As a proud Veteran
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so you're a fucking warmonger.
those who choose war are the first to die.

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 10:50:01 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> As a proud Veteran, I will compare my acts of Patriotism against yours any 
> day of the week, Pussy....
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:47 AM, plainolamerican <plainol...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> How do you justify your Anti-Semitism
>> ---
>> I don't have anything against semites .. but you do.
>>
>> Sem·ite
>> ˈsemīt/
>> *noun*
>>
>>    1. a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic 
>>    language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.
>>    
>>
>>  ... and you're pos zionist xian and a traitor.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> Besides not being all that well informed, (you've made clear where you 
>>> obtain your news and who your sources are);  it's dawned on me the last six 
>>> or ten months that you're really not all that bright....
>>>
>>> How do you justify your Anti-Semitism with your obvious support for the 
>>> likes of George Soros, the Democratic Party; and those who subscribe to the 
>>> entire Jewish Socialistic/Communistic theorem?
>>>
>>> That's got to be perplexing for you, even though it's abundantly clear 
>>> that you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer......
>>>
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:35 AM, plainolamerican <plainol...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> believe your own lies often?
>>>>
>>>> [image: Image result for US zionist christians]
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 10:15:01 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.....You do.  Your far left Anti-American rhetoric on a daily basis 
>>>>> establishes who you support, much less your choice for candidates:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Your 2016 Presidential Picks
>>>>> To: PoliticalForum <politic...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Candidates you side with...
>>>>>
>>>>> 89%
>>>>> [image: Hillary Clinton]Hillary Clinton  Democratic
>>>>>
>>>>> on economic, domestic policy, healthcare, social, education, and 
>>>>> environmental issues.
>>>>> compare answers
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:801556209>
>>>>>
>>>>> 82%
>>>>> [image: Bernie Sanders]Bernie Sanders  Democratic
>>>>>
>>>>> on environmental, domestic policy, healthcare, social, and economic 
>>>>> issues.
>>>>> compare answers
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:801556211>
>>>>>
>>>>> 61%
>>>>> [image: John Kasich]John Kasich  Republican
>>>>>
>>>>> on environmental and electoral issues.
>>>>> compare answers
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:585676237>
>>>>>
>>>>> 56% 
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:801556201>
>>>>> [image: Jeb Bush] 
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:801556201>Jeb
>>>>>  
>>>>> Bush  Republican 
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:801556201>
>>>>>
>>>>> on healthcare, immigration, and criminal issues.
>>>>> compare answers 
>>>>> <http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/1840736686:801556201>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>> plainol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  the woman who you support for POTUS
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> wrong agian ... I don't vote for democrats or republicans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump courts Republican Jews with offensive stereotypes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WASHINGTON – Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on 
>>>>>> Thursday invoked a series of stereotypes about Jews that are often 
>>>>>> deemed 
>>>>>> offensive and even anti-Semitic — in an address to Jewish Republicans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “I’m a negotiator like you folks were negotiators,” the controversial 
>>>>>> candidate declared to his audience at the Republican Jewish Coalition, 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> he explained that he would broker a stronger nuclear deal with Iran than 
>>>>>> the one concluded earlier this year. At another point in his speech, he 
>>>>>> said: “Is there anyone in this room who doesn’t negotiate deals? 
>>>>>> Probably 
>>>>>> more than any room I’ve ever spoken.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His speech came at the tail end of a morning of addresses in which 
>>>>>> the other Republican candidates boasted of their pro-Israel credentials 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> their close ties to the US Jewish community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although Trump did reiterate his tight ties with his “friend” Prime 
>>>>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the audience wasn’t tolerant of the mogul’s 
>>>>>> attempts to duck a question on Jerusalem. Asked about his position on 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> unification of the Israeli capital, Trump refused to commit – as most 
>>>>>> Republican candidates have – to declaring the city to be the eternal 
>>>>>> capital of the Jewish state, and was greeted with boos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the audience did not offer any negative response when Trump 
>>>>>> told them, “You’re not gonna support me even though you know I’m the 
>>>>>> best 
>>>>>> thing that could ever happen to Israel. And I’ll be that.” He continued, 
>>>>>> evoking a stereotype about Jews, money and control, “And I know why 
>>>>>> you’re 
>>>>>> not going to support me. You’re not going to support me because I don’t 
>>>>>> want your money. Isn’t it crazy?”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to AP, he added: “You want to control your own politician.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump backtracked on comments that he made Wednesday in which he 
>>>>>> suggested that Israelis could sacrifice more than they had already for 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> sake of peace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “It has to be said that Israel has given a lot,” he acknowledged. “I 
>>>>>> don’t know whether or not they want to go that final step, you know, and 
>>>>>> that’s going to be up to them. But Israel has not been given the credit 
>>>>>> that they deserve for what they’ve done, I will say that. I will say 
>>>>>> that.” 
