You wouldn't have an oil industry in America without royalty owners and the oil industry. Go peddle your bike.
On May 11, 8:01�pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > KIT, > > You can "believe" in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus for all I care. > Dosen't mean your belief should be accepted as if it were a matter of > fact by sane and sober adults. > > I think I'll believe that George bush is REALLY the illegitimate som > of Adolph Hitle and Eva Braun. > > Well for one thing if the oil industry was nationalized that dumbass > Gov. Palin wouldn't have sounded so stupid chanting "drill here", > drill now" as if somehow oil found and brought up by multi-national > oil companies actually belonged to the United Staes and was not the > private property of the oil companies for them to do with what they > wish. > Maybe anything vital to national security cannot be trusted to > corporations any longer. > > On May 11, 11:56�am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Holly, > > > Holly, > > > In the New Millennium, I believe that "Socialist" and "Democrat" are > > interchangeable monikers..... > > When you have a moment, please point out, "Some [of the] good ideas" that > > you believe can be attributed from Socialsim. > > > (P.S.: �At 52, my ass is just right behind ya, and I refuse to get any > > older....You ain't draggin' my ass with ya!!! �LOL!!) > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Hollywood > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > KIT, > > > > Thank you, I AM a rather young 59. > > > > Socialism does have SOME good ideas,as does almost ALL political > > > ideaologies. I repeat, in what precincts in Minnesota does the > > > Socialist Party have a majority over the Democratic and Republican > > > Party. Not interested in your partisan labels. > > > > On May 11, 11:04 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Young Holly, > > > > > �The truth is, that most Democrats in the New Millennium, are > > > > Socialists. > > > > The Democrat Party has literally been infiltrated by socialists. �Many > > > act > > > > as if it is some kind of an insult to call a Socialist, a "Socialist", > > > and > > > > this train of thought is beyond me. �Although the Democrats used to try > > > and > > > > evade the moniker, and distance themselves from being classified as > > > > socialists, they do so no more. > > > > > �During the presidential campaign, President Obama, in his �own words, > > > > openly advocates a redistribution of wealth: > > > > >http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html > > > > > Of course, Vice President Biden believes that a socialist, > > > "redistribution > > > > of wealth" plan, is the "patriotic thing to do": > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc > > > > > Congresswoman Maxine Waters (Socialist, Cal.) �just this past summer, > > > > parroted the Venezuelan socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, calling for the > > > > nationalization of the oil companies: > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ > > > > > ===================== > > > > Former House Democratic Caucus Chairman and current Chief of Staff �Rahm > > > > Emanuel, (D. Il.) �and Congressman. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) this past > > > summer > > > > called for nationalizing our oill companies and our oil refineries: > > > > > "So if there's any seriousness about what some of our Republican > > > colleagues > > > > are saying here in the House and elsewhere about improving the number of > > > > refineries, then maybe they'd be willing to have these refineries owned > > > > publicly, owned by the people of the United States, so that the people > > > > of > > > > the United States can determine how much of the product is refined and > > > put > > > > out on the market. To me, that sounds like a very good idea." House > > > > Democratic Caucus > > > > *Former Chairman, & Current Obama Administration Chief of Staff �Rahm > > > > Emanuel (D-IL) June 19, 2008 * > > > > >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.... > > > > > "We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how > > > much > > > > gets out into the market. �Should the people of the United States own > > > > refineries? Maybe so. Frankly, I think that's a good idea. Then we could > > > > control the amount of refined product much more capably that gets out on > > > the > > > > market..." > > > > > *Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) 18 June Press Conference with Democratic > > > > leadership. * > > > > > �http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.. > > > .. > > > > > ========================== > > > > > Former Senator �and current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during > > > her > > > > presidential campaign, openly advocated a socialist platform: > > > > > "Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. > > > > We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going > > > to > > > > cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away > > > from > > > > you on behalf of the common good." - Senator Hillary Clinton, April 27, > > > 2008 > > > > > "Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government > > > policies."