The West Bank and Gaza are funded from "taxes" collected and distributed by the Israelis --- http://www.chfinternational.org/node/32903
On Feb 16, 5:02 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote: > No, Israel does. The West Bank and Gaza are funded from "taxes" collected > and distributed by the Israelis. > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:33 PM, plainolamerican > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > it would harm the Palestinians far more > > --- > > why do you think that? > > you do realize that the US gives Israel $3 BILLION per year in cash, > > military advancements and intel > > it doesn't give the Pals any of those things > > > It is time to stop > > paying/supporting the terrorists on both sides > > --- > > I agree. > > let'em kill each other to oblivion like they have for thousands of > > years > > > On Feb 16, 3:41 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Since almost everything the Israelis and Palestinians come from that aid > > > dollar it would harm the Palestinians far more. It is time to stop > > > paying/supporting the terrorists on both sides. > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM, plainolamerican > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > let's see'em do it without US tax dollars > > > > > On Feb 16, 3:30 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The reverse is just as true. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, amah abdullah < > > amahabdul...@gmail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > This is indeed an extremely disturbing account of israeli > > terror. > > > > > > And I find it ironic that Americans, who pride themselves on > > upholding > > > > > > democracy and the rule of law, were debating a rescue bill intended > > to > > > > > > uplift the American economy while at the same time unquestioningly > > > > giving > > > > > > Israel 1.5 MILLION dollars a day with no regard to the horrors it > > has > > > > been > > > > > > perpetrating throughout it history. > > > > > > If you think Gaza was exceptional, that is only because we now > > > > have > > > > > > satellite news networks, and information is more readily > > disseminated > > > > > > nowadays. But the facts are indisputable: Israel has been > > inflicting > > > > > > unimaginable terror on the Palestinians for decades. > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:42 AM, AmericanBuilt.us < > > > > i...@americanbuilt.us>wrote: > > > > > > >> MARK, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TREASONOUSLY DEFENDING & SUPPORTING... > > > > > > >> THIS IS ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE OF ABSOLUTE COWARDS! > > > > > > >> ARMED "SOLDIERS" AFRAID OF WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND ELDERLY: > > > > > > >> US lawyers report on Israeli crimes in Gaza > > > > > > >> We are a delegation of eight American lawyers, members of the > > National > > > > > >> Lawyers Guild (NLG) in the United States, who have come here to > > the > > > > > >> Gaza Strip to assess the effects of the recent attacks on the > > people, > > > > > >> and to determine what, if any, violations of international law > > > > > >> occurred and whether United States domestic law has been violated > > as a > > > > > >> consequence. We spent five days interviewing communities > > particularly > > > > > >> impacted by the recent Israeli offensive, including medical > > personnel, > > > > > >> humanitarian aid workers and United Nations representatives. In > > > > > >> particular, the delegation examined three issues: 1) targeting of > > > > > >> civilians and civilian infrastructure; 2) illegal use of weapons > > and > > > > > >> 3) blocking of medical and humanitarian assistance to civilians. > > > > > > >> Targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure > > > > > > >> Much of the debate surrounding Israel's aerial and ground > > offensive > > > > > >> against Gaza has centered on whether or not Israel observed > > principles > > > > > >> of proportionality and distinction. The debate suggests that > > Israel > > > > > >> targeted Hamas, i.e., its military installations, its leaders and > > its > > > > > >> militants, and in the process of its discrete military exercise it > > > > > >> inadvertently killed Palestinian civilians. While we have found > > > > > >> evidence that Palestinian civilians were victims of excessive > > force > > > > > >> and collateral damage, we have also found troubling instances of > > > > > >> Palestinian civilians being targets themselves. > > > > > > >> The delegation recorded numerous accounts of Israeli soldiers > > shooting > > > > > >> civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, in the > > head, > > > > > >> chest and stomach. Another common narrative described Israeli > > forces > > > > > >> rounding civilians into a single location, i.e., homes and schools > > > > > >> which Israeli tanks or warplanes then shelled. Israeli forces > > > > > >> continued to shoot at civilians fleeing the targeted structures. > > > > > > >> We spoke to Khaled Abed Rabu, who witnessed an Israeli soldier > > execute > > > > > >> his two-year-old and seven-year-old daughters, and critically > > injure a > > > > > >> third daughter, Samar, four years old, on