>>>>>> At the same time, he added that he didn’t know “if Israel has the 
>>>>>> commitment to make [a deal with the Palestinians]” or “if the other side 
>>>>>> has the commitment to make it.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump, who previously questioned whether President Barack Obama was 
>>>>>> born a US citizen, also reiterated insinuations that the president was 
>>>>>> hiding something, implying that perhaps he is crypto-Muslim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Radical Islamic terrorism — we have a president who refuses to use 
>>>>>> the term,” he complained. “There’s something going on with him that we 
>>>>>> don’t know about.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earlier Thursday, the head of the Republican Party in Israel said 
>>>>>> that Trump should not not be the president of the United States. 
>>>>>> Speaking 
>>>>>> on Army Radio, Marc Zell said that American voters would be sure to 
>>>>>> recognize that the candidate did not possess the necessary qualities to 
>>>>>> lead his country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “The voters understand that to lead the United States, you need a 
>>>>>> person who knows more than how to sell products, with all due respect to 
>>>>>> Donald Trump, and everything he has achieved in his career,” Zell said. 
>>>>>> “In 
>>>>>> my opinion, he cannot be president of the United States.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 9:16:34 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plain Ol?  How is it that you can obfuscate and totally ignore the 
>>>>>>> fact that the woman who you support for POTUS is an Open Borders/Open 
>>>>>>> Trade" far left liberal extremist, who has championed increasing Syrian 
>>>>>>> Rebels/Refugees by 550%?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nevermind.  It's really quite clear when one thinks about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:52 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>> plainol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Hillary Clinton’s “Open Borders” Dream*
>>>>>>>> *---*
>>>>>>>> RELIGIOUS 'CHARITIES' PROFIT FROM OPEN BORDERS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thousands of Central American children crossing the border 
>>>>>>>> illegally could soon turn into asylum seekers armed with immigration 
>>>>>>>> lawyers provided by church groups and paid for by federal tax dollars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WND reported Friday 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/church-raising-money-for-illegals/> that 
>>>>>>>> Catholic Charities USA and other religious groups were working behind 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> scenes with the federal government to temporarily house and resettle 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> children in dozens of communities across the United States.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Catholic Charities is running a fundraising campaign to help 
>>>>>>>> finance the resettlement of the illegal aliens, WND reported. But the 
>>>>>>>> religious charities get the bulk of their funding not from private 
>>>>>>>> donors 
>>>>>>>> or church members putting checks into a basket. They get it from the 
>>>>>>>> federal government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexandria, Va.-based Catholic Charities USA reported receiving 
>>>>>>>> $1.7 million in government grants in 2012, according to its IRS 
>>>>>>>> Form 990 
>>>>>>>> <http://catholiccharitiesusa.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/CCUSA-2013-990.pdf>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But one of the largest recipients of government funds to resettle 
>>>>>>>> immigrant children is the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. The 
>>>>>>>> USCCB 
>>>>>>>> helps resettle not only unaccompanied alien children, or UACs, who 
>>>>>>>> enter 
>>>>>>>> the country illegally but also refugees fleeing persecution overseas 
>>>>>>>> who 
>>>>>>>> enter through legal channels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The USCCB is one of nine agencies that receive hundreds of millions 
>>>>>>>> in tax dollars to resettle refugees and asylum seekers in the U.S. 
