Or Noriega? On Oct 11, 5:31�am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The USA execution of Saddam andf his sons is a sorry note on our > history.What happened to exile for our once favorite tyrants? Farouk- > British, etc. Welcome to Bonnie and Beatty. > > On Oct 11, 3:47 am, "[ a patriotic Republican �]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Revealed: "Secret" Executions Being Carried Out in Saddam's Old > > Intelligence Headquartershttp://www.alternet.org/rights/101952/ > > Hundreds of "insurgents" have been executed since 2003, victims of the > > same summary justice they mete out to their own > > captives. > > Like all wars, the dark, untold stories of the Iraqi conflict drain > > from its shattered landscape like the filthy waters of the Tigris. And > > still the revelations come. > > > The Independent has learned that secret executions are being carried > > out in the prisons run by Nouri al-Maliki's "democratic" government. > > > The hangings are carried out regularly -- from a wooden gallows in a > > small, cramped cell -- in Saddam Hussein's old intelligence > > headquarters at Kazimiyah. There is no public record of these killings > > in what is now called Baghdad's "high-security detention facility" but > > most of the victims -- there have been hundreds since America > > introduced "democracy" to Iraq -- are said to be insurgents, given the > > same summary justice they mete out to their own captives. > > > The secrets of Iraq's death chambers lie mostly hidden from foreign > > eyes but a few brave Western souls have come forward to tell of this > > prison horror. The accounts provide only a glimpse into the Iraqi > > story, at times tantalizingly cut short, at others gloomily > > predictable. Those who tell it are as depressed as they are filled > > with hopelessness. > > > "Most of the executions are of supposed insurgents of one kind or > > another," a Westerner who has seen the execution chamber at Kazimiyah > > told me. "But hanging isn't easy." As always, the devil is in the > > detail. > > > "There's a cell with a bar below the ceiling with a rope over it and a > > bench on which the victim stands with his hands tied," a former > > British official, told me last week. "I've been in the cell, though it > > was always empty. But not long before I visited, they'd taken this guy > > there to hang him. They made him stand on the bench, put the rope > > round his neck and pushed him off. But he jumped on to the floor. He > > could stand up. So they shortened the length of the rope and got him > > back on the bench and pushed him off again. It didn't work." > > > There's nothing new in savage executions in the Middle East -- in the > > Lebanese city of Sidon 10 years ago, a policeman had to hang on to the > > legs of a condemned man to throttle him after he failed to die on the > > noose -- but in Baghdad, cruel death seems a specialty. > > > "They started digging into the floor beneath the bench so that the guy > > would drop far enough to snap his neck," the official said. "They dug > > up the tiles and the cement underneath. But that didn't work. He could > > still stand up when they pushed him off the bench. So they just took > > him to a corner of the cell and shot him in the head." > > > The condemned prisoners in Kazimiyah, a Shia district of Baghdad, are > > said to include rapists and murderers as well as insurgents. One > > prisoner, a Chechen, managed to escape from the jail with another man > > after a gun was smuggled to them. They shot two guards dead. The > > authorities had to call in the Americans to help them recapture the > > two. The Americans killed one and shot the Chechen in the leg. He > > refused medical assistance so his wound went gangrenous. In the end, > > the Iraqis had to operate and took all the bones out of his leg. By > > the time he met one Western visitor to the prison, "he was walking > > around on crutches with his boneless right leg slung over his > > shoulder." > > > In many cases, it seems, the Iraqis neither keep nor release any > > record of the true names of their captives or of the hanged prisoners. > > For years the Americans -- in charge of the notorious Abu Ghraib > > prison outside Baghdad -- did not know the identity of their > > prisoners. Here, for example, is new testimony given to The > > Independent by a former Western official to the Anglo-U.S. Iraq Survey > > Group, which searched for the infamous but mythical weapons of mass > > destruction: "We would go to the interrogation rooms at Abu Ghraib and > > ask for a particular prisoner. After about 40 minutes, the Americans > > brought in this hooded guy, shuffling along, shackled hands and feet. > > > "They sat him on a chair in front of us and took off his hood. He had > > a big beard. We asked where he received his education. He repeatedly > > said 'Mosul.' Then he said he'd left school at 14 -- remember, this > > guy is supposed to be a missile scientist. We said: 'We know you've > > got a PhD and went to the Sorbonne -- we'd like you to help us with > > information about Saddam's missile project.' But I said to myself: > > 'This guy doesn't know anything 'bout fucking missiles.' Then it > > turned out he had a different name from the man we'd asked for, he'd > > been picked up on the road by the Americans four months earlier, he > > didn't know why. So we said to the Americans: 'Wrong gentleman!' So > > they put the shackles on him and took him back to his cell and after > > 20 or 30 minutes, they'd bring someone else. We'd ask him where he > > went to school and he told us he had never been to school. > > > 12Next page- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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