Eat shit and die asshole. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:35 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> go fuck your zionist masters, bitch. > > On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 10:15:41 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Bite me you towel headed Jihadist! >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:07 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful smear and >>> Anti-American rhetoric...... >>> --- >>> suck on it, zionist pig. >>> >>> On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> You should read the article Brine, it might surprise you. The article >>>> is well written. >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, I resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful >>>> smear and Anti-American rhetoric...... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The title negates it: >>>>> Guns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill PeopleA blanket attack on >>>>> "liberals" is never a good way to get your point across!!! >>>>> >>>>> I do believe that sick people kill and that a responsible person >>>>> should be allowed to own a gun, that's where background checks come in!!! >>>>> We need better mental health screening, not bans on guns!!! >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I thought this was an excellent column, and worth the read. Dunkin >>>>>> is "Spot On' here, although I am quite sure there will be some >>>>>> Progressives >>>>>> who will disagree with him: >>>>>> >>>>>> You think individual left-wing fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? >>>>>> Just wait until left-wing government gets into power without a citizenry >>>>>> that is broadly and heavily armedGuns Don’t Kill People—Liberals >>>>>> Kill People >>>>>> [image: Author] >>>>>> By Tim Dunkin -- Bio and Archives >>>>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/75831/TimDunkin/467> >>>>>> *October >>>>>> 6, 2015* >>>>>> 86 Comments >>>>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article-disqus/75831> | Print >>>>>> friendly <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/75831> >>>>>> | Subscribe <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/About-us/> | Email >>>>>> Us >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> By now the reader is well aware of the recent school shooting that >>>>>> took place at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon. Another mass >>>>>> shooting, another excuse for the left-wing vultures to prey on the >>>>>> carcasses of the dead. Another opportunity for Pres__ent Obama to >>>>>> grandstand and huff and sigh and affect an air of righteous indignation. >>>>>> Another occasion for left-wingers to roll their eyes and complain about >>>>>> how, even after this shooting, those dastardly right-wingers still won’t >>>>>> support “common sense gun laws.” >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason we don’t, of course, is because the left-wingers are still >>>>>> making the same old, nonsensical, discredited arguments that they always >>>>>> do. As always, the ideas they’re floating *yet again* would do >>>>>> nothing to stop a mass shooting such as occurred at UCC. They propose >>>>>> universal background checks after a case in which the shooter passed the >>>>>> stringent background checks that Oregon already imposes. They want to ban >>>>>> “assault rifles” and “high-capacity magazines” in response to a shooting >>>>>> spree which involved neither. They have literally no new ideas for >>>>>> dealing >>>>>> with these mass shootings, so it’s not surprising that normal people will >>>>>> continue to reject their “solutions.” Essentially, the left-wing solution >>>>>> is to punish millions of people who didn’t commit a crime. >>>>>> >>>>>> But what we need to understand is that those on the Left *cannot* really >>>>>> bring themselves to deal with these shootings in a rational manner, nor >>>>>> can >>>>>> they really produce reasonable plans for preventing them in the future, >>>>>> simply because the policies and predilections of the*liberals >>>>>> themselves* are ultimately root causes of these mass shootings. >>>>>> >>>>>> First and most obvious is the phenomenon of “gun free zones.” >>>>>> Liberals love them. So do mass shooters. Whenever you hear about a mass >>>>>> shooting, before you learn anything else about the situation, you can be >>>>>> guaranteed that the venue where it took place was a gun-free zone. You >>>>>> don’t see mass shootings at gun stores or shooting ranges for the same >>>>>> reason you don’t see doughnut shops setting up franchises inside a Gold’s >>>>>> Gym. The whole environment would render the attempt completely futile. So >>>>>> instead of choosing a tougher nut to crack, people like Chris >>>>>> Harper-Mercer >>>>>> and James Holmes choose places that they can be reasonably certain no one >>>>>> will be likely to shoot back. >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem, of course, is that this isn’t just a theoretical >>>>>> argument that has no real-world ramifications. People get killed in >>>>>> gun-free zones. And the left-wingers who put those zones into place are >>>>>> directly responsible for the taking of those innocent lives. They enable >>>>>> people like Harper-Mercer to have a target-rich environment. They disable >>>>>> good people from being able to defend themselves and other innocents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Further, the left-wingers have succeeded in inculcating a lot of >>>>>> folks with the attitude of, “I shouldn’t defend myself, I should just >>>>>> wait >>>>>> for the police to show up.” Let’s remember, though, that even the fastest >>>>>> police response is far slower than a pull of the trigger finger. As >>>>>> Umpqua >>>>>> was the latest to show, a psycho can shoot dozens before the police get >>>>>> there. Gun-free zones only serve to reinforce this sort of >>>>>> counter-productive