>>>>>>>> under 
>>>>>>>> contract with the federal government. Six of the nine contractors are 
>>>>>>>> religious groups, WND has learned, including the Lutheran Immigration 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> Refugee Service, Episcopal Migration Ministries, the Hebrew Immigrant 
>>>>>>>> Aid 
>>>>>>>> Society, the Church World Service and World Relief Corp., which 
>>>>>>>> includes a 
>>>>>>>> plethora of evangelical groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Catholic Bishops alone received $65.9 million in federal grants 
>>>>>>>> to care for unaccompanied alien children and refugees, according to 
>>>>>>>> its 2012 
>>>>>>>> annual report 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.usccb.org/about/migration-and-refugee-services/upload/Annual-Report-2012.pdf>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By contrast, the group raised $1.4 million from its own church 
>>>>>>>> members while federal loans and private-sector grants made up the 
>>>>>>>> remainder 
>>>>>>>> of the $71 million spent on the resettlements that year. That means 93 
>>>>>>>> percent of the USCCB’s spending on charity work with UACs and refugees 
>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>> covered by the American taxpayer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kevin Appleby, director of USCC’s Migration and Refugee Services 
>>>>>>>> Office, did not respond to calls and emails from WND seeking comment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Similar funding ratios have been found to be the norm with the 
>>>>>>>> Lutheran effort.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service reported total income 
>>>>>>>> of $41.7 million in 2012, and government grants accounted for $40.4 
>>>>>>>> million, or 96.8 percent of that amount, according to the nonprofit’s 
>>>>>>>> most 
>>>>>>>> recently reported Form 990 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2012/132/574/2012-132574854-0989f698-9.pdf>,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> a disclosure that nonprofits must file with the Internal Revenue 
>>>>>>>> Service. 
>>>>>>>> The group raised only $1.3 million from private donors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Miji Bell, press spokeswoman for Lutheran Immigration, also did not 
>>>>>>>> return calls Tuesday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The money for refugees and asylum seekers may not even include the 
>>>>>>>> federal money funneled to Catholic Charities USA and other religious 
>>>>>>>> groups 
>>>>>>>> to resettle illegal border crossers coming into Texas, Arizona or New 
>>>>>>>> Mexico who arrive by themselves. The charities often subcontract with 
>>>>>>>> other 
>>>>>>>> charities, making it difficult to track the money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The numbers of UACs coming through the Southern border have 
>>>>>>>> increased dramatically since 2009, and so have the costs, according to 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> Office of Refugee Resettlement, which operates within the Department 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> Health and Human Services.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eight years ago, the program averaged 6,775 referrals a year. In 
>>>>>>>> fiscal 2013 the number reached 24,668. Now, the agency is expecting 
>>>>>>>> 60,000 
>>>>>>>> referrals in 2014 at a cost to the U.S. government of more than $750 
>>>>>>>> million, up from less than $500 million in 2013 and less than $250 
>>>>>>>> million 
>>>>>>>> in 2009.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The University of Texas at El Paso’s National Center for Border 
>>>>>>>> Security and Immigration conducted a study 
>>>>>>>> <http://ncbsi.utep.edu/documents/UAC%20Project%20Site%20Visits/UTEP%20NCBSI%20Final%20Report%20March%2020%202014.pdf>
>>>>>>>>  published 
>>>>>>>> in March in which it laid bare the major cause of the problem – 
>>>>>>>> exploitation of weak border enforcement policies by the U.S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “Both Border Patrol and ICE ERO officers agreed that the lack of 
>>>>>>>> deterrence for crossing the U.S.-Mexican border has impacted the rate 
>>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>>> which they apprehend UACs. Officers are certain that UACs are aware of 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> relative lack of consequences they will receive when apprehended at 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> U.S. border,” the authors wrote on page 3 of the UTEP study. “UTEP was 
>>>>>>>> informed that smugglers of family members of UACs understand that once 
>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>> UAC is apprehended for illegal entry into the United States, the 
>>>>>>>> individual 
>>>>>>>> will be re-united with a U.S. based family member pending the 
>>>>>>>> disposition 
>>>>>>>> of the immigration hearing. This process appears to be exploited by 
>>>>>>>> illegal 
>>>>>>>> alien smugglers and family members in the United States who wish to 
>>>>>>>> reunite 
>>>>>>>> with separated children.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many of the Central American children will seek asylum is not 
>>>>>>>> clear at this point. The United Nations is considering granting some 
>>>>>>>> type 
>>>>>>>> of legal status to children in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras who 
>>>>>>>> can 
