What is the source of that particular passage plainole? --- it comes from an old fictional book about a homophobic, misogynist, and murderous god that's followed by subservient xians and jews. DEUTERONOMY 17:2 <https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Deuteronomy-17-2/>
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote: > > What is the source of that particular passage plainole? > > On Nov 30, 2016 11:27 AM, "plainolamerican" <plainol...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy >> God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of >> the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and >> served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of >> the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, >> and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be >> true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; >> 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have >> committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, >> and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. >> >> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 5:46:27 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://raymondibrahim.com/2016/11/17/break-cross-muhammad-commands/ >>> >>> >>> ‘Break the Cross!’ Muhammad Commands It >>> >>> 2016/11/17 by Raymond Ibrahim >>> <http://raymondibrahim.com/author/raymond-ibrahim/> 10 Comments >>> <http://raymondibrahim.com/2016/11/17/break-cross-muhammad-commands/#disqus_thread> >>> >>> >>> [image: Description: Description: 4]What more evidence is needed to >>> prove that Islam is at war with Christianity than its well documented >>> hatred for the quintessential symbol of Christianity: the Cross? >>> >>> This recently occurred to me as I was surfing Arabic language videos and >>> websites discussing Christianity—only to encounter one hostile video, >>> fatwa, or sermon after another against the cross. >>> >>> Only one seemingly spoke well of the cross—though for a reason that >>> again demonstrated Islam’s hostility for Christians. According to Al Azhar >>> professor Dr. Salim Abdul Galil >>> <http://raymondibrahim.com/2016/11/10/muslims-may-wear-cross-deceive-christians/>, >>> >>> Muslims can be tolerant of the cross—they can even wear and pray to it—but >>> only when in need of deceiving Christians, whom the learned professor >>> portrayed as the natural enemies of Muslims. >>> >>> The most telling video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOljg8G2fXU> >>> featured Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi, a Saudi expert on Islamic law. Asked >>> about Islam’s ruling on whether any person—meaning a Christian—is permitted >>> to wear or pray to the cross, the learned cleric explained: “Under no >>> circumstances is a human permitted to wear the cross” nor “is anyone >>> permitted to pray to the cross.” The reason? “Because the prophet—peace and >>> blessings on him—commanded the breaking of it [the cross].” >>> >>> [image: Description: Description: nm] >>> >>> Indeed, as with all of Islam’s hostilities, animosity for the cross >>> begins with Muhammad. He “had such a repugnance >>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=-jxbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA208&lpg=PA208&dq=%E2%80%9Chad+such+a+repugnance+to+the+form+of+the+cross+that+he+broke+everything+brought+into+his+house+with+its+figure+upon+it&source=bl&ots=C0Nyuuv6-2&sig=yJmfIrXPVNnHdgENFb3CEPHP6Mc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1AthVbZrhoWwBdGygaAP&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9Chad%20such%20a%20repugnance%20to%20the%20form%20of%20the%20cross%20that%20he%20broke%20everything%20brought%20into%20his%20house%20with%20its%20figure%20upon%20it&f=false> >>> to >>> the form of the cross that he broke everything brought into his house with >>> its figure upon it”; he once ordered someone wearing a cross to “take >>> off that piece of idolatry >>> <http://www.islamweb.net/hadith/display_hbook.php?bk_no=1196&pid=335340&hid=45>”; >>> >>> and he claimed that at the End Times, Isa (Islam’s version of Jesus) will >>> make it a point to “break the cross” as proof that Christians had gotten it >>> wrong all along. >>> >>> The reason for this animosity is that the cross symbolizes that which >>> Islam was developed in direct contradistinction to. As Sidney Griffith, >>> author of *The Church in the Shadow of the Mosque*, put it: “The cross >>> and the icons publicly declared those very points of Christian faith which >>> the Koran, in the Muslim view, explicitly denied: that Christ was the Son >>> of God and that he died on the cross.” Thus “the Christian practice of >>> venerating the cross and the icons of Christ and the saints often aroused >>> the disdain of Muslims,” so that there was an ongoing “campaign to erase >>> the public symbols of Christianity [in formerly Christian lands such as >>> Egypt