>The legal definition of murder is "an unlawful killing",last I heard abortion 
>was legal in this country.

At one point in this country, it was "legal" kill slaves for minor
misbehaviors. Does that mean, to you, that it wasn't murder?

On Jun 1, 10:05 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> bruce,
>
> Did i say Christians were the only ones? Jim W. brought up the
> Christian "thing", I was speaking to him not you.
> I don't give a shit if your a gay atheist or the freakin' Pope. The
> legal definition of murder is "an unlawful killing",last I heard
> abortion was legal in this country.
> Your basically an idiot lad. How is it a "smear" to quote two of the
> basic principles of Christianity? We all label lad, get over your
> feigned outrage and tell me what I said that was not true.
> It would have been more tecjnically accurate had I said "the Christian
> religion" instead of Christians". Your right their are plenty of
> "Christians that call themselves that and show up at church every
> Sunday that from their actions obviously don't practice their faith.
> Your still pretty much an idiot, just the same.
>
> On Jun 1, 8:37 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Christians are not the only people opposed to partial birth abortion, late
> > term abortion, and murdering viable infants who survive botched abortions
>
> > I am an atheist and I oppose all those forms of murder
>
> > I doubt all christians believe in original sin either.  And for that matter,
> > "liberal" collectivists have accepted all the ethics of the worst parts of
> > christian altruism, including anti-human cannibalistic atavism in which
> > human joy and achievement and pride and self-interest are condemned and
> > targeted.
>
> > But of course, you would need to smear and label
>
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Hollywood 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > Jim W,
>
> > > If an infant is the "breath of innocence" why do Christians believe in
> > > the concepts of original sin and the barbaric need for vicarious
> > > atonement?
> > > I'm just saying......
>
> > > On Jun 1, 5:34 am, Jim Willis <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I do favor life. Yet, as a Christian I know that thou shalt not
> > > > murder. The tenet does not prescribe, "thou shalt not kill". It's the
> > > > same o'...same o' argument postulated by you pinheads on the left. How
> > > > we can oppose abortion and support the death penalty? This is
> > > > relatively and repetitively simple, except for you simpletons. An
> > > > infant is the breath of innocence. Though; the actions of an adult
> > > > might require a recompense of death for his actions. I'm just
> > > > saying....
>
> > > > On May 31, 10:14 pm, Diogenes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > This again points out just how far off center the right is. You, claim
> > > > > to favor life and then pile on a story that clearly shows that you
> > > > > don't give a jot about the issue, it simply control that you are
> > > > > seeking. Compromise does not enter in your limited views of truth or
> > > > > justice. Now, before your beanies spin off out of control consider how
> > > > > this action appears to anyone who looks at this discussion with less
> > > > > then a jaundiced view of events.
>
> > > > > You do realize that what has been written in previous postings would
> > > > > play well with the telaban and there jaundice views of religion and
> > > > > law and order? The main problem is that like the people who promote
> > > > > such primitive thinking, sounds no different from another extremist
> > > > > group around the world. I know that concepts that don't meet your
> > > > > limited views are considered as trash and not worthy of comment.
>
> > > > > So thanks, in advance for the opportunity to exposure of barbaric and
> > > > > decidedly unchristian reasoning. You do of course realize it is just
> > > > > type of comments that lead so many to vote for Oboma, so keep spinning
> > > > > your propellers you make the Democrats job so much easier, with these
> > > > > wacko comments.
>
> > > > > On May 31, 10:43 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Jim W.
>
> > > > > > Hiya' Jimbo, ain't it a loooooovley evenin'?
>
> > > > > > Well, the shooter should be more than happy to give up 20 to 25 
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > of his life for such a noble and worthy cause. Send him a Bible and 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > subscription to Gun's & Ammo so he'll have reading material in
> > > prison.
>
> > > > > > You let an intern write today's article? It was sloppy and rather
> > > > > > disjointed.
>
> > > > > > On May 31, 6:06 pm, Jim Willis <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > You can just see the drive-by media getting cranked up for this
> > > story.
> > > > > > > A high profile abortion doctor; whacked in a church as he was
> > > shaking
> > > > > > > down parishioners to keep the Reformation Lutheran Church afloat.
> > > > > > > This story fits the template of the media. That is the wild and
> > > crazy
> > > > > > > fringe Christian right as bloodthirsty fundamentalist’s hell bent
> > > on
> > > > > > > exercising our second amendment rights on all you backsliders.
> > > > > > > OBLIGATORY STATEMENT…No Christian would ever sanction a murder,
> > > we’re
> > > > > > > sorry for this mans family…yada, yada, yada…blah, blah, blah. 
> > > > > > > Still
> > > > > > > let’s not martyr this doctor, “Dr. George Tiller”. After all; he
> > > was a
> > > > > > > dues paying member of a very exclusive club. You know; the club
> > > that
> > > > > > > has as a tenet of its membership grasping full term infants by
> > > their
> > > > > > > ankles, dragging them halfway through the birth canal and stabbing
> > > > > > > them in the head with a pair if surgical scissors… neat huh?
> > > > > > > What will be overlooked is, that in any reality what the, “now 
> > > > > > > room
> > > > > > > temperature” doctor engaged in was quite simply murder. There is 
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > equivocating or minimizing what this animal did for a living. And;
> > > in
> > > > > > > death I give no quarter for this mass murderer.
> > > > > > > Still, as a constitutional Christian; a conservative Christian, I
> > > can
> > > > > > > disparage, “to a degree” the actions of the gunman; for we don’t
> > > take
> > > > > > > the laws of this country into our own hands.
> > > > > > > But, before I forget; let me just postulate that to, “in any way”
> > > > > > > equate the Reformation Lutheran Church as akin to anything 
> > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > Christian is to attach anything other than cult status to Muslims.
> > > > > > > Churches such as that produce nothing but community organizers,
> > > > > > > pedophiles and abortion aficionados. As long as were are clear…
> > > > > > > Okay…where was I? Ah yes; the lenient gun laws that allow us right
> > > > > > > winged nuts to dispatch reputable medical parishioners off to the
> > > > > > > Reformation Lutheran Church graveyard… posthaste. This is the
> > > mosaic
> > > > > > > that will be cobbled together by our stalwart media.
> > > > > > > But here’s the real story; the one that the media will never
> > > portray.
> > > > > > > The guy getting the medical procedure as we speak, “an autopsy” 
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > the man responsible for hundreds of infant deaths. For you lily
> > > > > > > livered, fence sitting Podunk’s out there who might be indifferent
> > > to
> > > > > > > abortion, let me set you straight. This doctor bought nice homes,
> > > > > > > raised a family and supported a wife by slaughtering full term
> > > viable
> > > > > > > infants. That is not abortion; it is infanticide. And… I suspect 
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > this very moment his soul is wondering what happened to the air-
> > > > > > > conditioning.
> > > > > > > As to the gunman; I also suspect that this is a man who simply
> > > > > > > couldn’t abide the continuation of the slaughter. So…he took the
> > > law
> > > > > > > into his own hands; something that should never be done. In
> > > actuality,
> > > > > > > in my humble opinion, the shooter is more of a victim than the
> > > victim.
> > > > > > > Because, in reality the United States Supreme Court is the real
> > > > > > > culprit. For, they took the choice away from the people and set in
> > > > > > > motion a mood of disenfranchisement. Still, I pray for the 
> > > > > > > shooter,
> > > > > > > not for the soul of this doctor. He sold that soul for gold and
> > > > > > > murdered his fellow man…over and over.
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