It aint "a few people", they're being investigate across the country.

Grab a paper, have someone read it to you, let me know what you find.

Are we square?

On Oct 14, 4:45 am, "[ the last  patriotic Republican  ]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bull shit a few of the people who worked for ACORN decided to take the
> easy way out and faked some forms so they wouldn't have to work . to
> condemn ACORN for a few bad employees is ludicrous ! the Republican
> party is trying to use this minor incident to disenfranchise thousands
> of voters whose only crime was they didn't register as republicans !
>
> On Oct 13, 2:34 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hollywood,
>
> > Did you read this article?
>
> >http://www.eppc.org/publications/pubID.3566/pub_detail.asp
>
> > This article was cited in at least two threads a few days back. I'm no
> > economic genius, so have been researching the past few weeks in an
> > attempt to understand what really has happened. I read this article
> > and found it to be high level enough to make sense of, but I also
> > wondered how accurate it was. I assumed that Democrats and Obama
> > supporters on this board would respond, countering the charges, but I
> > never really saw that happen. So my question is; what's not correct,
> > or what is being left off in this article?
>
> > As for the article Mike posted above;
>
> > Do you consider bogus sarcasm an untruth? The article tries to portray
> > "poor black people" as the force behind the collapse, then questions
> > how this powerless bloc of people, one step removed from slavery, can
> > turn global economics on its ear. However, it wasn't poor black
> > people, but organizations like ACORN and high powered lobbyists who
> > helped push legislation that made it possible for poor people (black,
> > white and everything in between) to get loans they should never have
> > qualified for. And quite honestly, this is an extremely racist article
> > that is trying to promote a black vs white issue when that has
> > absolutely nothing to do with it. Unqualified, sub-prime loans did not
> > just go out to blacks.
>
> > The article is also rather sarcastic about ACORN and voter fraud,
> > except now we have Congressional testimony that sure does seem to
> > prove that ACORN is involved in fraudulent voter registration.
> > Attempts at dismissing this as something Republicans have done for
> > years is disingenuous. If it's illegal, immoral and jeopardizes the
> > legitimacy of the election process it needs to be rejected by all of
> > us. This should not be turned into party politics, regardless of who
> > is at fault.
>
> > The final two paragraphs alone disqualify the article as nothing more
> > than a racial hack. Obama has historical ties to ACORN. That's a fact.
> > Whether that should be an issue for this election is for the public to
> > decide. But to use racism and sarcasm to try to dismiss the issue
> > entirely, and then go so far as to call it a McCain dirty trick is
> > ludicrous.
>
> > On Oct 13, 9:19 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > mark,
>
> > > Feel free to point out the untruths or inaccuracies in mike's post. Do
> > > ahead, no one stopping you.
>
> > > On Oct 13, 5:44 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > this article is so full of shit, no womder ,murky buys into it.  even
> > > > the liberal msm has finally accepted the fact that nobama has been
> > > > lying about his ties to acorn.
>
> > > > On Oct 13, 4:16 am, "[ the last  patriotic Republican  ]"
>
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > McCain-Palin Lies
> > > > > By Lloyd Hart
>
> > > > > You may have noticed over the last week the word acorn or to be more
> > > > > exact A.C.O.R.N. which stands for the Association of Community
> > > > >ticle is so full of shit Organizations for Reform Now. I personally 
> > > > >have known about this group
> > > > > for many years and nearly fell off my couch when I began to hear the
> > > > > accusations coming out of the McCain campaign that poor black people
> > > > > (A.C.O.R.N.) held a gun to Congress's head (cause black people, you
> > > > > know, they can get guns. (wink) ) and forced it to pass a law that
> > > > > forced rich white guys to stop redlining minority neighborhoods and to
> > > > > stop predatory lending practices in minority neighborhoods - a
> > > > > deliberate practice of banks not providing equal access to credit
> > > > > products like loans and mortgages at the same fare market value in
> > > > > terms of interest rates that the white folks recieved who were forced
> > > > > into the terrible exodus of white flight when they had to relocate to
> > > > > the suburbs when they were afraid their children might have sex with
> > > > > black folks if they lived next door to them and you know (wink)
> > > > > listened to their jazz music and smoked their marijuana.
>
> > > > > Help! Poor black people are are causing the total collapse of the
> > > > > Global Economy!
>
> > > > > So, according to Senator John McCain and other Republicans, A.C.O.R.N.
> > > > > ruthlessly lobbied Congress to stop banks from redlining minority
> > > > > communities which somehow caused Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy bad