and Syria], especially the previously ubiquitous sign of the cross.” >>> >>> According to the *Conditions of Omar* >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/western-ignorance-of-the-conditions-of-omar/>—a >>> >>> Medieval text which lays out the many humiliating stipulations conquered >>> Christians must embrace to preserve their lives and which Islamic history >>> attributes to the second “righteous caliph,” Omar al-Khattab—Christians are >>> “Not to display a cross [on churches]… and “Not to produce a cross or >>> [Christian] book in the markets of the Muslims.” >>> >>> During the televised Saudi program, cleric al-Tarifi explained that if >>> it is too difficult to break the cross—for instance, a large concrete >>> statue—Muslims should at least try to disfigure one of its four arms, “so >>> that it no longer resembles a cross.” >>> >>> We actually have much historic and numismatic evidence of this approach >>> going back to the century of Islam’s founding. Almost all of the gold >>> coins that belonged to the Christian Byzantine Empire had the image of the >>> cross on one side of them. After the Byzantine treasury was seized during >>> the Muslim conquests, the caliph ordered that one or two arms of the cross >>> be effaced, so that the image no longer resembles a cross. >>> >>> [image: Description: Description: coin]Left: Byzantine coin with cross, >>> c. 7th century. Right: After being manipulated by the Islamic caliphate. >>> >>> As for smaller crosses that Muslims could break, again, we have >>> testimonies from the very earliest invasions into Christian Syria of >>> Muslims systematically breaking every crucifix they encountered—to the >>> point that Christians were convinced that the invaders were demons, if not >>> worse. In the words of Anastasius of Sinai, who lived during the earliest >>> invasions: “Note well that the demons name the Saracens [Arabs/Muslims] as >>> their companions. And it is with reason. The latter are perhaps even >>> worse than the demons,” for whereas “the demons are frequently much afraid >>> of the mysteries of Christ”—among which he mentions crosses and >>> churches—“these demons of flesh trample all that under their feet, mock it, >>> set fire to it, destroy it.” >>> >>> Sophronius, the patriarch of Jerusalem when its walls were being sieged >>> by Muslims in 638, lamented: >>> >>> Why are the troops of the Saracens attacking us? Why has there been so >>> much destruction and plunder? Why are there incessant outpourings of human >>> blood? Why are the birds of the sky devouring human bodies? Why have >>> churches been pulled down? Why is the cross mocked? Why is Christ … >>> blasphemed by pagan mouths? >>> >>> Even Saladin (d. 1193)—regularly touted in the West for his >>> “magnanimity”—ordered “the removal of every cross from atop the dome of >>> every church in the provinces of Egypt,” according to *The History of >>> the Patriarchate of the Egyptian Church*. >>> >>> In light of the above, it should come as no surprise that the Islamic >>> State (“ISIS”) also exhibits hate for the crucifix. In its communiques >>> <https://ia801400.us.archive.org/34/items/mir225/English_Translation.pdf> >>> to the West >>> >>> , hostile reference to the cross is often made: “We will conquer your >>> Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women, by the permission of >>> Allah…. [We will cast] fear into the hearts of the cross worshippers….” >>> >>> [image: Description: Description: sx] >>> <https://ia801400.us.archive.org/34/items/mir225/English_Translation.pdf> >>> >>> Moreover, the Islamic State once disseminated a video showing its >>> members smashing crosses in and atop churches in territories under its >>> sway (since taken down by YouTube); it beheaded and stabbed a man with >>> his own crucifix; and it published pictures of its members destroying >>> Christian crosses and tombstones in cemeteries under its jurisdiction. >>> <https://ia801400.us.archive.org/34/items/mir225/English_Translation.pdf> >>> >>> In post “Arab Spring” Libya, now another ISIS-stronghold, a video of a >>> Muslim mob attacking a commonwealth cemetery near Benghazi appeared on the >>> internet. As the Muslims kicked down and destroyed headstones with crosses >>> on them, the man videotaping them urged them to “Break the cross of the >>> dogs!” while he and others cried “Allahu Akbar!” Towards the end of the >>> video, the mob congregated around the huge Cross of Sacrifice, the >>> cemetery’s cenotaph monument, and started to hammer at it in an effort to >>> disfigure the cross—to more cries of “Allahu Akbar.” Other Christian >>> cemeteries in post-“Arab Spring” Libya have suffered similarly. >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/islamic-state-sledgehammers-christian-gravestones-and-crosses-in-mosul/> >>> >>> Pictures emerged just the other day of a Christian cemetery in Iraq that >>> was vandalized by