Don't think so, If Obama signs a bill it means it is now law. This is what you said, and this is NOT what happened.
Try again and see if you can get it correct this time. On May 1, 1:28 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Probably a whole lot better than you do. > > VT VirtualTruth wrote: > > LMAO.... > > > Then what does this mean in your mind? > > > OBAMA SIGNS BILLS AND CREATES NEW LAWS DISARMING AMERICANS NATIONWIDE > > AND SUBMITS USA LAWS TO UNITED NATIONS CONTROL > > > Do you KNOW how bills become law? > > > On May 1, 12:44 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Did not have anything to do with its being passed. I don't want it > >> passed. I merely said I don't like the sounds of this one and if it is > >> introduced there is at least some chance it might be passed. Got my > >> dislike in early on the subject. > >> Do you > >> Hollywood wrote: > > >>> dick, > > >>> Funny, the article says the bill was INTRODUCED. Said nothing at all > >>> about it being passed by Congress and signed into actual law by the > >>> President. A typo on your part I'm sure. > >>> US laws subject to UN control? Bull-fucking-shit. Show me where such a > >>> law was passed by Congress and signed into law by the President. > > >>> BTW, I would be very much against such a law and will e-mail my > >>> Congressman and Senators advising them to NOT vote for it. > > >>> On May 1, 10:35 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Subject:More on HR45 > > >>>> Anti-Mullah <http://noiri.blogspot.com/> > > >>>> OBAMA SIGNS BILLS AND CREATES NEW LAWS DISARMING AMERICANS NATIONWIDE > >>>> AND SUBMITS USA LAWS TO UNITED NATIONS CONTROL > >>>> <http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-signs-bills-and-creates-new-l...> > > >>>> Posted: 30 Apr 2009 11:40 AM PDT > > >>>> *OBA-HUSSEIN-KHOMEINI, making sure that he makes the Constitutional > >>>> right to bear arms by new legislation totally impossible, > > >>>> H E R E- I T- C O M E S !!! - HR45 Gun Licensing Bill > >>>> HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009 > > >>>> ... this is "Obama's Gun Control by Secrecy". * > >>>> ** > >>>> *Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into > >>>> the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act > >>>> of 2009.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *We heard this yesterday on the Peter Boyles radio program.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *_/Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying > >>>> under the radar/_.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *To find out about this go to any government website and type in HR 45 > >>>> or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of > >>>> 2009. You will get all the information. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with > >>>> a clip or ANY pistol unless: It is registered.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You are fingerprinted.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You supply a current Driver's License.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You supply your Social Security #.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their > >>>> choosing.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must > >>>> be reported and costs $25. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and > >>>> are subject up to a year in jail.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a > >>>> child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child > >>>> under 18. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *The Government would have the right to come and inspect that you are > >>>> storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is > >>>> punishable for up to 5 years in prison. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *The gun owner's license would expire in 5 years and would _not_ > >>>> automatically renew.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of > >>>> many options to read this ...* > >>>> ** > >>>> *http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/textItislengthy. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word > >>>> along.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *FAILURE TO DO SO AT YOUR PERIL!* > >>>> ** > >>>> *This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and > >>>> disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a > >>>> little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone > >>>> realizes it. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *It's another example of the slowly-boiled frog: put a frog in a pan of > >>>> water and slowly heat it; the frog will be boiled to death without > >>>> realizing it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not. The > >>>> Second Amendment: America's original homeland security.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You may phone the U.S. Capitol Switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A > >>>> switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office > >>>> you request. > >>>> * > > >>>> ** > > >>>> *ALSO* > > >>>> /Just received this from a friend. Haven't heard anything about this > >>>> from the NRA, etc: > >>>> / > >>>> /I don't know if you are aware of this but Obama signed the treaty on > >>>> guncontrol with the UN...everyone must start now contacting their > >>>> Senators to tell them not to ratify this treaty./ > > >>>>http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin507.htmhttp://gunowners.o... > > >>>> Please pass this on to everyone you know so that they may start > >>>> contactingtheir Senators > > >>>> Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Reloading > > >>>> -- Even BB guns could be on the chopping block > > >>>> Tuesday, April 21, 2009 > > >>>> Remember CANDIDATE Barack Obama? The guy who "wasn't going to take away > >>>> our guns"? Well, guess what? > > >>>> Less than 100 days into his administration, he's never met a gun he > >>>> didn't hate. > > >>>> A week ago, Obama went to Mexico, whined about the United States, and > >>>> bemoaned (before the whole world) the fact that he didn't have the > >>>> political power to take away our semi-automatics. Nevertheless, that > >>>> didn't keep him from pushing /_additional restrictions_/ on American gun > >>>> owners. > > >>>> It's called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing > >>>> of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other > >>>> Related Materials. > > >>>> To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work. > > >>>> First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture > >>>> of firearms, what does that mean? > > >>>> 1. "Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of > >>>> firearms [or] ammunition ... without a license...." Hence, reloading > >>>> ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is > >>>> clearly "illicit manufacturing." > > >>>> Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing." > >>>> And, _while it would be a_ _stretch_, _/assembling a firearm after > >>>> cleaning it could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the > >>>> screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing." /_ > > >>>> 2. "Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition. "[A]ny other > >>>> weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the term "weapon" > >>>> is nowhere defined. > > >>>> So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Probably. A toy gun? Possibly. A pistol > >>>> grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else. > > >>>> If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama > >>>> administration could have a heyday in enforcing them. Consider some of > >>>> the other provisions in the treaty: > > >>>> * Banning reloading. > > >>>> /BANNING SALE OF BRASS, ALREADY FIRED, CARTRIDGES BY THE MILITARY TO THE > >>>> PRIVATE SECTOR IS IN PROCESS AND HAS BEEN LURCHED BACK AND FORTH AND WAS > >>>> PREVENTED FROM TAKING EFFECT BUT NOW SEEMS TO HAVE COME BACK TO LIFE./ > > >>>> In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary > >>>> legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and > >>>> trafficking in firearms. Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes > >>>> reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way. > > >>>> This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate > >>>> regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it > >>>> is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing > >>>> greenhouse gases. > > >>>> * Banning gun clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized > >>>> acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said > >>>> offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by > >>>> regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun > >>>> clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership. > > >>>> * /_Extraditing US gun dealers_/. Article V requires each party to > >>>> "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction > >>>> over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" > >>>> under a variety of circumstances. > > >>>> We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its > >>>> streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to > >>>> define offenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way. And we > >>>> know that we have an _extradition obligation under Article XIX of the > >>>> proposed treaty. _ > > >>>> So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to > >>>> extradition of American gun dealers. Under Article XXIX, if Mexico > >>>> demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would > >>>> be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful > >>>> settlement." > > >>>> Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on > >>>> the > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
