It doesn't matter The government and courts should never be deciding what is a "true" story and what is not.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Frederick The Moderate < [email protected]> wrote: > > Keith seems correct here. The suit is against the station execs, not > FOX. Based on Hollywoods logic, FOX, CNN etc... would be culpable for > every illegal act commited by those to whom they license their > programming. > > On Jun 26, 8:37 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't know where to start here...... > > > > I guess maybe a good place to start, is with the hypocrisy of Studio > posting > > such a biased, misleading, untruthful article, and then Hollywood jumping > on > > the bandwagon, once again demonstrating his bias, ignorance, and > > partisanship against anything that could remotely be perceived as > > conservative or "Republican". Both of these gentlemen have tonight > > demonstrated that they are guilty of what they accuse FOX News and Rupert > > Murdoch of being guilty of, and as a side note, FOX News and Rupert > Murdoch > > were not even a part of this litigation. > > > > In other words, neither Rupert Murdoch or FOX News, which is the crux of > > Studio's story, and Hollywood's commentary, are a party, and FOX News > nor > > Rupert Murdoch were even remotely affiliated with this litigation, but > > Studio and Hollywood in their attempt to besmirch FOX News failed to even > > realize this rather important fact. > > > > It is Americans like the two of you Studio and Holly, who blacken the eye > of > > liberal/progressive politics, and cheapen open debate and discussion, > when > > you post such frivolous, untruthful and just downright prevaricate, > > misleading articles. > > > > I trust that many of our Members took the time to read the actual > > case citation, the link which was provided in the article that Studio > > provided, but was not highlighted, and one had to scroll over it to > realize > > that it was in fact linked to the link that Studio initially posted. > Again, > > the intent was to mislead with bogus information and spin. I have posted > > the Florida Second District Court of Appeals Opinion to this message for > > anyone who may be interested in reading the truth. > > > > The truth, is that Jane Ackre and Steve Wilson, both with WTVT Channel > 13 > > here in Tampa, sued Channel 13 for various and sundry allegations; the > > predominance of Ms. Ackre's suit was that Channel 13 had terminated her > > because she was getting older. When that suit failed, (and Tampa's news > > stations have a number of older male and female reporters, to include > > Channel 13, so the argument was laughable not only to the legal community > > but to all Tampanians!!) Ms. Ackre then as an afterthought, attempted to > > sue Channel 13 under the Whistle Blower Statute, Florida Statute > > ยง448.102(1)(3). > > > > This allegation was legally flawed from the outset as a matter of law, > but > > to address the factual allegations, *e.g*.; those allegations that Studio > > posted an article revolving around and alleging that "*FOX News > misinformed > > the public*" ; Channel 13 had asked Ms. Ackre and Mr. Wilson to produce > > documentation that supported their story, of which neither could produce, > > and until such time as Ms. Ackre and Mr. Wilson could produce > documentation > > that supported their allegations regarding the bovine growth hormone, > > Channel 13 refused to air the story. The Jury did not find FOX News > guilty > > of any wrongdoing, because FOX News was not even a party to this matter, > and > > the Jury was clearly mislead in this matter, because this matter should > have > > never gone to trial! Channel 13 as a matter of law was not guilty of > > wrongdoing; there was no reason for the whistle blower statute to have > been > > in play, and the Jury did not find that the local television statement > had > > tried to cover up information!! Ms. Ackre or Mr. Wilson were not > wronged!! > > > > All of these facts are covered within the 2nd DCA's Opinion, but just as > > important, these facts were covered by news organizations here in Tampa, > to > > include Media General as well as New World Communications, which owns the > > FOX Television affiliate, (and which is totally distinct from the FOX > News > > Channel, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch!) > > > > Once again, shame on you both Holly and Studio. You both literally > should > > hold your heads in shame for posting such frivolous accusations, and then > > for your ridiculous commentary after the fact Holly!! > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce, > > > > > Bull-fucking-shit. Did it say the suit was brought by the DOJ? > > > Apparantly it was not a criminal suit but a civil suit filed by Ms. > > > Akre that was broght to a Florida Appeals Court after Fox lost in a > > > lower court. > > > Oh really? Lie WHILE UNDER OATH in a state or Federal Court and seem > > > how fast you are charged with perjury. > > > Don't give up the day job lad, you'd starve as a lawyer. > > > > > On Jun 26, 8:32 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Studio doesn't even realize that what the court said is that the > > > government > > > > does not get to say what is true and false. If it did then all news > > > would > > > > be censored because you could only report government approved truth. > > > > > > Are there any intelligent liberals someone can import into this > group. > > > > Because the three or so we have are weak sisters > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:24 PM, dick thompson < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > That would make Fox almost as bad a MSNBC and CNN then as well as > CBS > > > > > and NBC and ABC. After all CNN admitted that for the entire decade > of > > > > > the 1980's and most of the 1990's they lied about the reports they > made > > > > > from Iraq. Then you have the NYT which has refused to admit for > almost > > > > > 80 years that the reporter who got the Pulitzer for his reporting > about > > > > > the Kulaks in the Ukraine was totally bogus. Nothing new with this > at > > > > > all. CBS has been charged with reporting lies on 60 Minutes > several > > > > > times. That does not even include the lying of Cronkite during the > VN > > > > > war or Dan Rather and his crew. Keith Olbermann has lied about > Sarah > > > > > Palin multiple times as well as many of the other reports he made. > ABC > > > > > still does not admit that the questions they asked Palin were > faked. > > > > > And all of them have lied about Obama over the years. The > difference > > > is > > > > > that Fox will do something to fix it. None of the others would, > even > > > > > when they were proven to be lies. > > > > > > > studio wrote: > > > > > > Fox News gets okay to misinform public, court ruling > > > > > > 05/14/09 11:48 Filed in: Media Reform > > > > > > > > Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie. > > > > > > By Mike Gaddy. Published Feb. 28, 2003 > > > > > > > > On February 14, a Florida Appeals court ruled there is > > > > > > absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting > > > > > > information by a major press organization. > > > > > > The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of > > > > > > journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by > > > > > > Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she > > > > > > knew and documented to be false information. > > > > > > The ruling basically declares it is technically not against > > > > > > any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort > > > > > > the news on a television broadcast. > > > > > > > > The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert > > > > > > Murdock, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters > > > > > > the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the > > > > > > public airwaves. > > > > > > http://www.ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_n...quotedtext > - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > 866_So._2d_1231,_2003_Fla._App._LEXIS_1580,.DOC > > 24KViewDownload > > > > 2D01-529.pdf > > 58KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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