ISIS. Broken and scattered crosses appear. In one >>> picture, the jihadis broke into a coffin, snapped off the head of the >>> withered corpse and threw it and the crucifixes surrounding it on the >>> ground. >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/tripoli-islamists-desecrate-christian-cemetery/> >>> >>> Lest all this still seem aberrant—limited to some obscure saying of >>> Muhammad, or “ancient history,” or the doings of “radical” groups like >>> ISIS—below is a very partial list of examples of how the crucifix throws >>> “everyday” Muslims into savage paroxysms: >>> <http://raymondibrahim.com/2016/11/15/isis-breaks-christian-coffins-desecrates-corpses-crosses/> >>> >>> [image: Description: Description: aq] >>> <http://raymondibrahim.com/2016/11/15/isis-breaks-christian-coffins-desecrates-corpses-crosses/> >>> >>> *Pakistan: When a Muslim man saw Julie Aftab, a Christian woman, wearing >>> a cross around her neck, he attacked her, forced battery acid down her >>> throat, and splashed it on her face—permanently damaging her esophagus, >>> blinding her in one eye, and causing her to lose both eyelids and most of >>> her teeth. >>> <http://raymondibrahim.com/2016/11/15/isis-breaks-christian-coffins-desecrates-corpses-crosses/>* >>> >>> *Egypt: A young Coptic Christian woman named Mary was mauled to death >>> when her cross identified her as a Christian to Muslim Brotherhood >>> rioters. Before her, 17-year-old Ayman, a Coptic student, was strangled >>> and beaten to death by his Muslim teacher and some fellow students—for >>> refusing to obey the teacher’s orders to remove his cross. >>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172338/They-wanted-hang--thought-insult-Islam-I-lived-New-life-Pakistani-Christian-woman-suffered-savage-acid-attack-Muslim-man-thought-traitor.html>* >>> >>> [image: Description: Description: isis-695366] >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/muslim-brotherhood-savagely-murder-christian-woman/> >>> >>> Even in Muslim nations deemed “moderate,” violence provoked by the cross >>> is not uncommon: >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/muslim-brotherhood-savagely-murder-christian-woman/> >>> >>> *Malaysia: A Christian cemetery was attacked and desecrated in the >>> middle of the night by unknown persons in the Muslim majority >>> nation. Several crosses were destroyed, including by the use of “a heavy >>> tool to do the damage.” Separately, a Muslim mob rioted against a small >>> Protestant church due to the visible cross atop the building of worship. >>> It was quickly removed. >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/muslim-brotherhood-savagely-murder-christian-woman/>* >>> >>> *Maldives: Authorities had to rescue a female Christian teacher after >>> Muslim “parents threatened to tie and drag her off of the island” for >>> “preaching Christianity.” Her crime was to draw a compass—which was >>> mistakenly taken for a cross—as part of a geography lesson in class. >>> <http://www.fides.org/en/news/37690-ASIA_MALAYSIA_Forced_removal_of_a_cross_the_government_orders_an_investigation#.VTpTgyFViko>* >>> >>> *Turkey: A 12-year-old boy in Turkey wearing a silver cross necklace in >>> class was spit on and beat regularly by Muslim classmates and teachers. >>> <http://www.fides.org/en/news/37690-ASIA_MALAYSIA_Forced_removal_of_a_cross_the_government_orders_an_investigation#.VTpTgyFViko>* >>> >>> As Islam’s presence continues to grow in Europe, it should come as no >>> surprise that attacks on crosses are also on the rise: >>> <http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2012/February/Ex-Muslim-Boy-Clings-to-Faith-Despite-Beatings-/> >>> >>> *Italy: >>> <http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2012/February/Ex-Muslim-Boy-Clings-to-Faith-Despite-Beatings-/>* >>> >>> · A Moroccan migrant invaded an old church in Venice and >>> attacked its large, 300-year-old cross, breaking off one of its arms, while >>> shouting “All that is in a church is false!” >>> <http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2012/February/Ex-Muslim-Boy-Clings-to-Faith-Despite-Beatings-/> >>> >>> · A Muslim boy of African origin picked on, insulted, and >>> eventually beat a 12-year-old Catholic girl during school because she >>> was wearing a crucifix. <http://m.cawalisse.com/117370/07/14/22/40> >>> >>> · After yet another crucifix was destroyed in close proximity >>> to a populated mosque, the area’s mayor did not mince words concerning >>> the identity of the culprit(s): “Before we put a show of unity with >>> Muslims, let’s have them begin by respecting our civilization and our >>> culture.” >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/italy-muslim-beats-schoolgirl-for-wearing-crucifix/> >>> >>> *[image: Description: Description: cross_removed_from_church]France: >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-west-desensitized-to-islamic-violence/>* >>> >>> · A