>>>>>>>> show evidence of being persecuted. An asylum seeker differs from a 
>>>>>>>> refugee 
>>>>>>>> in that the person comes into the U.S. on his own, often crossing the 
>>>>>>>> border illegally, and then seeks to gain asylum through legal channels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Included in President Obama’s $3.7 billion emergency aid package 
>>>>>>>> for dealing with the border crisis is $1.1 million for immigration 
>>>>>>>> lawyers 
>>>>>>>> to represent the illegal alien children. Another $1.8 billion would go 
>>>>>>>> toward resettling the children as opposed to deporting them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don Barnett, a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies, said 
>>>>>>>> he would like to see the feds rein in the grants and loans to 
>>>>>>>> charities 
>>>>>>>> that resettle refugees and UACs seeking asylum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The federal government gives out not only grants but loans, and the 
>>>>>>>> nonprofit charities are able to pocket 25 percent of whatever they 
>>>>>>>> collect 
>>>>>>>> on those loans, Barnett explained. He said many of the loans are made 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> refugees or UACs for travel purposes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “They actually hire collection agents to get the money back from 
>>>>>>>> the refugees,” he said. “It’s very profitable for the nonprofits, 
>>>>>>>> really 
>>>>>>>> quite profitable, and it has introduced perverse incentives into the 
>>>>>>>> whole 
>>>>>>>> process, into decision making and policy,” he said. “It totally 
>>>>>>>> disincentivizes rational thinking.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These same religious charities can also be found lobbying Congress 
>>>>>>>> and the Obama administration for amnesty legislation and other 
>>>>>>>> policies 
>>>>>>>> that immigration watchdogs see as encouraging more illegal immigrants 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> cross the border.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On July 2 the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a letter  
>>>>>>>> <http://www.usccb.org/news/2014/14-118.cfm>to Obama urging him not 
>>>>>>>> to send any of the unaccompanied children who had illegally crossed 
>>>>>>>> into 
>>>>>>>> the U.S. back to their home countries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “Current law permits children from non-contiguous countries to 
>>>>>>>> remain in the country until their request for asylum or immigration 
>>>>>>>> relief 
>>>>>>>> is considered by an immigration judge,” said Eusebio Elizondo, 
>>>>>>>> auxiliary 
>>>>>>>> bishop of Seattle and chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic 
>>>>>>>> Bishops’ 
>>>>>>>> Committee on Migration. “This is a very vulnerable population which 
>>>>>>>> has 
>>>>>>>> been targeted by organized crime networks in Central America. To 
>>>>>>>> return 
>>>>>>>> them to these criminal elements without a proper adjudication of their 
>>>>>>>> cases is unconscionable.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And in 2011, the Catholic Bishops advocated for passage 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=15398>
>>>>>>>>  of 
>>>>>>>> the DREAM Act, which would provide permanent legal status, some call 
>>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>>> amnesty, to young people under 35 brought into the U.S. illegally by 
>>>>>>>> their 
>>>>>>>> parents if they had been here in the country since the age of 16 or 
>>>>>>>> younger, provided they had completed two years of college or military 
>>>>>>>> service.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Conflicts of interest?*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan Cadman, with the Center for Immigration Studies, says it’s a 
>>>>>>>> conflict of interest for a group that benefits financially from 
>>>>>>>> immigration 
>>>>>>>> – both legal and illegal – to try to influence immigration policy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “It bothers me that any private organization is using a government 
>>>>>>>> funding stream for that purpose, not only Catholic Charities but 
>>>>>>>> Lutheran 
>>>>>>>> World Service, the Episcopal Church, they’ve all got their hands in 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> pie,” Cadman said. “The thing is that everyone understands that, with 
>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>> wink and a nod, this so-called emergency money (from Obama) is not 
>>>>>>>> going to 
>>>>>>>> result in any substantial number of individuals being deported. It’s 
>>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>>> not. How ironic to see an emergency budget supplemental request and 
>>>>>>>> then 
>>>>>>>> when you look at the details you see it’s all going to be chewed up 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> things like brick and mortar buildings for resettlement and not used 
>>>>>>>> in any 
>>>>>>>> useful way to stop this tidal wave of human beings.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cadman said there is “no doubt in my mind” that the religious NGOs 
>>>>>>>> or “non-governmental organizations” are working with the United 
>>>>>>>> Nations to 
>>>>>>>> get the children qualified as refugees or asylum seekers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “The religious charities have had a hand in that,” he said. 