a sunny afternoon > > outside > > > > > >> his home. Two other Israeli soldiers were standing nearby eating > > chips > > > > > >> and chocolates at the time on 7 January 2009. Abed Rabu recounts > > > > > >> standing in front of the Israeli soldiers with his mother, wife > > and > > > > > >> daughters for five to seven minutes before one of the soldiers > > opened > > > > > >> fire on his family. > > > > > > >> We spoke to Ibtisam al-Samouni, 31, and a resident of al-Zeitoun > > > > > >> neighborhood in Gaza City. On 4 January, the Israeli army forced > > > > > >> approximately 110 of al-Zeitoun's residents into Ibtisam's home. > > At > > > > > >> approximately 7am on 5 January, the Israeli military launched two > > tank > > > > > >> shells at the house without warning, killing two of Ibtisam's > > > > > >> children: Rizka, 14 and Faris, 12. When the survivors attempted to > > > > > >> flee, Israeli forces shot at them. Her son Abdullah, seven, was > > > > > >> injured in the shelling and remained in the home among his > > deceased > > > > > >> siblings for four days before Israeli forces permitted medical > > > > > >> personnel into al-Zeitoun to rescue them. After medical personnel > > > > > >> removed the injured persons, an Israeli war plane destroyed the > > house > > > > > >> and it crumbled over the lifeless bodies. The dead remained > > beneath > > > > > >> the rubble for 17 days before the Israeli army permitted medical > > > > > >> personnel to remove their bodies for burial. > > > > > > >> We spoke to the family of Rouhiya al-Najjar, 47, who lived in > > Khozaa, > > > > > >> Khan Younis. Israeli forces ordered her neighborhood's residents > > to > > > > > >> march to the city center. Rouhiya led 20 women out of her home and > > > > > >> into the alley. They all carried white scarves. Upon entering the > > > > > >> alley, an Israeli sniper shot Rouhiya in her left temple, killing > > her > > > > > >> instantly. Israeli forces prevented medical personnel from > > reaching > > > > > >> her body for 12 hours. These are only some of the accounts that > > we've > > > > > >> collected. > > > > > > >> Israeli forces also destroyed numerous buildings throughout the > > Gaza > > > > > >> Strip during the recent incursion. Guild delegates viewed the > > remains > > > > > >> of hundreds of demolished homes and businesses -- in addition to > > the > > > > > >> remains of the American School in Gaza, damaged medical centers, > > and > > > > > >> the charred innards of the UN agency for Palestine refugees > > (UNRWA) > > > > > >> warehouses. While in situations of armed conflict, collateral > > damage > > > > > >> and mistakes can occur, the circumstances surrounding the cases > > that > > > > > >> the delegation investigated indicate deliberate targeting rather > > than > > > > > >> collateral damage or mistake. Specifically: > > > > > > >> The American School at Gaza, which was hit with two F-16 missiles > > on 3 > > > > > >> January 2009, killing the watch guard on duty. According to Ribhi > > > > > >> Salem, the school's director, the Israelis gave no warnings. Salem > > > > > >> stated that the school had come to an agreement with resistance > > groups > > > > > >> not to use school grounds and there had never been resistance > > activity > > > > > >> on the property. > > > > > > >> UNRWA > > > > > > >> John Ging, the Director of Gaza Operations for UNRWA, reported > > that > > > > > >> Israeli forces fired missiles at UNRWA schools in Gaza City, > > Jabalyia > > > > > >> and Beit Lahiya. The United Nations compound in Gaza City was also > > hit > > > > > >> with white phosphorous shells and missiles. Ging noted that all UN > > > > > >> buildings and vehicles fly UN flags, are marked in blue paint from > > the > > > > > >> top, and that during hostilities the UN personnel remained in > > constant > > > > > >> contact with Israeli authorities. > > > > > > >> Misuse of weapons > > > > > > >> Our delegation has heard allegations of the use of DIME (Dense > > Inert > > > > > >> Metal Explosive) weaponry, white phosphorus and other possible > > weapons > > > > > >> whose use in civilian areas is prohibited. We have also heard of > > the > > > > > >> use of prohibited weapons, such as flachettes. We have found our > > own > > > > > >> evidence of the use of flachette shells, which we will combine > > with > > > > > >> evidence collected by Amnesty International to push for further > > > > > >> investigation. We have not found any conclusive evidence of the > > use of > > > > > >> DIME, though we believe that this warrants further investigation > > and > > > > > >> disclosure by the Israeli military. > > > > > > >> Our findings overwhelmingly point to the use of conventional > > weapons > > > > > >> in a prohibited manner, specifically, the use of battlefield > > weaponry > > > > > >> in densely populated civilian areas. Customary international law > > > > > >> forbids the use of weapons calculated to cause unnecessary > > suffering. > > > > > >> We found evidence that Israel used white phosphorus in extensively > > > > > >> throughout its three-week offensive in a manner that led to > > numerous > > > > > >> deaths and > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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