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On Thursday, June 2, 2016, pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: > Pluto's and then Geoffrey's comments baffle me. > > I don't know what is baffling about above comments Keith, Geoffrey is > quite correct stating that the Middle East mess we now have is due to > English/French/Belgian/Italian policies in the 18th and 19th centuries > chopping and occupying Africa willy-nilly. As well, do you misbelieve me > when I say that we all lived very happily in Egypt until we were kicked > out by Nasser, the fault being laid totally at the feet of the accursed > Eisenhower administration, which used it's might to stop the British and > French to come to the rescue of it's citizens, (being jealous and wanting > control of the Suez canal) thereby forcing us to return to England/France > and Jews wherever, leaving all our possessions behind and having to rely > (for a while) on a grace and favour pension from the Crown (but that is > another story). > > It is interesting to note that I have now morphed into a "Secular > Progressive" several months ago you considered me a "socialist/communist" > I'll have to think which description I prefer, lol > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > [email protected] > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/politicalforum/topics> > Google > Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > Topic digest > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/politicalforum/topics> > > - [grendelreport] The Left's Retreat into First World Problems > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_0> > - 5 Updates > - [grendelreport] Florida Muslim Prof Endorses Severing Hands, > Blasphemy Laws > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_1> > - 7 Updates > - [New post] AUSTRALIA: Clever sign in a butcher’s store window has > boosted bacon sales while angering Muslims > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_2> > - 2 Updates > - [New post] Political Correctness Visual Definition > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_3> > - 2 Updates > - Digest for [email protected] - 25 updates in 16 topics > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_4> > - 3 Updates > - Preparedness Advantages of Holding on to Your Older Vehicle > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_5> > - 2 Updates > - The Donald Trump Porn Parody Is Here And It's Absolutely Bonkers > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_6> > - 2 Updates > - [grendelreport] Will The U.S. Government's Cybersecurity Plan Keep > The Manufacturing Industry Safe? > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_group_thread_7> > - 2 Updates > > [grendelreport] The Left's Retreat into First World Problems > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/a3c9a5d6cec9e1c9?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 02 08:24AM -0500 > > *http://tinyurl.com/hcn5aam <http://tinyurl.com/hcn5aam>* > > *The Left’s Retreat into First World Problems > < > http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2016/06/the-lefts-retreat-into-first-world-problems/ > >* > > *By Newt Gringrich* > > *Originally published at the Washington Times* > < > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/31/newt-gingrich-lefts-retreat-first-world-problems/ > > > > < > http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2016/06/the-lefts-retreat-into-first-world-problems/ > >[image: > Description: The Left’s Retreat into First World Problems] > < > http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2016/06/the-lefts-retreat-into-first-world-problems/ > > > < > http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2016/06/the-lefts-retreat-into-first-world-problems/ > > > > In an era when entire battles of presidential campaigns play out on > Twitter, perhaps it’s appropriate that the liberal agenda can increasingly > be reduced to a single hashtag: #FirstWorldProblems. > > First World Problems, for those untutored in the lingo of social media, is > the term for those times when the airport’s internet connection is too > slow, when your satellite television is out, or when the fancy restaurant > you’re eating at forgets to hold the olives on your salad. > > Labeling something a First World Problem usually signals a certain > self-awareness--an acknowledgement that there’s a difference between the > real problems of life and the affliction you’ve taken to social media to > complain about. > > Today’s liberal elites, comfortable in the commanding heights of the > universities, the bureaucracies, the media companies, and the coastal > enclaves where they reside, practice a politics of First World Problems. > But they do it without the self-awareness of the hashtaggers, and instead > with a great deal of self-righteousness. > > Far from acknowledging that their grievances are small in the grand scheme > of things, liberals frequently describe their First World Problems as the > great challenges of our time. And often, this moral self-indulgence comes > at the expense of political and news media focus on Real World > Problems--the real problems many Americans face in their daily lives. > > For instance: despite our status as a developed country, many of our > schools are destroying the opportunity to pursue happiness