Muslim man committed major acts of vandalism inside two >>> churches. Along with twisting a massive bronze cross, he overturned and >>> broke two altars, the candelabras and lecterns, destroyed statues, tore >>> down a tabernacle, smashed in a sacristy door and even broke some >>> stained-glass windows. (Click for images.) >>> <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-west-desensitized-to-islamic-violence/> >>> >>> · Christian crosses and gravestones in a cemetery were damaged >>> and desecrated by a Muslim. After being apprehended, he was described >>> as follows: “The man repeats Muslim prayers over and over, he drools and >>> cannot be communicated with: his condition has been declared incompatible >>> with preliminary detention.” He was hospitalized as “mentally >>> unbalanced.” (See his handiwork.) >>> <http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.ca/2014/08/france-muslim-smashes-up-historic.html> >>> >>> *Germany: >>> <http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2015/04/france-unbalanced-muslim-destroys-215.html>* >>> >>> · A Muslim man who checked himself into a hospital for >>> treatment went into a sudden frenzy because there were “too many >>> crosses on the wall.” He called the nurse a “bitch” and “fascist” and >>> became physically aggressive. >>> <http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2015/04/france-unbalanced-muslim-destroys-215.html> >>> >>> · After Muslims were granted their own section at a cemetery, >>> and after being allowed to conduct distinctly Islamic ceremonies, these >>> same Muslims began demanding that Christian symbols and crosses in the >>> cemetery be removed or covered up during Islamic funerals. >>> <http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/germany-sick-turk-attacks-hospital-nurse-because-too-many-crosses-on-wall> >>> >>> Of course, Islamic hostility for the cross is only encouraged by some >>> Europeans themselves, who happily comply with Islam’s “sensitivities.” >>> <http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/germany-islamic-organisation-demands-crosses-be-covered-during-muslim-burials> >>> >>> *Spain: Real Madrid, a professional football (soccer) team stripped the >>> traditional Christian cross from its club crest as part of a deal with the >>> National Bank of Abu Dhabi—“so as not to offend Muslim sensibilities in the >>> United Arab Emirates.” >>> <http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/germany-islamic-organisation-demands-crosses-be-covered-during-muslim-burials>* >>> >>> *United Kingdom: Offensive crucifixes are being removed from prisons in >>> order not to offend Muslim inmates (who are further provided with food >>> baths for Islamic rituals). >>> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/real-madrid/11256833/Real-Madrid-lose-Christian-cross-from-club-crest-to-appease-Abu-Dhabi-bank.html>* >>> >>> *Germans in Jerusalem: At the request of their Muslim hosts, German >>> bishops are now removing their pectoral crosses when visiting the Temple >>> Mount. Bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm (Munich) rationalized his >>> capitulation by saying “we acted out of respect for the hosts” and >>> insisting that his decision is “not at all a denial of the cross, but a >>> response to the wish of the hosts.” >>> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/real-madrid/11256833/Real-Madrid-lose-Christian-cross-from-club-crest-to-appease-Abu-Dhabi-bank.html>* >>> >>> Such is the history and continuity of Islam’s hate for the cross—that >>> symbol which represents the heart of the Christian faith, including the >>> death and resurrection of Christ, which Islam strongly denounces as a >>> lie. Islam’s war on the cross began with Muhammad, was carried out by the >>> earliest caliphs and jihadis, and continues to this day by the new >>> “caliphate” and many “everyday” Muslims. >>> <http://www.kath.net/news/57271> >>> >>> Meanwhile, far from calling Islam out, Western liberal Christians >>> continue calling for more Muslim refugees and carrying signs proclaiming, >>> “I’m >>> Christian and I love the Qur’an.” <http://www.kath.net/news/57271> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> [image: Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>> >>> >>> >>> __._,_.___ >>> ------------------------------ >>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <beo...@westerndefense.net> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> Visit Your Group >>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMXY5MHZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0ODAzNzMxNDY-> >>> >>> >>> - New Members >>> >>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnYWhlczVxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDgwMzczMTQ2> >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> [image: Yahoo! 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