It may be like the restaurants and bars I spent my early childhood in,
CW. I was a chaperone for my mother and her battles with midwestern
wanna-be mafia/bootlegger types amid all those Irish, German and
Scandinavian slaves at $1. a day. My mother probably figured she
wouldn't be killed with a young daughter along after my father died.//
One of the REAL meat markets moved to a nearby suburb and left- the
women only bought weiners and hamburger and they never understood cuts
of meats. My mother learned to cook from one-maybe two- of owners of
great restaurants in this city. Both closed. What has eclipsed is not
food.// That poem is somewhere... :-)

On Mar 14, 6:27 pm, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LOL!!!  The restaurant is old and is in an old area but the food is
> excellent.  It is actually "trendy". LOL Find the poem Rigs.  hehehe
>
> CW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> To: "PoliticalForum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 07:20
> Subject: Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health
> issue
>
> Why is a "great restaurant" in Cleveland in the heart of hooker-
> ville?// I suppose your death cerificate will read pneumonia instead
> of smoking.// Billy somebody had a poem about smoking after sex but I
> guess I misfiled it.
>
> On Mar 14, 6:10 pm, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > LOL!! I went out to dinner with friends a few weeks ago. We went to this
> > great restaurant downtown (Cleveland) and after dinner I went outside to
> > have a cigarette and there I am - standing in the freezing cold - on a
> > corner with hookers - smoking!! I actually considered quitting at that
> > point but NAH!
>
> > CW
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> > To: "PoliticalForum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 06:39
> > Subject: Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health
> > issue
>
> > I must admit I have trouble with another smoker' s exhaled smoke in
> > close quarters. I never thought I would wind up on decks or street
> > corners like a trollop, however. And the packing away of gorgeous
> > cases, ashtrays and lighters seems cruel. White walls and pages soon
> > turn into parchment and my daughter claims the scent travels an ocean
> > and sea after a visit.
>
> > On Mar 14, 7:50 am, NavyBrat <dotis2...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > I smoked for thirty years when I finally gave them up 10 years ago. I
> > > gave them up for three reasons, I was sick of smoking, the cost was
> > > becoming prohibitive, and last but most important for making me want
> > > to quit......being made to feel like a scumbag looser. I was thrilled
> > > when the restuarants and bars and casino's here went smokeless.
> > > Especially restuarants because even as a smoker I hated smelling smoke
> > > when I was trying to eat. Personally I don't use the excuse of workers
> > > having to suffer health problems from working in smoking
> > > establishments. I am up front non apoligetic that I love not smelling
> > > smoke and having it clinging to my clothes and sinuses when I left a
> > > 'smoking establishment'. I'm sorry if it bums out the smokers. I had
> > > my social backlash to deal with, now you have your own kind of
> > > backlash to deal with. Your freedoms don't out freedom mine. ;).
>
> > > On Mar 12, 11:23 am, Philobealo <wayneb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > from my local paper
>
> > > > With regard to the recent letters about smoking bans at restaurants
> > > > and other public accommodation venues, I would prefer to think of it
> > > > not as an issue of freedom of economic choice for the restaurant
> > > > owner. I prefer to think of it as an issue of workplace health and
> > > > safety.
>
> > > > As long as leading health experts not funded by tobacco companies are
> > > > in agreement that smoking and second-hand smoke are indeed injurious
> > > > to the health of those affected by both, it would behoove government
> > > > to set the health and safety requirements for people who do not smoke
> > > > but find themselves employed by these venues.
>
> > > > The person working in such venues should not have to choose between
> > > > keeping their job or their health. I, for one, would not want my tax
> > > > dollars paying for the health care of a person who wished only to work
> > > > for a living, but ends up contracting a smoking-related illness. A ban
> > > > on smoking in public venues is not an intrusion on private enterprise
> > > > as much as it’s minimal government interference in a personal habit
> > > > that affects the health and pocketbooks of innocent citizens.
>
> > > > Robert Munro, Angleton- Hide quoted text -
>
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