and dangerous attitude because they instill the false >>>>>> hope that should something happen, the police will be there to do more >>>>>> than >>>>>> just clean up the mess and take statements from the survivors. In most >>>>>> cases, however, they will not, which means that for those present with >>>>>> the >>>>>> shooter, there is no credible means of defending themselves *in situ* >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> One argument for more gun control that the lefties will make is that >>>>>> we need to keep the guns out of the hands of the crazy people. In >>>>>> principle >>>>>> I agree—we *should *keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. But >>>>>> the problem is that the Left has made it so difficult to identify and >>>>>> interdict crazy people before they go off the deep end and actually do >>>>>> something crazy, that it is practically impossible to prevent the crazies >>>>>> from doing crazy things. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beginning in the 1960s, the Left made a “cause” out of >>>>>> “destigmatizing” mental illness. As a result of this, many >>>>>> institutions—which used to be known by the gauche and un-politically >>>>>> correct name of “insane asylums”—gradually began shuffling their inmates >>>>>> out the door. One effect of this was to vastly increase the number of >>>>>> mentally ill individuals living on the streets, or ending up in prison. >>>>>> Another long-term effect of this left wing-driven movement against >>>>>> institutionalization was to replace genuine care with medication. And >>>>>> this >>>>>> is another commonality between all of these mass shootings—each of the >>>>>> shooters was a young male who was taking, or had taken, one or more >>>>>> behavior-altering psychotropic drug. Instead of investigating and dealing >>>>>> with those who begin to show genuine signs of mental illness, the easy >>>>>> and >>>>>> politically correct route is simply to “give ‘em meds.” These meds, in >>>>>> turn, also carry with them side effects such as depression, anxiety, >>>>>> paranoia, and others. Even otherwise healthy young men are given Ritalin, >>>>>> Prozac, and other drugs in school under the guise of treating their >>>>>> “ADHD” >>>>>> (which most often is not) because the effeminized educational system >>>>>> would >>>>>> rather drug them than simply deal with active boys being active >>>>>> boys—female >>>>>> teachers in the publik skoolz often seem to want to turn these boys into >>>>>> docile little lambs like the little girls are in their classrooms rather >>>>>> than do the heavy lifting of shaping, molding, and directing these boys. >>>>>> These drugs, however, will often warp the minds of these boys, creating >>>>>> mental problems and making them more likely to display the personality >>>>>> traits associated with mass shooters. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having discussed these other areas, let’s turn to the elephant in the >>>>>> room that the Left desperately wants to avoid talking about. >>>>>> Mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>>>> exception—denizens of the Left. >>>>>> >>>>>> The mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>>>> exception—denizens of the Left. Take this latest shooter, Chris >>>>>> Harper-Mercer. Here you have a guy who had a well-known hatred of >>>>>> “organized religion” and who specifically targeted Christians during his >>>>>> rampage. His social media footprint indicates that he supported the Black >>>>>> Lives Matter movement and expressed admiration >>>>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/01/umpqua-gunman-id-d-as-chris-harper-mercer.html> >>>>>> for >>>>>> Vester Flanagan, the black supremacist who shot two white reporters dead >>>>>> in >>>>>> August. He was a supporter of the marxist IRA (Irish Republican Army), >>>>>> and >>>>>> stated on internet forums that he wanted to “strike back” at >>>>>> “normals”—which is a sarcastic term sometimes used by socially >>>>>> disaffected >>>>>> people on the Left to describe all the people like you and me who don’t >>>>>> support “social justice” and political correctness and all the rest. >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s interesting that the media and the Left seem to have an >>>>>> understanding that this is the case, for they initially made some >>>>>> underhanded efforts at casting Harper-Mercer as a “right winger”—and did >>>>>> so >>>>>> by attempting to hack, alter, and misreport information about him. For >>>>>> instance, at one online dating website, Harper-Mercer’s political views >>>>>> were listed as “republican, conservative”—yet it was noted that this was >>>>>> changed (and indeed, the profile was altered five times) *after* the >>>>>> shooter was already dead. Actually, Harper-Mercer was registered >>>>>> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d79_1443808511> to Oregon’s >>>>>> Independent Party, a left-leaning third party that has previously >>>>>> cross-nominated liberal Oregon Democrats like Jeff Merkley and Ben >>>>>> Westlund >>>>>> in 2008 and John Kitzhaber in 2010. In a rather transparent attempt to >>>>>> distance him from ties to Black Lives Matter, the media even altered the >>>>>> image of Harper-Mercer (who is mixed race, with a white father and black >>>>>> mother) to make him appear more white >>>>>> <http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/>. >>>>>> Hilariously, the *LA Times* has even attempted to cast >>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/03/shock-la-times-labels-black-oregon-shooter-as-white-supremacist/> >>>>>> Harper-Mercer >>>>>> as a “white supremacist,” despite his identification as mixed race, his >>>>>> affinity for Vester Flanagan, and his murder of an exclusively white set >>>>>> of >>>>>> victims. >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason they do this is because the Left desperately needs a >>>>>> “right-wing killer” to counterbalance all the left-wing crazies who have >>>>>> perpetrated massing shootings in recent years. >>>>>> >>>>>> But there’s no getting around the data. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jared Laughner, who attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabby Giffords, >>>>>> hated George Bush, hated religion, and went after Giffords because she >>>>>> wasn’t liberal enough. Seung-hui Cho, the Virginia Tech shooter, hated >>>>>> George Bush, hated Republicans, hated religion. James Holmes, the Aurora >>>>>> theater shooter, was connected with the Occupy Wall Street movement, >>>>>> hated >>>>>> Christians, and eventually ended up converting to Islam in prison. Adam >>>>>> Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, was reported to have a website dedicated >>>>>> to >>>>>> satan, and hated Christians. Even Craig Stephen Hicks, the atheist who >>>>>> shot >>>>>> three Muslims students in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in February, hated >>>>>> “religion” of all kinds and could just as easily have vented his >>>>>> frustrations on Christian neighbors. It’s not just shooters, either - >>>>>> Andrew Joseph Stack, the guy who flew his Piper Cub into the IRS building >>>>>> in Austin, Texas, left behind a rambling screed praising Marxism. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> seeming exception to these in recent years would be Dylann Roof, the >>>>>> little >>>>>> sicko who shot up the church in Charleston, South Carolina, back in June, >>>>>> killing nine black parishioners. But even then, we should note that he >>>>>> *SHOT >>>>>> UP A CHURCH* *AND KILLED NINE CHRISTIANS*—not exactly the actions of >>>>>> the stereotypical “radical religious righter” boogeyman that the Left >>>>>> always warns is hiding just over the horizon. >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s really starting to look as if the only way to keep Americans >>>>>> safe is, instead of banning guns, to ban liberals who don’t like >>>>>> Christians. >>>>>> >>>>>> But we can’t do that, of course, because there’s some kind of >>>>>> constitutional amendment against it. And we wouldn’t want to go >>>>>> overturning >>>>>> any constitutional amendments, after all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh wait >>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/03/obama-goes-beyond-mere-gun-control-hints-confiscation/> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> At this point, the only way the Left is going to be able to achieve >>>>>> its dream of a gun-free America (except for police and the military and >>>>>> other agents of government, of course) is to overturn the 2ndamendment. >>>>>> They can try to do this legally by amending the Constitution, either with >>>>>> an Article V convention or the more old-fashioned way that has been >>>>>> employed 27 times now. But let’s be realistic—this simply will not >>>>>> happen. >>>>>> They could not get anywhere near the support they would need to even >>>>>> begin >>>>>> to hope to go this route. >>>>>> >>>>>> So the more likely route they will take will be to “repeal” the 2nd >>>>>> amendment >>>>>> illegally. This could be done by simply legislating a ban and subsequent >>>>>> confiscation. It could be achieved via executive order. It could also be >>>>>> realized by ginning up lawsuits that would allow them to steer cases >>>>>> towards left-wing judges, who would then allow the federal courts to >>>>>> “evolve” on this issue and start finding that gun bans and confiscation >>>>>> are >>>>>> “constitutional,” hoping that by the time the cases made their way to the >>>>>> Supreme Court, at least one of the conservative Justices will have been >>>>>> replaced by a liberal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any of these methods would be completely unconstitutional and would >>>>>> have no legitimacy at all. And should this route be employed, the states >>>>>> and the people should be ready to resist such attempts. The states should >>>>>> stand ready to nullify any such law or ruling, using their >>>>>> constitutionally >>>>>> provided right <http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/dunkin/150904> to >>>>>> judge such legislation as unconstitutional, and hence null and void. At >>>>>> the >>>>>> same time, the body of the people should simply refuse to obey any order >>>>>> to >>>>>> turn in their firearms, as roughly 90% of AR-15 owners in Connecticut >>>>>> reportedly did. Further, the body of the people—the militia who stand in >>>>>> defense of the liberties of this nation—should also be ready to resist, >>>>>> with whatever force is necessary, any violent attempt by our own >>>>>> government >>>>>> to confiscate our guns. When a government makes war on its own people in >>>>>> such a fashion, it immediately loses any claim to obedience, legitimacy, >>>>>> or >>>>>> forbearance on the part of its people. >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason for this is simple. You think individual left-wing >>>>>> fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? Just wait until left-wing >>>>>> *government *gets into power without a citizenry that is broadly and >>>>>> heavily armed. You can ask any survivor of the Soviet, Nazi, Khmer Rouge, >>>>>> Sandinista, or Maoist regimes what happens when the only people who have >>>>>> guns are the agents of government. The abundant evidence from these >>>>>> governments shows that the radical Left does not mind mass killings at >>>>>> all—provided they’re the ones who get to do the killing. >>>>>> >>>>>> The lesson from the Umpqua college shooting is not that we need fewer >>>>>> guns. Instead, it is that we need more of them in the right hands—the >>>>>> hands >>>>>> of law-abiding citizens ready and willing to take action to defend >>>>>> themselves, those around them, and ultimately, the liberties of their >>>>>> nation. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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