>>>>>>>> “There’s no doubt in my mind they are looking to afford people status 
>>>>>>>> in 
>>>>>>>> any way, shape or form because the end game is to not get them sent 
>>>>>>>> back to 
>>>>>>>> their country of origin.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Children don’t qualify as refugees*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank Head Jr., director of Immigration Services for Catholic 
>>>>>>>> Charities of Arkansas, said the Central American children would not 
>>>>>>>> qualify 
>>>>>>>> as refugees under the current United Nations definition, but it’s not 
>>>>>>>> out 
>>>>>>>> of the question that a special legal status could be created for the 
>>>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “There’s no easy pat answer to that,” he told WND. “They will not 
>>>>>>>> get refugee status. That’s never been the case. There is a special set 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> regulations for children not accompanied by parents, but no immediate 
>>>>>>>> status. They get put into a special adjudication system. They never 
>>>>>>>> get 
>>>>>>>> called ‘refugees’ but there is a category, a process where a juvenile 
>>>>>>>> who 
>>>>>>>> is basically an orphan with no family to claim them could get a 
>>>>>>>> certain 
>>>>>>>> status (as an asylum seeker) after a lengthy court battle.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That court battle could be fought with federally funded lawyers, a 
>>>>>>>> development even more likely if Obama’s $3.7 billion in emergency aid 
>>>>>>>> gets 
>>>>>>>> passed by Congress.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “The actual answer, everyone wants to know (about the status), but 
>>>>>>>> the Obama administration has proposed a new set of regulations and 
>>>>>>>> $3.7 
>>>>>>>> billion to fund it,” Head said. “A juvenile, aside from the fact that 
>>>>>>>> they 
>>>>>>>> get special treatment if caught, and only in recent years have they 
>>>>>>>> been 
>>>>>>>> afforded that special status – they used to get thrown into adult 
>>>>>>>> jails – 
>>>>>>>> they now get treated as a juvenile. But there isn’t any immediate 
>>>>>>>> status. 
>>>>>>>> Definitely there is intensive meetings going on to possibly create 
>>>>>>>> some new 
>>>>>>>> status because the current refugee law doesn’t apply. They couldn’t 
>>>>>>>> qualify.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s because a refuge by definition is someone who has been 
>>>>>>>> pre-screened by the U.N. and then allowed to legally enter a host 
>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “But these kids for the most part don’t qualify as refugees because 
>>>>>>>> you have to be part of a designated group facing political or 
>>>>>>>> religious 
>>>>>>>> persecution, but these are just kids fleeing from violence. They’re 
>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>> running off all right-wing children or all left-wing children or 
>>>>>>>> government-inclined children,” Head said. “It’s not a religious sect, 
>>>>>>>> it’s 
>>>>>>>> not a political group, so they wouldn’t qualify for asylum status and 
>>>>>>>> so 
>>>>>>>> you would ultimately just ship them back and that’s what a lot of 
>>>>>>>> people 
>>>>>>>> want to do. You have a pretty good idea who that is.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Head said he doesn’t expect the Obama package to pass the 
>>>>>>>> Republican-dominated House.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pursuing the U.N.’s channels would be a totally separate approach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “That would have to be for people who hadn’t entered the country 
>>>>>>>> yet,” Head said. “The U.N. would have to setup an office in say 
>>>>>>>> Guatemala 
>>>>>>>> or El Salvador and you could come there, make a case and possibly get 
>>>>>>>> refugee status and get a safe place to come. Even if the U.N. approves 
>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>> it doesn’t mean the U.S. will let you in. But if someone’s already 
>>>>>>>> here you 
>>>>>>>> have to apply for asylum status.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He said the U.S. lets in 75,000 to 85,000 foreign refugees a year. 