for generations > of Americans. In Detroit > < > http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/detroit-public-schools-93-not-proficient-reading-96-not-proficient > >, > 96 percent of eighth graders are not proficient in math. Ninety-three > percent are not proficient in reading. In Baltimore, 91 percent > < > http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-parcc-scores-high-school-20151105-story.html > > > of the students fail the math exam. In Chicago, 77 percent > < > http://www.illinoisreportcard.com/State.aspx?source=Trends&source2=Parcc&Stateid=IL > > > of students fall below standards in achievement. In 17 of our 50 largest > cities, fewer than half of all students graduate from high school. > > And yet, what issue of injustice in schools has focused the attention, > passion, and power of the liberal elites? Guaranteeing every child the > right to use the bathroom of his or her (zis or xyr > < > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/ > >) > choosing. > > In May, the Obama administration ordered public schools nationwide to open > their bathrooms and locker rooms to transgendered students of the opposite > sex. The administration carefully constructed the rules to prevent schools > from creating special “gender-neutral” bathrooms to accommodate transgender > students. Instead, the administration insists that transgendered students > must be allowed to use bathrooms and locker rooms of the opposite sex--and > if any of their peers are uncomfortable, they must request an > accommodation. > > It’s not that the liberal elites don’t care about the 93 percent of eighth > graders in Detroit who aren’t proficient in reading. It’s just that they > care a lot more actively, and get a lot more upset, and spend a lot more > political and media resources over the case of the transgendered student > who’s asked to use a gender-neutral bathroom. That’s the politics of First > World Problems. > > There’s no shortage of other examples. > > For instance, in President Obama’s hometown of Chicago, 69 people were shot > < > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-memorial-day-20160530-story.html > > > over Memorial Day weekend, including at least six fatally. Homicides and > shootings in the city are both up more than 60 percent > < > http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/18/us/chicago-murder-problem.html?smid=pl-share&_r=0 > > > this year. President Obama, however, kicked off his own Memorial Day > weekend reflecting on war and peace and the ironies of humanity in > Hiroshima, Japan, where he called for a nuclear-free world. It’s not he > doesn’t care about the murders in Chicago. It’s just that he has the luxury > to focus on grander things. > > Or consider California, where the Delta Smelt, a 2-inch, endangered fish in > the Central Valley, turns out to be very important > < > http://www.wsj.com/articles/forget-the-missing-rainfall-california-wheres-the-delta-smelt-1430085510 > > > to the left. The livelihoods of thousands of California farm workers, who > the Fish and Wildlife Service wants to restrict out of work, don’t get so > much consideration. The environmental left knows about them. They’re just a > lot more focused on the trials of a little fish. “Fish, yes; normal people, > no” is a San Francisco upper-class elite attitude. > > There are still more examples, from free birth control to oil divestment, > microaggressions and gun show loopholes. > > But most share one characteristic, which explains their evolution from > complaints to political causes. To the left, these First World Problems > have dramatic weight: they connote some symbolic, metaphorical, or > allegorical value. They’re literary struggles, as opposed to the kind faced > by millions of Americans--literal struggles, like getting a job, finding a > good school for our children, or living in a safe community. > > How nice for the liberal elites that they have the luxury of First World > Problems. If only they’d leave the job of governing to people more focused > on Real World Problems, perhaps there’d be no problem at all. > > > > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> > ------------------------------ > > > Visit Your Group > < > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmM2c4MHBxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NjQ4MjE1ODY > -> > > > [image: Yahoo! 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It’s just that his own > self-righteousness often gets in the way of admitting to them: “There’s no > question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt > about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my > life that were not appropriate,” the family-values candidate once famously > said about his multiple extra-marital affairs. So in the service of airing > out other yawning gaps between Newt’s words and deeds that may have > emerged > when the candidate was too busy loving America, TNR has compiled the > following index: > > On Christian moralizing: Gingrich’s litany of infidelities has been widely > reported, as has his habit of leaving wives for mistresses. Of the affair > that he carried on with a volunteer during his first campaign in 1974, one > of his aides said, “We’d have won in 1974 if we could have kept him out of > the office, screwing her on the desk.” But