� > > > > - Senator Hillary Clinton, 2008 presidential candidate, May 29, 2007 > > > > > "...because an uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely > > > to > > > > die than an insured person. I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We > > > > have to build a political consensus and that requires people giving up a > > > > little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground. The > > > same > > > > with energy. You know, we can't keep talking about our dependence on > > > foreign > > > > oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it > > > poses > > > > to our climate and to God's creation and just let business as usual go > > > on, > > > > and that means something has to be taken away from some people." - > > > > > *Former Senator & Current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 2008 > > > > presidential candidate, June 3, 2007* > > > > * * > > > > ===================== > > > > > Democrats openly call for redistribution of wealth in our Nation, they > > > call > > > > for socialized medicine, socialized energy, and in general, the Democrat > > > > Party openly advocates the federal government's �involvement in each and > > > > every facet of our lives. � Period. �What part of this can anyone, with > > > > a > > > > straight face, argue is NOT socialism? �The basic premise of all > > > Democrats, > > > > is: �"Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Lenninism, etc. were not all that > > > bad, > > > > we just haven't had the right people try to implement these economic and > > > > political policies yet". > > > > > Holly, just to refresh your memory, here is �the definition of > > > > socialism: > > > > > �"Date: 1837. From Latin socialis for "friend" or "companion" or > > > > "associate". Any of various economic and political theories advocating > > > > collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of > > > > production and distribution of goods; usually there is no private > > > property; > > > > in Marxist theory this is also considered just a transitional stage > > > between > > > > capitalism and communism and it is distinguished by unequal distribution > > > of > > > > goods and pay according to work done." > > > > > The above definition is by Mr. John Spargo, from his work titled: > > > > "Socialism, A Summary And Interpretation Of Socialist Principles" > > > (McMillan > > > > & Co. 1913). �Below is the Wiki definition, which is quite similar. > > > > > "Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or > > > > governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and > > > > distribution of goods. �A stage of society in Marxist theory > > > > transitional > > > > between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal > > > distribution > > > > of goods and pay according to work done" > > > > > �==================== > > > > > There is no question that President Obama calledfor the very tenets of > > > > socialism, which is the forerunner of communism, and a economic and > > > > political system that has failed miserably throughout recorded history. > > > > President �Obama's, �and many Democrats' belief, is that "Socialism, > > > > Communism, Marxism, Trotskyism, and Stalinism were all wonderful > > > political, > > > > social and economic systems, we just haven't had the right folks try and > > > > implement them yet!" > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Hollywood <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > Don't we normally have an investigation and then a trial before > > > > > declaring someone guilty? THAT was my point. > > > > > By all means, let the proper authority properly investigate ANY valid > > > > > accusation of fraud. > > > > > > What the fuck is a "socialist majority precint"? In what Minnesota > > > > > precincts is the Socialist Party in the majority and NOT either the > > > > > Democratic or republican Party? I say you are either lying or badly > > > > > mistaken. > > > > > Yeah, if a recount is ordered by the election board and/or a court > > > > > with jurisdiction sometimes ballots ARE counted twice. So? > > > > > > On May 10, 10:18 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Uhm.....Holly??? > > > > > > > Isn't that the point of the current litigation? > > > > > > > I'll be happy to point you to a number of factual sites, with > > > empirical > > > > > data > > > > > > that pretty much establishes the dishonesty of ACORN, the Minnesota > > > State > > > > > > Attorney's Office, and a number of County Supervisors of Elections, > > > that > > > > > > utilized different standards in some socialist majority precincts, > > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > standards for conservative majority precincts. � Just as important, > > > there > > > > > > were a number of precincts that had their votes counted twice, and I > > > > > think > > > > > > is as Rigs is alluding too, there are still a number of absentee > > > ballots > > > > > > that to this day, have not been counted. > > > > > > > Sounds a lot like the typical far > > ... > > read more �- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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