>>>>>>>> “And at any given time there’s several million in the world.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is separate from the unaccompanied alien children who 
>>>>>>>> illegally cross the border and offer themselves up to be apprehended 
>>>>>>>> by 
>>>>>>>> Border Patrol agents then get turned over the Health and Human 
>>>>>>>> Services and 
>>>>>>>> given a piece of paper ordering them to appear at a deportation 
>>>>>>>> hearing two 
>>>>>>>> to three years down the road.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read more at 
>>>>>>>> http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/religious-charities-profit-from-open-borders/#S3JjHEIbWJ61tGx8.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 8:39:39 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thursday, 13 October 2016 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Will Hillary Clinton’s “Open Borders” Dream End Up Deciding 
>>>>>>>>> Election — for Trump? *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Written by  William F. Jasper 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/itemlist/user/53-williamfjasper>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Will Hillary Clinton’s “Open Borders” Dream 
>>>>>>>>> End Up Deciding Election — for Trump?] 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/88753bd16644c0558ada2e5c88abfccd_XL.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton’s campaign strategists surely breathed a huge sigh 
>>>>>>>>> of relief when the 2nd Presidential Debate 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/24245-media-s-anti-trump-bias-obvious-in-second-presidential-debate>ended
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> without any mention of Clinton’s “open borders” comments, which had 
>>>>>>>>> recently been released by WikiLeaks. They know that, as with the 
>>>>>>>>> Brexit vote 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/23501-independence-day-historic-brexit-victory-uk-votes-to-leave-eu>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> in the UK in June, the deadly reality of “open borders” could end up 
>>>>>>>>> having 
>>>>>>>>> a much greater impact on Election Day than the pro-Hillary media 
>>>>>>>>> polls are 
>>>>>>>>> showing. British voters revolted against the massive “Project 
>>>>>>>>> Fear” campaign 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/23488-brexit-crunch-time-cameron-co-ratchet-up-project-fear-before-vote>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> waged by Prime Minister David Cameron, President Obama, and virtually 
>>>>>>>>> all 
>>>>>>>>> of the British political, banking, academic, and media establishment. 
>>>>>>>>> British voters demanded a return of their independence and 
>>>>>>>>> sovereignty. 
>>>>>>>>> Especially, they demanded control over their own borders, defying the 
>>>>>>>>> European Union’s claim of the right to decide who (and how many) may 
>>>>>>>>> migrate to Britain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, Team Hillary’s strategists were undoubtedly relieved when 
>>>>>>>>> CNN’s Anderson Cooper and ABC’s Martha Raddatz did them a big favor 
>>>>>>>>> in the 
>>>>>>>>> second presidential debate last Sunday by saving their candidate from 
>>>>>>>>> having to face her record and policies on open borders, immigration, 
>>>>>>>>> refugees, illegal alien amnesty, and trade treaties. Specifically, 
>>>>>>>>> Cooper 
>>>>>>>>> and Raddatz made sure nobody brought up the matter of Hillary 
>>>>>>>>> Clinton’s 
>>>>>>>>> speech to Brazilian bankers in which she told of her “dream” of an 
>>>>>>>>> EU-style 
>>>>>>>>> hemispheric union of “open trade and open borders.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The “open borders” speech was one of many Clinton bombshells to be 
>>>>>>>>> dropped by the WikiLeaks organization, in a dump of thousands of 
>>>>>>>>> hacked 
>>>>>>>>> e-mails, two days before the debate. It goes to the heart of a timely 
>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>> vital issue that millions of American voters consider very important. 