that hasn’t stopped him from > claiming positions of moral loftiness, decrying the impending downfall of > our society, and penning books arguing, “There is no attack on American > culture more deadly and more historically dishonest than the secular > effort > to drive God out of America’s public life.” His second wife, in a 2010 > interview withEsquire, claimed, “He believes that what he says in public > and how he lives don’t have to be connected. … If you believe that, then > yeah, you can run for president.” > > On shady book deals: In the late 1980s, Gingrich launched a vicious attack > on Democratic Speaker Jim Wright, arguing that bulk sales of his book had > been crafted to avoid laws limiting outside income for members of > Congress. > By the mid-90s, however, Gingrich found himself in a strikingly similar > position, as it came to light that he had received a $4.5 million advance > from HarperCollins in a two-book deal. Then, in the spirit of one doing > one > better, it later came out that one of Gingrich’s charities had bought the > books en masse. > > On Obamacare and death panels: In July 2009, Newt Gingrich was director of > a health care think tank and a staunch advocate of so-called “death > panels,” writing, “If [end-of-life-counseling] was used to care for the > approximately 4.5 million Medicare beneficiaries who die every year, > Medicare could save more than $33 billion a year.” But a year later, as he > weighed his presidential aspirations, Gingrich took a different tack on > Obama’s plan to reimburse doctors for such consultations: “You’re asking > us > to trust turning power over to the government, when there clearly are > people in America who believe in establishing euthanasia.” > > > On the housing crisis: In the Bloomberg-Washington Post debate, Newt > called, with a straight face, for the jailing of Chris Dodd and Barney > Frank: “In Barney Frank’s case,” he advised, “go back and look at the > lobbyists he was close to at—at Freddie Mac. … Everybody in the media who > wants to go after the business community ought to start by going after the > politicians who have been at the heart of the sickness which is weakening > this country.” All that rage at lobbyists for the housing agencies … from > a > man whom Freddie Mac paid between $1.6 and $1.8 million for his “advice as > a historian.” Which definitely isn’t lobbying, and would never qualify as > the sort of relationship that he just suggested was worthy of being jailed > for. > > On drug policy: As a good child of the ’60s, Newt smoked pot, and as a > young congressman in 1981, he authored a bill to legalize the use of > marijuana for medical purposes. But Gingrich’s more recent stated methods > for dealing with drug offenders might have placed his younger self in a > tight spot. Just last week, he argued that when it comes to dealing with > illegal drugs, “Places like Singapore have been the most successful at > doing that,” ostensibly endorsing the idea that anyone caught with 18 > ounces of cannabis face mandatory death by hanging. > > On corruption: Newt led Republicans to power in 1994 in part by blasting > Democrats as being hopelessly corrupt. But soon after, Gingrich engaged in > his own congressional corruption, getting slammed by the House Ethics > Committee on a multitude of charges: of laundering donations through > charities, of using a charity called “Learning for Earning” to pay the > salary of a staffer writing a Newt Gingrich biography, and of lying to the > ethics committee. Gingrich eventually had to pay a $300,000 fine for his > transgressions. > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 02 09:45AM -0400 > > What a hatchet job, and by New Republic (a far left Secular Progressive > George Soros funded media/publication) but of course Soros is Plain Ol's > Daddy-God! > > The truth is that Newt Gingrich is a voice in the dark, especially > regarding the fatalist ruling class elitists and globalists in Washington > D.C.; (Gingrich himself terms them: "The Pseudo-Intellectual-Georgetown > Bar Crowd") and of course this is the kind of folks that Plain Ol' secretly > champions. > > What a farce. > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:34 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 02 07:03AM -0700 > > What a hatchet job > --- > he did on Bill Clinton. > between that and his other behaviors he is political history. > > Soros is Plain Ol's Daddy-God > --- > hogwash ... Soros is a fucking thief and nazi jew who incites racial > division like the rest of his klan. > > > > > > On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 8:45:14 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 02 10:17AM -0400 > > Gingrich will be somehow in the Trump Administration, most likely the > President's national security advisor. > > Bank on it. > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:03 AM, plainolamerican < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_digest_top> > [grendelreport] Florida Muslim Prof Endorses Severing Hands, Blasphemy > Laws > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/e01ea69286f6384?