Yes as a shithead Bith you don't have a grasp of how those two things are different do you
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > cute spruce....do you think with that brain or just defecate with it? > > On Jul 6, 10:34 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > poor Bith, mewling out his little gibberish, hoping mommy will come clean > > the poo out of his diaper and put some ointment on his little infected > > urethra > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Biff <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > The wingnuts of this country have never met a fascist oligarchy they > > > disliked, or a collapsed economy they couldn't rationalize...thanks > > > for the reference from the Moonie Times. > > > > > On Jul 6, 4:08 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: *Travis* > > > > Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2009 > > > > Subject: He is a Marxist > > > > > > *I have already called him what he is. He is a Marxist. But does > the > > > > voting public understand what that really means?* > > > > > > *[image: The Washington Times]* <http://www.washingtontimes.com/> > > > > > > Saturday, July 4, 2009 > > > > > > None dare call it Marxism > > > > > > *David Limbaugh* > > > > > > All right already. I won't call President Obama a Marxist in this > column. > > > > Instead, I'll point to some signs that indicate Mr. Obama and Karl > Marx > > > > might well be soul mates. At least, they have similar attitudes about > > > > capital, labor and profits, er, surplus value. > > > > > > Liberals, even those of the Marxist variety, take umbrage when you > point > > > out > > > > their ideological kinship with Marxism. I suppose this dates back to > the > > > > days when being a communist was tantamount to being an enemy of the > > > United > > > > States, in that there was a global communist movement intent on - and > > > coming > > > > darn close to - world domination. Though global communism has been > > > defeated, > > > > there remains a strong contingent among us whose nerve center is the > > > > Democratic Party leadership under Mr. Obama, committed to > obliterating > > > > America's free market. > > > > > > Without getting into the intricacies of Marxist theory, suffice it to > say > > > > that at the core of this political and economic philosophy is a > belief in > > > > the historical class struggle. The capitalist (bourgeois) exploits > the > > > > industrial worker (proletarian) by underpaying him and adding on > > > unnecessary > > > > charges to the prices of goods and services, driving up costs to the > > > > consumer, and pocketing the profits. > > > > > > In "Basic Economics," Thomas Sowell puts it this way: "Profits may be > the > > > > most misconceived subject in economics. Socialists have long regarded > > > > profits as simply 'overcharge,' as Fabian socialist George Bernard > Shaw > > > > called it, or a 'surplus value' as Karl Marx called it." The theory > is > > > that > > > > under socialism or Marxism, these surplus charges would be eliminated > and > > > > goods and services would become more affordable. > > > > > > But in reality, socialism doesn't make goods and services more > > > affordable, > > > > but less so. As Mr. Sowell explains: "The hope for profits and the > threat > > > of > > > > losses is what forces a business owner in a capitalist economy to > produce > > > at > > > > the lowest cost and sell what the customers are most willing to pay > for. > > > ... > > > > Under socialism (there is) far less incentive to be as efficient ... > much > > > > less to keep up with changing conditions and respond to them > quickly." > > > With > > > > less incentive for efficiencies and cost control, the prices of goods > > > might > > > > well be higher. > > > > > > Profits are not arbitrary charges added on to the costs of producing > > > goods > > > > and services; nor are they attributable to artificially high prices > > > charged > > > > by those motivated by greed. Indeed, writes Mr. Sowell, most of the > great > > > > fortunes in American history were amassed when entrepreneurs were > able to > > > > reduce costs and charge lower prices and to increase their volume > sales > > > to > > > > mass markets. > > > > > > You get the point. Capitalists don't view profits as evil or the > product > > > of > > > > greed. Their opponents - call them Marxists, fascists, socialists, > > > radical > > > > liberals or whatever - do. That brings us back to Mr. Obama. > > > > > > *Both his father, Barack Obama Sr., and his mentor, Frank Marshall > Davis, > > > > were communists. His church of choice was one of black liberation > > > theology, > > > > whose Marxist roots are inarguable. He associated with far leftists > on > > > the > > > > "organizing" streets of Chicago, including Bill Ayers and Bernardine > > > Dohrn. > > > > * > > > > > > Mentorship and associations are one thing, but what have Mr. Obama's > > > words > > > > and actions revealed about his attitudes toward labor, capital, > profits > > > and > > > > government control of business and industry? > > > > > > Well, he said that he would raise capital gains tax rates, even if it > > > > reduced revenues, as a matter of fairness. It's only fair to make > > > everyone > > > > poorer if you believe profits are inherently evil. > > > > > > He told Joe the Plumber he wants to spread the wealth around. He > talked > > > > about confiscating Exxon Mobil's profits and giving them to > consumers, > > > > saying "they are not going to give up those profits easily." He > called > > > > Chrysler creditors "speculators" and castigated them for refusing to > > > accept > > > > his extortionist reorganization plan. He berated Wall Street for > making > > > > profits, saying "now is not [the] time" for them to "rake in > profits." He > > > > and his wife even railed against the pursuit of profit in their > > > respective > > > > commencement addresses. > > > > > > He abused the power of his office to steal money from General Motors > and > > > > Chrysler shareholders and transfer it to the proletariat, I mean, the > > > United > > > > Auto Workers. He redistributed taxpayer money from those who have > paid > > > their > > > > mortgages to those who have not. > > > > > > He is desperately trying to spread the misery and impoverish > businesses > > > and > > > > individuals through his cap and tax plan, which no proponent of > economic > > > > growth and prosperity would consider supporting. And in addition to > > > gobbling > > > > up other businesses and industries, he is trying to nationalize > medicine > > > - > > > > to siphon off the evil surplus value charged by doctors and insurance > > > > companies - on the flawed Marxist theory that he can reduce costs > > > overall, > > > > when the reason health care costs have already skyrocketed is that > market > > > > forces have been suppressed in the industry. > > > > > > You don't have to call him a Marxist, but at least understand where > his > > > > heart is. > > > > > > [image: navy jack.jpg] > > > > > > __,_._,___ > > > > > > -- > > > > *~@):~{> > > > > > > -- > > > > *~@):~{> > > > > > > image002.jpg > > > > 32KViewDownload > > > > > > image001.gif > > > > 2KViewDownload > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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