>>>>>>>>> However, Cooper and Raddatz were intent on avoiding the open borders 
>>>>>>>>> issue 
>>>>>>>>> and insisted on obsessing instead on the conveniently leaked video of 
>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump’s vulgar comments from more than a decade ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specifically, in a speech to the Brazilian megabank, Banco Itau, 
>>>>>>>>> Mrs. Clinton said: "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with 
>>>>>>>>> open 
>>>>>>>>> trade and open borders, sometime in the future with energy that's as 
>>>>>>>>> green 
>>>>>>>>> and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for 
>>>>>>>>> every 
>>>>>>>>> person in the hemisphere."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The social chaos, terrorism, debt, banking crisis, currency 
>>>>>>>>> crisis, and other crises under which the European common market is 
>>>>>>>>> disintegrating, offer little to commend the European Union as a 
>>>>>>>>> hemispheric 
>>>>>>>>> model for Americans. The ongoing migration tsunami that is wracking 
>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>> ruining the EU gives us a pretty good picture of what “open borders” 
>>>>>>>>> look 
>>>>>>>>> like. Europeans are finding out that the ugly reality is far 
>>>>>>>>> different from 
>>>>>>>>> the rosy pictures painted for decades by their politicians — 
>>>>>>>>> politicians of 
>>>>>>>>> the same internationalist mold as Hillary Clinton. Borders matter; if 
>>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>>> don’t have them you can’t enforce them, and you don’t really even 
>>>>>>>>> have a 
>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton is extremely vulnerable on this issue, even if we 
>>>>>>>>> do not experience another terror attack by Islamic extremists in this 
>>>>>>>>> country before the November election.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clinton has leapfrogged over her former boss, President Obama, and 
>>>>>>>>> called for an even more radical Syrian refugee policy than his very 
>>>>>>>>> unpopular program. In fact, she called for more than six times the 
>>>>>>>>> number 
>>>>>>>>> of refugees proposed by Obama. In a 2015 interview, she said the 
>>>>>>>>> United 
>>>>>>>>> States should accept 65,000 refugees from Syria; President Obama’s 
>>>>>>>>> Syrian 
>>>>>>>>> refugee plan, at the time, was for 10,000.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "We're facing the worst refugee crisis since the end of World War 
>>>>>>>>> II and I think the United States has to do more," the former 
>>>>>>>>> secretary of 
>>>>>>>>> state said on CBS's *Face the Nation*. 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-u-s-should-take-65000-syrian-refugees/>
>>>>>>>>>  "I 
>>>>>>>>> would like to see us move from what is a good start with 10,000 to 
>>>>>>>>> 65,000 
>>>>>>>>> and begin immediately to put into place the mechanisms for vetting 
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> people that we would take in."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course, the “mechanisms for vetting people” comment was an 
>>>>>>>>> obligatory throwaway line meant to placate voters’ national security 
>>>>>>>>> concerns. But it was totally devoid of content, since our top 
>>>>>>>>> security officials have repeatedly pointed out 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/21638-no-vetting-of-syrian-refugees-in-obama-s-resettlement-invasion>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> there is no way for us to properly vet these “refugees.” However, the 
>>>>>>>>> refugee issue is only one part of Hillary’s “open borders” equation; 
>>>>>>>>> she 
>>>>>>>>> has also spent a political lifetime — as first lady, senator, 
>>>>>>>>> secretary of 
>>>>>>>>> state, Clinton Foundation chieftess — promoting and supporting 
>>>>>>>>> <http://correctrecord.org/hillary-clinton-and-immigration/>illegal 
>>>>>>>>> alien amnesty, increased immigration, entitlements of every kind for 
>>>>>>>>> immigrants (legal and illegal) and fast-track citizenship, and 
>>>>>>>>> fast-track 
>>>>>>>>> voting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beyond the refugee/migrant/immigrant matters that are big-ticket 
>>>>>>>>> items for the large pool of voters Donald Trump is aiming at, there 
>>>>>>>>> is the 
>>>>>>>>> “open trade” and “hemispheric common market” component that crosses 
>>>>>>>>> party 
>>>>>>>>> and ideological lines, energizing huge numbers of conservative 
>>>>>>>>> Republicans, 
>>>>>>>>> Ron Paul Libertarians, and Bernie Sanders Democrats and Independents. 
>>>>>>>>> To 
>>>>>>>>> this broad swath of Americans, the WikiLeaks “open borders” leak 
>>>>>>>>> confirms 
>>>>>>>>> Hillary’s firm commitment to the deadly trade deals such as the 
>>>>>>>>> Trans-Pacific 
>>>>>>>>> Partnership (TPP) and Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership 
>>>>>>>>> (TTIP) 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/21010-10-reasons-why-you-should-oppose-obamatrade>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the past year and a half, Hillary has been trying to convince 
>>>>>>>>> voters that despite her role in helping craft the TPP and TTIP (as 
>>>>>>>>> secretary of state), publicly praising it more than 45 times (as 
>>>>>>>>> even the pro-Clinton CNN notes 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/15/politics/45-times-secretary-clinton-pushed-the-trade-bill-she-now-opposes/>),
>>>>>>>>>  and 
>>>>>>>>> having described the TPP as the “gold standard” of trade agreements. 