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 01 10:45PM -0400 > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Tracey Robertson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > [email protected]: Jun 01 10:58PM -0400 > > Snopes is funded in large part by George Soros so there so called "neutal" > evaluations is called into question because of the dirty Soros money > funding them. > > > In a message dated 6/1/2016 7:45:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Tracey Robertson <[email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: > > > I gladly challenge them to come to Michigan and accurately review the > facts. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:38 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: > > > > > I live in Michigan and know it to be accurate > --- > Snopes says you're a liar. > > > just because you won't go near muzzies doesn't make it true. > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-5, fed up wrote: > > I live in Michigan and know it to be accurate > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 1, 2016, at 3:44 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Examine loans being given to muslims that are shariah compliant financing > -- no interest; > --- > > The Hebrew Free Loan Society (HFLS) uses interest-free lending to help > jews. This form of Jewish philanthropy is rooted in an age-old tradition > that > believes helping jews become self-sufficient is the highest form of > charity. > Our interest-free loans enable jews to attend college or graduate school, > start or expand a small business, meet emergency needs, and more. Since > our founding in 1892, we have provided over $270 million in loans to more > than 875,000 borrowers while maintaining a repayment rate of 99%. > > > no go zones where shariah law is the order and the City of Dearborn has > voted to have shariah law govern. It is slowly creeping into our society > and is anthetical to American law. > --- > fear noted and laughed at. > > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp > > Claim: A number of localities in the United States, France, and Britain > are considered Muslim "no-go zones" (operating under Sharia Law) where > local laws are not applicable. > > > ____________________________________ > FALSE > ____________________________________ > > Examples: [Collected via e-mail, January 2015] > > On Fox and elsewhere it's been reported that there are 751 "no go zones" > in France wherenon-Muslims aren't allowed and only Sharia law is enforced. > Also, Dearborn, Michigan is rumored to be governed by Sharia law and > (alternatively) is a "no go zone". > Origins: On 7 January 2015, gunmen stormed the offices of French > satirical publication Charlie Hebdo, killing > > > > > _Report Advertisement_ > (http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp#report-ad) > 12 employees and wounding several others in an attack by terrorists who > reportedly said they were avenging the prophet Muhammad. Concerns about > Islamic extremists intensified in the tragedy's aftermath and > reinvigorated a > long-circulating rumor involving Muslim "no go zones" in cities in both > the > United States and Europe. > > The belief that large neighborhoods or entire towns and cities have been > effectively placed outside local rule of law is in no way new: variations > of the rumor have circulated since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001, but > the rumor received both heightened attention and increased saturation > after > a controversial Fox News segment on 11 January 2015. > > In the course of that segment, Fox News host Jeanine Pirro spoke with > self-styled terrorism expert _Steve Emerson_ > ( > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11340399/David-Cameron-US-terror-expert-Steve-Emer > son-is-a-complete-idiot.html) : > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zF7nbEvwY > Emerson's credibility was challenged when he made claims on television > concerning the city of _Birmingham_ ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham) > which led _British Prime Minister_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom) > _David Cameron_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron) to say that Emerson is > "clearly a complete idiot."_[4]_ > ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-telegraph-20150112-4) > > The British broadcasting regulator _Ofcom_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom) subsequently censured _Fox News_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News) for airing the comments, which > they characterised as "materially > misleading" and "a serious breach for a current affairs programme"._[5]_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-5) > Emerson has testified before _Congressional committees_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_committees) on such topics > including _Al Qaeda_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Qaeda) , _Hamas_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas) , _Hezbollah_ ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah) and > _Islamic Jihad_ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Jihad_Organization) > > ._[6]_ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-Bio-6) > Some of > Emerson's statements related to Muslims in the US and Europe have been > criticized for inaccuracies,_[7]_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-Transcript-7) > _[8]_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-Guardian.Fox-8) > _[9]_ > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-BBC-Apology-9) > and he has been described as a "Islamophobe" > and as a discredited "terrorism expert"._[10]_ > ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Emerson#cite_note-CambridgeCompanion-10) > > > Emerson began his set of remarks by claiming a number of Muslim no-go > zones existed in areas of the U.S., England, France, and other western > countries. According to Emerson, "Sharia law" essentially overrode the > laws of > the countries in which said zones were located, and local police avoided > interceding in the affected areas: > Well these no go zones exist not only in France, but they exist throughout > Europe. They're sort of amorphous, they're not contiguous necessarily, > but they're sort of safe havens and they're places where the governments > like > France, Britain, Sweden, Germany don't exercise any sovereignty. So you > basically have zones where Shariah courts were set up, where Muslim > density > is very intense, where the police don't go in, and where it's basically a > separate country almost, a country within a country. > Emerson continued by insinuating authorities in areas as France and the UK > denied the existence of no-gozones in their countries and claimed the > entire city of Birmingham, England, was one such example of ano-go zone in > which "non-Muslim" residents were not permitted: > In Britain, it's not just no go zones, there are actual cities like > Birmingham that are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don't go > in. > And parts of London, there are actually Muslim religious police that > actually > beat and actually wound seriously anyone who doesn't dress according to > Muslim, religious Muslim attire. So there's a situation that Western > Europe > is not dealing with. > In response, British Prime Minister David Cameron termed Emerson "a > complete idiot": > An American "terrorism expert" who claimed that Birmingham is a > Muslim-only city is "clearly a complete idiot", David Cameron has said. > > The Prime Minister said he choked on his porridge after hearing the claim > by Steve Emerson, a Fox News pundit, that non-Muslims "simply don't go" to > Britain's second-largest city. > > Mr Emerson issued a grovelling apology after issuing the claim. > > Mr Cameron said: "Frankly I choked on my porridge and thought it must be > April's Fools Day. This guy is clearly a complete idiot. > > "He started with an apology. That's not a bad start. But what he should do > is look at Birmingham and see what a fantastic example it is bringing > people together of different faiths and different backgrounds and building > a > world-class brilliant city with a great and strong economy." > Shortly after the segment aired, Emerson fully retracted his claims about > Birmingham and issued an apology in a _statement_ > ( > http://www.investigativeproject.org/4730/emerson-with-judge-pirro-no-go-islamic-zones#) > published > on his web site: > I have clearly made a terrible error for which I am deeply sorry. My > comments about Birmingham were totally in error. And I am issuing this > apology > and correction for having made this comment about the beautiful city of > Birmingham. I do not intend to justify or mitigate my mistake by stating > that > I had relied on other sources because I should have been much more > careful. > There was no excuse for making this mistake and I owe an apology to every > resident of Birmingham. I am not going to make any excuses. I made an > inexcusable error. And I am obligated to openly acknowledge that mistake. > I wish > to apologize for all residents of that great city of Birmingham. > > Steve Emerson > > PS. I am making donation to Birmingham Children's Hospital. > Before he appeared on Fox for the segment in question, Emerson floated a > similar claim during a Twitter exchange with French ambassador Gerard > Araud. > During the back and forth, Emerson pressed the ambassador for details on > 750 rumored no-go zones inside France. Araud replied to Emerson's claims > about lawless areas of France: > > > > > > _9 Jan 15_ (https://twitter.com/TheIPT/status/553661948647452672) > _InvestigativeProject @TheIPT_ (https://twitter.com/TheIPT) > > > _@GerardAraud_ (https://twitter.com/GerardAraud) IPT Executive Director > Steven Emerson stands by his comments about "no-go" zones across France. > > > > > _ > > Follow_ (https://twitter.com/GerardAraud) > _Gérard Araud > > ✔@GerardAraud_ (https://twitter.com/GerardAraud) > > > ._@TheIPT_ (https://twitter.com/TheIPT) "No-go zones across France" ! You > have exactly the same problem of law and order in your own country. > _3:24 PM - 9 Jan 2015_ > (https://twitter.com/GerardAraud/status/553663697835794434) · > _Washington, DC, United States_ > (https://twitter.com/search?q=place:01fbe706f872cb32) > * > (https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=553663697835794434) * _ > 55 Retweets_ > (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=553663697835794434) > * _ > 88 likes_ (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=553663697835794434) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The multifaceted rumor has several aspects spanning multiple countries: > among areas rumored to be partially under de facto Islamic law are > Birmingham, England; a small Muslim