beloved by the far left, equality seems like > > > a noble enough goal. Until you think about it. People have different > > > capabilities. So do you want equality of opportunity as I do where > > > people can make of themselves what they will? Or do you want equality > > > of results, where society steps in to make sure that everyone comes > > > out the same? > > > > If society had a magical way of raising the bottom up, of speeding up, > > > buffing up, and tidying up Michael Moore, thereby giving him the means > > > to beat Michael Jordan in our (sadly) mythical game of half-court, > > > well we d all be the winners and life would be just dandy. But, alas, > > > this wonderful, brilliant idea is marred only by the annoying fact > > > that it is demonstrably impossible. Michael Moore can never play as > > > well as Michael Jordan. Never. If you want that game to come out a tie > > > equal! then you are going to have to hobble Michael Jordon. > > > > You re going to have to remove a foot or two from his femurs, stitch > > > him into a clumsy, bulky, ugly suit adding a few hundred pounds, > > > heavily sedate him to slow down his mental powers, fill him full of > > > cheap booze to degrade his aim and coordination oh, and really mess > > > up his face surgically. No fair if people are rooting for him > > > disproportionately! That might hurt Michael Moore s self-esteem and > > > limit his ability to compete. > > > > Do all these things, and more, and you will have two equal players. > > > You will have a really stupid, incompetent, pointless game. You will > > > have removed all the grace, power, style, finesse and genius from a > > > gifted and noble man, and added nothing whatsoever > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
