Gaar, Well fuck, I'd be Ok with one billion $. Sheeeet, what is that, about 1/7 of 1% of the total $700 billion? What the fuck, call it a couple of billion.
On Sep 24, 9:12 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many Billion worth is ok with you holly? > > On Sep 24, 7:10 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Travis, > > > I'm sure as fuck willing to bet it wasn't $700 billion worth. How > > about you? > > > On Sep 24, 7:16 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: *Travis* > > > Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2008 > > > Subject: How Many Subprime Mortgages Were Awarded to Illegal Aliens? > > > > <http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/> > > > > September 23, 2008 > > > Exclusive: How Many Subprime Mortgages Were Awarded to Illegal > > > Aliens?<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1247/pub_detail.asp> > > > > Michael > > > Cutler<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/authors/id.29/author_detail.asp> > > > > This short news report <http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=954358> might have > > > been a bit longer if it had been written a couple of weeks later than it > > > was. This story is dated September 5th and deals with one of the key > > > issues > > > about immigration that virtually no one is willing to talk about - > > > especially politicians and others who subscribe to the open borders > > > philosophy and to the idea of providing the millions of illegal aliens who > > > are in our country with a Guest Worker Amnesty Program and a "Pathway to > > > United States Citizenship." It deals with illegal aliens using stolen > > > Social > > > Security numbers and false immigration documents to apply for a home loan. > > > > The challenges confronting our nation in dealing with the millions of > > > illegal aliens who are in our country are numerous and significant. In my > > > opinion, the most daunting challenge, and one that is fraught with > > > national > > > security implications, deals with accurately identifying millions of > > > illegal > > > aliens who have no reliable way of proving their identities. Our officials > > > cannot be certain as to the true names of these millions of people. There > > > is > > > no way of determining their true nationality. There is no way of knowing > > > when, where or how they entered the United States. Therefore, there is no > > > way of truly knowing if they are wanted for crimes in other countries. > > > There > > > is also no way of determining if they are affiliated with criminal or > > > terrorist organizations. > > > > Absent all of the information I noted above, there is absolutely no way of > > > knowing with any certainty, the intentions of these millions of aliens who > > > have shown utter contempt for our nation's borders and our nation's laws. > > > > Certainly the majority of illegal aliens are desperate people. They are > > > not > > > able to live decent lives in their own countries and consequently they are > > > willing to take incredible risks to enter our country and take jobs > > > Americans would be happy to do for living wages under reasonable > > > conditions. > > > > The problem is that there is no way of separating the illegal alien who is > > > simply seeking illegal employment and the alien whose goal is far more > > > nefarious. And regardless of their goals, neither of them should be here > > > in > > > the first place. > > > > Hope is* not* a strategy. Hoping that the illegal alien who appears to > > > simply be determined to get a job and send money home is no guarantee that > > > he is not involved in a more sinister plan. Many years ago, in the early > > > 1980s, I was involved in a raid conducted at a diner in Staten Island, New > > > York. We arrested nine illegal aliens from various countries, including > > > several from Latin America. Among them was a couple from Greece (they had > > > worked on a ship and jumped ship upon arrival in New York). One alien, a > > > citizen of Egypt who had been employed as a dishwasher, attempted to > > > escape > > > arrest by running through the parking lot at the rear of the diner. He ran > > > across the roofs of cars and it took a major effort to finally arrest him. > > > When we were finally able to corral him and place him in handcuffs he > > > agreed > > > to allow us to take him to his apartment to get his passport. The passport > > > was important to properly identify him and to facilitate his deportation > > > from the United States. > > > > When my partner and I entered his apartment (located a short distance from > > > the diner), we found about a half dozen large shopping bags filled to the > > > brim with coupons for various items we were certain he had no use for. > > > Among > > > the products for which he had coupons were diapers, dog food and women's > > > sanitary products. He was a single man with no wife or girl friend, no > > > kids > > > and no pets. > > > > He also had no explanation for the coupons except to lamely claim that > > > kids > > > in the neighborhood "played with the coupons." When we asked him which > > > kids > > > and how they might play with them, he shrugged his shoulders and refused > > > to > > > discuss the coupons. > > > > He was ultimately deported and then, several months afterwards I watched a > > > televised news report about how terrorists from the Middle East had been > > > coming to the United States to engage in coupon fraud to fund terrorist > > > attacks around the world! The "dishwasher" we had arrested was obviously > > > one > > > of them. I have often wondered where he is now and what role he might have > > > played in the terrorist attacks I have read about, including the first > > > attack on the World Trade Center on February 26, 1993 and the attacks of > > > September 11, 2001. > > > > The story that prompted this commentary demonstrates that illegal aliens > > > may > > > also be involved in criminal activities that can literally reverberate > > > through our nation. While the news article provides the names of the > > > couple > > > that was arrested, I wonder what their true names and nationalities might > > > be. This is why when police arrest a suspect they fingerprint him (her) > > > because bad guys use changes of identity the way that a chameleon uses > > > changes in coloration, to hide in plain sight among his intended victims! > > > > Identity theft has been defined as being the "fastest growing white collar > > > crime in America." It is my belief that illegal aliens contribute greatly > > > to > > > this epidemic that can make the honest person whose identity is stolen > > > miserable. > > > > I suggest you ask yourself how many of the sub-prime mortgages that have > > > contributed greatly to the financial crisis that threatens our country may > > > have been awarded to illegal aliens who committed identity theft as did > > > the > > > couple who were arrested. > > > > In the name of national security, citizens of the United States are > > > finding > > > it increasingly difficult to obtain driver's licenses and other identity > > > documents. While this inconvenience is unfortunate, I believe that these > > > measures are necessary, especially in this perilous era. The point is that > > > the continuing entry and presence of illegal aliens in our country whose > > > identities are unknown and unknowable represent a threat to national > > > security and to the safety of our citizens. That is why I wrote a > > > commentary<http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/jun/22/immigration-bill-a-no-go>for > > > the > > > *Washington Times* last year as the Senate took up the issue of > > > "Comprehensive Immigration Reform," in which I appropriately renamed that > > > fatally-flawed legislation the "Terrorist Assistance and Facilitation Act > > > of > > > 2007." > > > > Any sort of wide-spread legalization process for those millions of illegal > > > aliens would simply provide terrorists and criminals with an opportunity > > > to > > > create false identities for themselves and would simply create the > > > illusion > > > of security. What's worse than no security? False security. 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