enclave (commonly known as Islamberg) > within > Hancock, New York; Dearborn, Michigan; and more than 750 unspecified areas > in > and around Paris and elsewhere in France. The confusion Araud expressed in > response to Emerson's statements (before the Fox News segment) appeared to > stem from translation confusion over what are known as "_zones urbaines > sensibles_ (http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/) " (ZUS) or "_sensitive > urban > zones_ > ( > http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g187147-i14-k890234-No_go_zones_in_France-Paris_Ile_de_France.html) > " in France. While some pockets of > citizenry (including high-density Muslim populations) in France have > indeed > been identified as ZUS, and the term is not a designator for large > populations of Muslims. Rather, the highlighted areas are ones that have > been > afflicted with issues such as crime, poverty, unemployment, and blight and > are > therefore targeted for _urban renewal_ > ( > http://www.economie.grandlyon.com/zones-urbaines-sensibles-zus-lyon.45.0.html) > initiatives. Perhaps owing to the > language barrier, the ZUS have been assumed to be designators of areas of > Islamic lawlessness in recent years, but as noted at_Geographic Travels_ > ( > http://www.geographictravels.com/2006/11/no-go-areas-of-france-and-rest-of.htm > l) : > A few [Zones Urbaines Sensibles] are truly no-go zones, while most are > just areas where the government is focusing more development and police > require special procedures to operate. A few (NOT ALL of the 751 ZUS, as > falsely reported in "anti-jihadist blogs") of these zones, primarily > around > Paris, are under control of radical Islamists. > Likewise, Middle Eastern writer Daniel Pipes originally _blogged_ > (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006/11/the-751-no-go-zones-of-france) > about Zones > Urbaines Sensibles back in 2006 and then revised his viewpoint after > seeing some of them first-hand in 2013: > I had an opportunity today to travel at length to several banlieues > (suburbs) around Paris, including Sarcelles, Val d'Oise, and Seine Saint > Denis. > This comes on the heels of having visited over the years the predominantly > immigrant (and Muslim) areas of Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, Berlin, and > Athens. > > A couple of observations: > > For a visiting American, these areas are very mild, even dull. We who know > the Bronx and Detroit expect urban hell in Europe too, but there things > look fine. The immigrant areas are hardly beautiful, but buildings are > intact, greenery abounds, and order prevails. > > These are not full-fledged no-go zones but, as the French nomenclature > accurately indicates, "sensitive urban zones." In normal times, they are > unthreatening, routine places. But they do unpredictably erupt, with car > burnings, attacks on representatives of the state (including police), and > riots. > > Having this first-hand experience, I regret having called these areas > no-go zones. > Certainly there are areas of France where crime and violence is rampant, > that travelers and non-residentsmay avoid, and where police may intercede > in only with caution and difficulty — some of which are home to > significant > Muslim populations — but as others have noted: > [Some] confound the idea in France of a special economic zone with the > problem of the cités, that is, regions in the urban periphery of French > cities, that are populated by an underclass consisting largely of > immigrants > from Muslim countries. Comparable to the "projects" in the United States > or > "housing estates" in Great Britain, the relationship between the > inhabitants > of the cités and the police is often adversarial. For example, in a form > of > protest that has become a sort of annual tradition, 940 cars were set on > fire this past New Year's Eve, primarily in the vicinity of the cités. > Most > French people would consider that police authority is, at best, tenuous in > the cités and the police exercise extreme caution performing their duties > there. As police would in the US in housing projects, or, these days, in > Ferguson, Missouri. > > French law applies everywhere in France, including the cités, whatever > practical obstacles may exist to its application. > After Emerson sparred with Araud, his claims were broadcast to a larger > audience and met with considerable ridicule. Outrage over France's ZUS is > slightly easier to sell (as no locations are ever specified, and a > language > barrier hampers reading comprehension for the curious) than a claim the > entire city of Birmingham has fallen to Sharia law. Following the segment, > incredulous viewers began to mock the implausible statements made by > Emerson > using the hashtag #FoxNewsFacts on Twitter. The citizens of Birmingham > found > his comments to be particularly amusing: > > > > > > _ > > Follow_ (https://twitter.com/LilyBaileyUK) > _Lily Bailey @LilyBaileyUK_ (https://twitter.com/LilyBaileyUK) > > > In Birmingham you can now only play The Beatles "Halal You Need Is Love" > remastered version in public places > _#FoxNewsFacts_ (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FoxNewsFacts?src=hash) > _4:08 PM - 11 Jan 2015_ > (https://twitter.com/LilyBaileyUK/status/554399404816613377) > Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 