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Foreign powers steal data on critical U.S. infrastructure, NSA chief says




“I fully expect that during my time as a commander, we are going to be
tasked with defending critical infrastructure in the United States,” Adm.
Michael S. Rogers, head of the NSA, said. This photo was taken in October.
(Michael Holahan/AUGUSTA CHRONICLE VIA AP)

By Ellen Nakashima
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/ellen-nakashima> November
20 at 8:28 PM

Several foreign countries, including China, have infiltrated the computers
of critical industries in the United States to steal information that could
be used in the planning of a destructive attack, the director of the
National Security Agency said Thursday.

That was one of the cyberthreats outlined at a congressional hearing by
Adm. Michael S. Rogers, who also said he expects that criminal gangs may
become proxies for nations carrying out attacks on other nations.

“There are multiple nation-states that have the capability and have been on
the [industrial] systems,” he said before the House Intelligence Committee.

“We see them attempting to do reconnaissance on our systems” to steal
“specific schematics of most of our control systems” down to the
engineering details, said Rogers, who also heads U.S. Cyber Command, the
Pentagon’s cyberoffensive unit.

In the past, U.S. intelligence officials warned that the Chinese had
penetrated the electric grid. Now, Rogers has confirmed that “there’s
probably one or two others” that have also wormed their way in.

China and “one or two” other countries are capable of mounting cyberattacks
that would shut down the electric grid and other critical systems in parts
of the United States, according to Adm. Michael S. Rogers, director of the
National Security Agency. (AP)

“There shouldn’t be any doubt in our minds that there are nation-states and
groups out there that have the capability . . . to shut down, forestall our
ability to operate our basic infrastructure, whether it’s generating power
across this nation, whether it’s moving water and fuel,” he said. “Those
tend to be the biggest focus areas that we have seen.”

A recent report by Mandiant
<https://dl.mandiant.com/EE/library/WP_M-Trends2014_140409.pdf>, a security
company, stated that Chinese government hackers have stolen data relating
to manufacturing processes from a maker of power systems. Other security
researchers say they have found evidence of the Russian government
targeting U.S. industrial control systems.

Rogers, who in April became the head of the NSA and of Cyber Command, said
that foreign criminal gangs have traditionally hacked into U.S. commercial
systems to steal information, such as credit card numbers, that they could
sell to generate revenue. He forecast that, in the coming year, “you will
start to see . . . in many instances some of those criminal gangs not
engaging just in the theft of information . . . but also potentially as a
surrogate for other groups, other nations” that want to “obscure their
fingerprints.”

The gangs, most of which are Russian-speaking, have begun in some cases to
use the tools developed by nation-states. “That’s a troubling development
for us,” he said.

“Cyber hit men for hire,” quipped Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the committee
chairman.

The Cyber Command head said he agreed with a recent Pew Research Center
report
<http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/10/29/cyber-attacks-likely-to-increase/>
that found a majority of cyberexperts predicted a catastrophic attack
within the United States by 2025. “I fully expect that during my time as a
commander, we are going to be tasked with defending critical infrastructure
in the United States,” he said. “It’s only a matter of the when, not the
if, that we’re going to see something dramatic. . . . I bet it happens
before 2025.”

Over the past year and a half, the NSA has been the focus of intense
controversy over revelations that it has been collecting in bulk the
phone-call data — not the content — of millions of Americans. Concerns
about overreach in the surveillance area have bled into the cybersecurity
realm.

Rogers said that in cybersecurity, the NSA wants technical data, such as
malware signatures, and not personal identifying information. “I don’t want
people’s personal data,” he said. “Names, addresses — that’s none of the
kind of thing we’re talking about.”

Gathering such data, he said, “will slow us down” because of rules
regarding the protection of U.S. citizens’ information.

Legislation to encourage the sharing of cyberthreat data between the
private sector and the government has stalled in part because of concerns
that the NSA will obtain Americans’ personal data.

Rogers also said the NSA is not monitoring private-sector networks. “You
don’t want NSA in the private-sector network,” he said. “I’m not in the
private-sector network.”

The NSA, however, does help companies that seek its assistance during a
breach.

In the area of surveillance, Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) pressed Rogers
as to why the NSA could not stop collecting the phone data in bulk and
instead seek it on a case-by-case basis when it has identified a suspected
terrorist’s number. On Tuesday, the Senate failed to advance a bill aimed
at achieving that.

Rogers did not answer the question directly, instead referring to a January
speech in which President Obama directed the government to continue the
program while Congress enacts changes.

In response to a question from Schiff, Rogers said the NSA has not begun to
work with the phone companies on a transition away from the NSA storing the
data “in no small part because the corporate sector has indicated to us
they’d rather wait for . . . the specific requirements.”




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