> > > > > loans from mortgage companies and banks who saw the future and were
> > > > > desperate to get rid of properties that would no longer be profitable
> > > > > once foreclosed on and because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bought all
> > > > > those bad loans (and have an automatic government rescue program to
> > > > > their charters), that that somehow linked poor black people
> > > > > (A.C.O.R.N.) to the bringing down of Wall Street investment giants
> > > > > like
> > > > > Bear Stearns, A.I.G. and Lehman Brothers which then led to the total
> > > > > collapse of the global banking system and the single largest one week
> > > > > drop in the Dow Jones Industrial average in history? Wow, poor black
> > > > > people sure have come a long way since the time of slavery, to be able
> > > > > to do that. Now that's something.
>
> > > > > So Senator John McCain starts slamming A.C.O.R.N. for causing all the
> > > > > financial trouble at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, then news reports
> > > > > began to role in that Vegas police had raided an A.C.O.R.N. office
> > > > > this
> > > > > week looking for evidence of fraudulent voter registration practices.
> > > > > Then there was another report on Friday from Indiana of a bunch of
> > > > > voter registration cards were filled out in the same hand writing. It
> > > > > was then that my intestines began to twist up in a knock which made it
> > > > > impossible for me to sleep.
>
> > > > > You see, what was happening to me was that I was beginning to
> > > > > transcend
> > > > > what the Jim Crow politicians inside the Republican Party were
> > > > > attempting to do. They were attempting to accuse poor black people of
> > > > > doing exactly what the Republican Party has been doing for years since
> > > > > it was taken over by the crazy crackers from the Jim Crow South who
> > > > > found themselves completely at home with the rich white guys from the
> > > > > north who had sold out reconstruction to segregation and Jim Crow ten
> > > > > years or so after the Civil War when Congress passed the Posse
> > > > > Comitatus Act which removed federal troops from the streets within the
> > > > > defeated Southern states allowing the Klu Klux Klan to undo
> > > > > reconstruction and institute the corrupt and murderous practices of
> > > > > segregation and Jim Crow which deliberately and systematically took
> > > > > away the right to vote and the right to economic justice of black
> > > > > folks
> > > > > living in the affected communities.
>
> > > > > So it was nearly brain aneurysm material when I read what Florida
> > > > > Republican Congressman Tom Feeney had said the following on Friday:
>
> > > > > "This is destructive to democracy," he told Fox News Friday. "I
> > > > > believe
> > > > > Acorn has violated more Americans' civil rights to have their vote
> > > > > counted than any group since the KKK. It's an outrage."
>
> > > > > Along with other Republicans McCain, Feeney, and the party's talking
> > > > > heads all of a sudden started talking about A.C.O.R.N. at exactly the
> > > > > same time A.C.O.R.N. is raided in Vegas and the Indiana voter
> > > > > registration cards are suspect. It's as if they all recieved the same
> > > > > briefing memo from a single source.
>
> > > > > Now, A.C.O.R.N. has had it's own issues like the brother of it's
> > > > > founder has been accused of embezzling a million dollars from the
> > > > > organization which is what this grouphttp://rottenacorn.com/is
> > > > > attempting to paint the entire organization with. But the accusation
> > > > > is, that someone did something bad to A.C.O.R.N. not A.C.O.R.N. doing
> > > > > something bad to voters and besides that, the beneficial work that
> > > > > A.C.O.R.N. does at the community level far out weighs anything bad a
> > > > > couple of bad apples may have done or could do. Go to a black or
> > > > > minority community and ask folks about A.C.O.R.N.. You'll find what I
> > > > > found , a well like community organizationhttp://www.acorn.org/. As
> > > > > for the accusations of voter fraud absolutely nothing has been proven
> > > > > and the evidence that has surfaced in Indiana looks as though it was
> > > > > somebody taking advantage of a policy within A.C.O.R.N. itself of
> > > > > paying voter registration activists for every registration card handed
> > > > > in. A common practice and ocurrance in all parties running for office
> > > > > in the U.S..
>
> > > > > In reality, it looks to me as though someone is attempting to get news
> > > > > stories of accusations to rise in the mainstream media perfectly timed
> > > > > for registration deadlines just weeks before the presidential and
> > > > > general election that would then justify in the Republican party's and
> > > > > now Senator John McCain's practice of voter caging where Republican
> > > > > party operatives have black voters pulled from the voting lines and
> > > > > then directly challenge their right to vote. This practice was used in
> > > > > 2004 presidential and of course can be attributed to an- Hide quoted 
> > > > > text -
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