02 08:02AM -0400 > > Seems that the information has come from a parody/satire site: > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/sharia.asp > > and if you don't trust snopes, try the city of Dearbourn's site: > > > http://www.cityofdearborn.org/news-and-events/city-news/116-satirical-website-makes-up-article-on-sharia-law-for-humor-but-city-of-dearborn-is-not-amused-by-falsehood-sets-record-straight > > > -- > brine > http://brineb.blogspot.com/ > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 02 09:40AM -0400 > > It's not really a question of trusting Babs and Milquetoast Mikkelson > (e.g.; Snopes); it's more of attempting to understand what and why they > are influenced and by whom. > > > > Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 02 10:03AM -0400 > > But in this instance their information is true, backed up by the actual > city!!! > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > -- > brine > http://brineb.blogspot.com/ > plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 02 07:06AM -0700 > > Islam, until such time as it reforms, is incompatible with Western > societies and Wester Cultures: > --- > so are it's religious myth believing abrahamic cousins ... judaism and > christianity. > > the bad news! > they've been unable to kill each other into extinction. > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 5:45:24 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 02 10:15AM -0400 > > Again, I would encourage you to read, study, maybe even watch the videos I > attached Plain Ol. One day, it's going to "Hit You" like a ton of bricks, > and you're literallly going to be embarrassed at how stupid and ignorant > you are, even in your fifties..... > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:06 AM, plainolamerican < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_digest_top> > [New post] AUSTRALIA: Clever sign in a butcher’s store window has boosted > bacon sales while angering Muslims > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/138cf455fded7ebd?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 02 08:16AM -0500 > > BareNakedIslam posted: "Fury as butcher says eating his bacon “cuts chance > of being a suicide bomber by 100%!” Very true. ReportUK Jeff Rapley of > Rapley's Midtown Quality Meats insists he meant no offense with the sign > which was a drive to boost sales of his beloved bacon. The" > > New post on *BARE NAKED ISLAM* > <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1> AUSTRALIA: Clever sign in a > butcher’s store window has boosted bacon sales while angering Muslims > < > http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/06/02/australia-clever-sign-in-a-butchers-store-window-has-boosted-bacon-sales-while-angering-muslims/ > > > by > BareNakedIslam <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1> > > Fury as butcher says eating his bacon “cuts chance of being a suicide > bomber by 100%!” Very true. ReportUK Jeff Rapley of Rapley's Midtown > Quality Meats insists he meant no offense with the sign which was a drive > to boost sales of his beloved bacon. The sign has since gone viral on > social media after it […] > > Read more of this post > < > http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/06/02/australia-clever-sign-in-a-butchers-store-window-has-boosted-bacon-sales-while-angering-muslims/ > > > *BareNakedIslam <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?author=1>* | June 2, 2016 > at 2:03 am | Categories: Laughing at Islam > <http://www.barenakedislam.com/?taxonomy=category&term=laughing-at-islam> > | > URL: http://wp.me/p276zM-1nOq > > Comment > < > http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/06/02/australia-clever-sign-in-a-butchers-store-window-has-boosted-bacon-sales-while-angering-muslims/#respond > > > See all comments > < > http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/06/02/australia-clever-sign-in-a-butchers-store-window-has-boosted-bacon-sales-while-angering-muslims/#comments > > > > Unsubscribe > < > 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https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vdDvQkBzEjsJ:https://www.rt.com/news/262505-israel-military-aid-us/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us > > > 2. > < > https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=643&q=related:https://www.rt.com/news/262505-israel-military-aid-us/+netanyahu+demands+more+money+and+weapons+US&tbo=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwisgJCUwonNAhUD4CYKHZbPC14QHwggMAA > > > > RT > May 28, 2015 - Netanyahu demands 'up to $45 bn' in US military aid to > deter Iran, Gulf ... nuclear weapons, it will be a hundred times more > dangerous > and ... > > > > On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 8:17:22 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_digest_top> > Digest for [email protected] - 25 updates in 16 topics > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/49aaca638e66189?