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*Questions for Black Lives Matter:The Case for Separation*

Posted on May 5, 2016
<http://fredoneverything.org/questions-for-black-lives-matterthe-case-for-separation/>
by
Fred Reed <http://fredoneverything.org/author/fredreed/>

I reading  the endless complaints by blacks about shootings by the police,
I usually find it hard to know what really happened. As far as I am aware,
the media never allow an unedited interview, or any interview, with the
police charged with the shootings but allow endless commentary by people
who weren’t there.

I am also often puzzled by the motivation of the cops. Do they confer in
the morning and say, “Hey, let’s shoot some totally innocent black guy in
front of witnesses who probably have cell phones?” And why are cops not
brutalizing Latinos, only blacks, especially in LA, which provides a
target-rich environment?

If I could, I would speak to BLM as follows:

I cannot determine what you want. There seems to be a great deal of anger
but little clarity. Discussion usually wanders off  into demands for
justice, but without specifics.

Since I am looking for practical recommendations, let us begin by
acknowledging the circumstances we face. You say that white cops mistreat
blacks, sometimes brutally. This is true. I have seen some of it, and know
of more. White cops seldom like blacks, nor blacks, white cops. The
cultures are irreconcilably different. On the other hand, beatings of
whites, Latinos, and Asians by gangs of blacks are far outnumber beatings
of blacks by white cops. In sum, no love is lost and I do not see a lot of
moral high ground. So:

*Do you want white policemen excluded from black neighborhoods?*

The available answers are “yes,” and “no.”  I do not mean to be abrupt
about this, but  vague considerations of abstract justice, alleged
discrimination, and racism do not provide usable answers. So, do you want
white cops pulled from black neighborhoods, or not? It’s one or the other.

Personally I think it wiser not to have whites policing blacks. I don’t
want to see white cops raped in media circuses. Nor do I want blacks to be
mistreated by white cops. It seems to me that BLM should support
segregation of police as it would eliminate any possibility of racist
behavior. But, again, I will accept whatever choice you make.

*Two New Jersey Teens Arrested for Brutal Knockout Attack on Elderly Man in
Paterson
<http://www.infowars.com/two-new-jersey-teens-arrested-for-brutal-knockout-attack-on-elderly-man-in-paterson/>*

*Do you want **any** policemen in your neighborhoods?*

Here again a clear answer is needed. I have no stake in the question and do
not want to impose my standards on you. Yet a concrete policy must be
either no police, or police of some kind. Which?

If you asked my advice, I would suggest that without police your
neighborhoods would turn into free-fire zones.  Note that after Ferguson
police have in large part stopped policing, so you can get a minor idea of
what a police-less society will be like. However,your neighborhoods are
your neighborhoods. I will respect your decision.

*Do blacks want to recruit, train, and discipline police forces of blacks
only in their neighborhoods?*

Again,  your choice. I do not presume to prescribe for you. However, it
would eliminate complaints of racism. Should this plan be adopted, black
forces would receive the same funding as white, the same pensions and
benefits, so there would be no question of discrimination. They would
better understand a black population. But do as you like. Just tell me,
specifically, what it is that you want.

*‘Black Lives Matter’ Thugs Who Beat Marine Unconscious in Race Attack
WON’T Face Hate Crime Charges
<http://toprightnews.com/black-lives-matter-thugs-who-beat-marine-unconscious-in-race-attack-wont-face-hate-crime-charges/>*

*What laws do you want cops to enforce in your neighborhoods?*

*Specifically* what laws? Do you want the police to arrest crack dealers?
Yes, or no. Again, I don’t care, and do not tell you what to do.

Yet cops need to know what they are expected to do. Should they stop people
drinking in public, or allow it? Dealing drugs? Illegal parking? Public
urination? Looting? Prostitution? I don’t care. Make any decision you like,
but tell the cops clearly, and do not penalize them for doing what you tell
them to do.

As a multiculturalist, I believe that different ethnic and racial groups
should, within their neighborhoods, live by their own norms. That includes
*my* neighborhood and *my* norms. For example, in my neighborhood I would
want the police to shoot looters and arsonists. Perhaps this is a white
thing, but I am a white guy and I am talking about white neighborhoods and
white notions of civilization.

[image: Description: RacialMurder]

Breitbart:
<http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/25/three-young-black-women-accused-beating-51-year-old-white-man-death/>
“Three
Young Black Women Accused of Beating 51-Year-Old White Man to Death”
Hundreds
<http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=colin+flaherty>
of documented cases exist, carefully ignored by the media and the
government. If you ignore a lump, it will go away. Ask any oncologist.

*What should cops do when a criminal resists arrest? *

This is an important question, in fact *the* important question. Nearly all
of the complaints of shootings and beatings have involved resistance to
arrest. It becomes explosive when white cops are involved. Here we need a
clear answer. A cop cannot obey a vague abstraction.

Let us suppose that in a black neighborhood a cop sees a wanted drug
dealer, rapist, killer, or burglar. He says, “You are under arrest,” and
the rapist or wanted armed robber or coke dealer says, “Fuck off, white
boy.”

What does BLM want the cop to do? Nothing? Something? What? *Specifically,*
what? This is not a philosophical question. A cop in an actual situation
has to do something, or nothing.  I don’t care which. You tell me, and I
will support your decision. But the cop has to  know what is expected of
him.

For a white cop, the best answer is “nothing.” Anything he does risks a
brutality beef: Physically tackling a criminal, tasing him, pepper-spraying
him, clubbing him, or shooting him all pose the risk of prosecution,
lawsuits, and loss of career.  There is no pretty way to subdue a strong
male who doesn’t want to be subdued. A wanted killer is looking at a lot of
time in slam and will be perfectly willing to hurt a cop to avoid being
arrested.

What do you want the cop to do? *Specifically* what?

* What does BLM want **black** cops to do? *

This is your business, not mine, but you might think about it from the
cop’s point of view. How should a black cop respond to resistance?

Other questions merit consideration. If you have ever walked beats with
cops, which virtually no one has, you know that a cop faces ambiguities,
murky regions of the law, and sometimes problems that cannot be  resolved
within the law.

For example, suppose that a drug crew is selling on the sidewalk in front
of an old woman’s house, and she is afraid to go out for groceries. This is
not hypothetical: I have seen it. What should the cop do?

Legally, he can do nothing. The sidewalk is public, certainly if they keep
moving. They will not be selling openly, so he can’t arrest them. He can
tell them to move on, and they may. The minute he is out of sight, they are
back. What if they say, “It’s a free country”?  Now what? The little old
lady needs to eat.

What do you suggest? If it is your old woman in your neighborhood, it is
your business, but the cop needs to know.

In sum, if you will say what concrete and specific things you want, we can
discuss your desires rationally and perhaps come to a resolution. Some
problems will inevitably remain, such as what to do in mixed neighborhoods.
My take is that the quickest and easiest means of limiting friction is
simply to separate white cops and black people, and black cops and white
people, but this, if you agree that it is a good idea, cannot happen unless
groups like BLM ask for it.




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