Thank you Richard. I have to acknowledge the class of such a gesture. Obviously we disagree on much but I believe we agree on more than may initially seem apparent to you. And when we don't, we can get out the sabres and fence with honor and mutual respect. I look forward to it.
Cheers, FS On Jun 28, 6:35 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]> wrote: > Fred - > > Let me say that if Mrs. Rabbit likes you, then you are alright by me. > I have my own way of finding out about people and I usually do it in > different ways. I appreciated many of the points you made, though I > think you might be well advised to keep some of those "dumb redneck" > comments (you never used the words, just the code) out of your > comments. There are many southerners on this site. Anyhow, I > actually enjoyed the sparring and hope we can do more, though I am > perfectly fine with agreeing with you, if you are right. > > Oh yeah, one more thing. When you get the gumption to climb a 14er, > let this old porch sitter know and I will take you on a climb and > leave you with a picture you will never forget. Cioa, buddy! > > On Jun 28, 7:12 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Hollywood, I already find them both rather amusing. > > > On Jun 28, 12:31 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Frederick, > > > > BTW, see what i mean about ol' Travis? He can actually be rather > > > amusing in a crude, clownish sort of way but he's not to be taken > > > seriously. > > > > On Jun 28, 2:07 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hollywood: "Where, in the post you are in theory answering did he make > > > > fun > > > > > > of people from Alabama? Where did he make fun of people that value > > > > > individual freedoms and personal responsibility" > > > > > Richard seems inclined to tell others what they are thinking - which > > > > is where the facist remark came from (tongue in cheek). Obviously, I > > > > did not make fun of people from Alabama or who value liberty or > > > > freedoms. I think Richard is just you know, sensitive. ;-) > > > > > On Jun 28, 11:54 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > Why don't you just point out any falsehoods or untruths in Frederick's > > > > > post? Where, in the post you are in theory answering did he make fun > > > > > of people from Alabama? Where did he make fun of people that value > > > > > individual freedoms and personal responsibility? Do you want to adress > > > > > what he actully said or do you want to blabber about what you THINK he > > > > > means and/or implies? Let's see a little common sense and rational > > > > > discourse. > > > > > > On Jun 28, 1:16 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > And, some can't face reality, so they lie about who they are and > > > > > > what > > > > > > they believe and make fun of people from Alabama and those that > > > > > > value > > > > > > individual freedoms and personal responsibility. If you think your > > > > > > childish banter will change my core beliefs, you are more deluded > > > > > > than > > > > > > you make out to be. > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 12:09 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Peachy little diatribe ya got there Junior. Brings to mind the old > > > > > > > phrase "So what". > > > > > > > When they did all this, we had just finished a war with a > > > > > > > monarchy. > > > > > > > There as no such thing as a police force in America. Women > > > > > > > couldn't > > > > > > > vote. Blacks were property. Christianity was considered the > > > > > > > national > > > > > > > religion and Jews, Asians and other minorities were limited as to > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > they could own or what kind of businesses they could even be > > > > > > > employed > > > > > > > by. So while I love our Constitution and think that it is what > > > > > > > makes > > > > > > > our nation great, I also live in reality. It has evolved based on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > will of the people and the influence of our leaders. Most of our > > > > > > > leaders have protected it. Depending on whom you talk to, Bush > > > > > > > and / > > > > > > > or Obama have violated it. But our country is what it is. Some > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > do things to make it better. Others do nothing and that is their > > > > > > > claim > > > > > > > to making things better. Still others post lengthy, pseudo- > > > > > > > intellectual bullshit and claim that somehow makes anything > > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > Oooh Rah. > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 9:19 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Our Founding Fathers, amongst the greatest of "classical > > > > > > > > liberals" > > > > > > > > held dear, the concepts of individual liberty and the matching > > > > > > > > trait > > > > > > > > personal responsibility. However, their initial effort at > > > > > > > > uniting the > > > > > > > > country was a dismal failure. The Articles of Confederation > > > > > > > > were too > > > > > > > > loose, insufficiently uniting and failed to pull the former > > > > > > > > colonies > > > > > > > > together into a United States. But, these wise liberal thinkers > > > > > > > > recognized the error of their ways and drafted an alternative. > > > > > > > > It was > > > > > > > > unique in the history of man. It established a centralized > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > government with strictly limited powers. All powers not > > > > > > > > directly > > > > > > > > granted to the federal government were reserved to the states. > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > fact, in order to preclude the excessive strengthening of an > > > > > > > > "imperial > > > > > > > > federal bureaucracy" these wise men identified certain > > > > > > > > "freedoms" and > > > > > > > > "rights" to all citizens. Rightly so, classical liberals of the > > > > > > > > future continued to expand the definition of "citizens", but > > > > > > > > they did > > > > > > > > not make any effort to expand the rights and powers of the > > > > > > > > "imperial > > > > > > > > federal bureaucracy". However, the "neo-liberal" strain of > > > > > > > > liberalism, has completely lost touch with the core ideas of > > > > > > > > individual liberty and personal resposibility and the requisite > > > > > > > > political structure of limited federal bureaucracy. In fact, > > > > > > > > the neo- > > > > > > > > liberal strain is rightly labeled as being closer to > > > > > > > > "communism" as > > > > > > > > they believe is the allocation of all wealth ("from those with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > most to those with the least") and massive centralized control > > > > > > > > of all > > > > > > > > aspects of the economy. I do not comprehend where the > > > > > > > > "neo-liberals" > > > > > > > > went wrong, but wrong they are! > > > > > > > > > PS -- It is not the religious beliefs that are intolerable, but > > > > > > > > rather the scum that have usurped the leadership positions. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 10:03 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay then. I thought hollywood (or was it studio) was > > > > > > > > > exxagerating but > > > > > > > > > apparently, he was dead on in his assessment of the fear and > > > > > > > > > resentment toward this and in Richard's case, all religions. > > > > > > > > > Richard, although sad, I find your replies entertaining. > > > > > > > > > Apparently, > > > > > > > > > all forms of government and religion are just loathsome to > > > > > > > > > you. Is > > > > > > > > > there anything in which you do believe? Guiding principles or > > > > > > > > > philosophy? Hopes, dreams, goals? Any ray of sunshine in that > > > > > > > > > dismal > > > > > > > > > existence of yours, which has been so wrongly impeded upon by > > > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > > forces? And really, if you are so against the things which are > > > > > > > > > tantamount to American life, why live here? > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 9:53 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Someone posted that there is some pretty extreme prejudice > > > > > > > > > > and hatred > > > > > > > > > > here. True? Not True? 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