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > pluto of brougham <[email protected]>: Jun 02 04:54PM +1000 > > Finally Pluto, here's but one small example of how and why Islam is > incompatible....I hope you'll read this post and watch the short video: > > I have watched the video Keith, and it confirms what I believe > in passionately, as I mentioned before, after the war, I was born and lived > till I was 10 in a moslem country, Egypt, as Catholics, we had a Jewish > family on one side and a Protestant family on the other side of our > residence, all of our (collective) servants were Moslem, but everyone got > on fine, religion did not figure in any way whatsoever, everyone lived > according to their faith, or even to their atheism, you treated people as > you found them. Of course as in everyday life, there were times when you > disagreed ( I even disagree with you sometimes *G*) but you did not kill > them! The great gulf which divides as today I firmly believe had > it's beginnings after the six day war and the occupation of Palestine, > which brought the radical moslems to the fore. > > As far as that Khomeini turd is concerned, there are nutters everywhere, > and was such a tragedy when the Shah was dethroned from Persia. > > > > geoffrey theist <[email protected]>: Jun 02 05:54AM -0500 > > Much of the mess in the middle east can be layer at the feet of great > Britain and it's arrogant policies after WW 1. the re establishment > Of Isreal contributed more most likely than anything else. And in more > recent time the bush family Iraqi debacles. This is a very > simplistic synopsis of a very complex set of actions. Within this scenario > are many more examples of British and American miscalculations or outright > skulduggery. > On Jun 2, 2016 1:54 AM, "pluto of brougham" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 02 10:08AM -0400 > > Pluto's and then Geoffrey's comments baffle me. > > On the one hand, to hear Pluto, Plain Ol; and other Secular Progressives > (and even traditionalists as is demonstrated by Geoffrey in this particular > thread!); it's the West's (*e.g.; * Western culture and society's) fault > for the rise in fundamentalism within the Islamic world; the Shah of Iran, > (a western fixture); the creation of Egypt; and actually the Middle East > as we know it today was drawn by Western societies. If it were up to then > current day Muslims; they were perfectly happy to live under the guise of > City-States and tribes; warring factions all simplistically contained > within what today we now term the Ottoman Empire (which is a misnomer, > there was no entity that was an Empire as we think of today) > > No; the problem can be laid at the doorstep of Islam, and what the message > is; whether you want to accept that or not. (The same thing took place one > thousand, eleven hundred, twelve hundred years ago that transpired in the > 21st Century. > > As a side-note, one need only look and remember the Islamic culture in > Eastern Europe. By example, we saw how Muslims lived a fairly western > lifestyle in what is now the former Yugoslavia. Today, if you were to > visit that region, *e.g.*; Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, the > Republica Srpska; and see the ethnic cleansing.....Not the ethnic cleansing > purportedly by Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs, but by fellow Muslims, > those that are both Sunni and Shia. The divergence, is exactly what I have > been espousing, that what many term, "Fundamentalists" or "radical" > Islamists, but my point being, is that those that are more "orthodox" > Muslims are in fact killing those Muslims who have adopted what folks like > Pluto and Plain Ol perceive as a "moderate", western way of life! The fact, > is that Islam is now, and always has been incompatible with Western > Culture. > > There is an independent, free lance journalist by the name of Michael > Totten. I don't know this guy, but from his writings, I am convinced that > his political persuasion would be anything but "conservative". My point > being, is that this gentleman is a young man, who does not seem to be > influenced by any national political movement, and his writings are just > downright fascinating! It is a cross between a cheap, "dime store > thriller-novel" like Stewart Woods sometimes writes, and a National > Geographic expose'! I encourage you to check out his blog, the writings > on his trips with his high school buddy, Sean are humorous, exciting, and > enlightening to say the least. Here is the link to his site: > > http://www.michaeltotten.com/ > > Here are some links to what I consider to be some rather interesting > travels, and some that might be enlightening as well as entertaining; these > are of his travels back to Bosnia/Herznogovinia back in 2008: > > http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/06/a-dark-corner-o.php > > http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/06/a-dark-corner-o-1.php > > http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001119.html > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:54 AM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_8840798434030785324_m_2018778923427624952_digest_top> > Preparedness Advantages of Holding on to Your Older Vehicle > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/6b21046424c5488c?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Travis <[email protected]>: Jun 02 08:20AM -0500 > > > <http://readynutrition.com/resources/preparedness-advantages-of-holding-on-to-your-older-vehicle_01062016/> > > -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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