you didn't read the story it specifically discusses their wish to bypass congress
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM, pain <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is how treaties are made. Just because a leader signs a treaty > doesn't mean it's been implmented. It's up to the legislative body to > retify a treaty. I don't really see the problem. How do you suppose > the Congress approves a treaty before it's been negotiated? > > On 6 Juli, 18:14, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the > > treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it > > takes both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done > > deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it. > > Guess they forgot that one. Of course they also tried to forget that > > when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to > > implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified. Looks like another > > one coming along. > > > > *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making > > Powers: * Here's the relevant section > > <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am.. > .>: > > > > He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the > > Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators > > present concur; > > > > The Obama administration is finding that limitation inconvenient > > <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat.. > .>, > > and so they are thinking of "temporarily bypassing" > > <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot.. > .> > > the Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with > > the Russians on limiting nuclear arms. > > > > I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any > > provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or otherwise, > > that limit on his treaty-making powers. > > > > Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one little > bit. > > - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 [link] > > <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