>>>>>>>>> Much 
>>>>>>>>> of the opposition to the TPP, the TTIP, and other multilateral 
>>>>>>>>> "trade" 
>>>>>>>>> agreements of this type has focused on the enormous economic harm 
>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>> NAFTA has done, especially in terms of millions of lost jobs and the 
>>>>>>>>> loss 
>>>>>>>>> of America's once world-dominant manufacturing and technology base. 
>>>>>>>>> Equally 
>>>>>>>>> important, though less understood, however, are the numerous attacks 
>>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>>> national sovereignty woven into the fabrics of NAFTA, TPP, and TTIP. 
>>>>>>>>> Like 
>>>>>>>>> the various treaties that have incrementally transformed the EU into 
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> centralized and increasingly tyrannical behemoth it has become, these 
>>>>>>>>> regional "trade" treaties actually establish bodies with legislative, 
>>>>>>>>> executive, and judicial functions that are designed to gradually 
>>>>>>>>> transform 
>>>>>>>>> into a regional government that will override our own 
>>>>>>>>> constitutionally 
>>>>>>>>> limited government. Hillary Clinton is well aware of these dangers 
>>>>>>>>> that she 
>>>>>>>>> has helped build into the TPP and TTIP. The believability of her 
>>>>>>>>> convenient 
>>>>>>>>> flip-flop on this crucial issue is about zero; she can be counted on 
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> flip again, if she gets to the Oval Office. Her current anti-TPP 
>>>>>>>>> stance is 
>>>>>>>>> most certainly her “public position,” at the moment, but what does 
>>>>>>>>> she 
>>>>>>>>> really intend to do on the matter? One of the other inconvenient (for 
>>>>>>>>> Clinton) WikiLeaks revelations concerned her admission of duplicity, 
>>>>>>>>> in one 
>>>>>>>>> of her high-paid speeches to high-end investors, asserting that 
>>>>>>>>> politicians 
>>>>>>>>> need to be two-faced, having "both a public and a private position."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Project Fear/Project Smear*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The political/business/media/academic elites that targeted the 
>>>>>>>>> Brexit vote for defeat with “Project Fear” are the same combined 
>>>>>>>>> forces that have targeted Donald Trump with Project Smear 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/23440-bilderberg-elites-stop-trump-boost-hillary-stop-brexit-boost-migration>.
>>>>>>>>>  Following 
>>>>>>>>> the Brexit victory, an obviously chastened Richard Haass, president 
>>>>>>>>> of the 
>>>>>>>>> world government-promoting, pro-EU, pro-open borders Council on 
>>>>>>>>> Foreign Relations 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/1213-council-on-foreign-relations>
>>>>>>>>>  (CFR), 
>>>>>>>>> commented 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-brexit-warning-trump-2016-6>:
>>>>>>>>>  "For 
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton's campaign, this is something of a warning not to 
>>>>>>>>> underestimate this disaffection, not to underestimate political and 
>>>>>>>>> economic nationalism."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton, who, while secretary of state, famously said (in 
>>>>>>>>> the presence of her “good friend” Richard Haass) that she depended 
>>>>>>>>> upon the 
>>>>>>>>> CFR to tell her what to do and what to think (see video of her 
>>>>>>>>> confession 
>>>>>>>>> here 
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/15288-cfr-brookings-celebrate-obama-lovefest-for-international-criminal-court>),
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> is obviously listening to the advice of Haass. She has flip-flopped 
>>>>>>>>> on TPP 
>>>>>>>>> and has sort of flip-flopped on migration-refugees. She is trying to 
>>>>>>>>> appeal 
>>>>>>>>> to all sides; appealing for the Hispanic/immigrant vote by supporting 
>>>>>>>>> “comprehensive immigration reform” — the longtime code phrase for 
>>>>>>>>> amnesty 
>>>>>>>>> and open borders — while at the same time attempting to appeal to 
>>>>>>>>> Middle 
>>>>>>>>> America by insisting she intends to implement stringent vetting of 
>>>>>>>>> refugees/immigrants. The open question is how many American voters 
>>>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>>>> believe her new “public position” on open borders — and how many will 
>>>>>>>>> believe — or be influenced by/distracted by — Project Smear.
>>>>>>>>>
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