Strange how you can read all about this in the British papers but our media just seems not to see it happening and doesn't mention it at all. --- not strange at all
who among us owns the media and promotes socialism? On Aug 10, 10:38 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting that the French are pulling back on their socialized system > and making it more open to private practitioners these days and > rationing the healthcare itself as are the Brits and the Canadians and > the Danes and the Germans. I was reading that the Chinese are also > starting to ration their healthcare and the Japanese as well. So while > Zero is trying to get us into a socialized medicine plan those who > already have one are pulling back on it and cutting the benefits. > Strange how you can read all about this in the British papers but our > media just seems not to see it happening and doesn't mention it at all. > > > > plainolamerican wrote: > > The French have the > > health-care system that Americans desperately want: it combines > > private > > providers and patient choice with a large and generous public > > insurance > > system > > ---- > > hogwash > > this is what the socialists among us want > > > Reihan Salam doesn't have a fucking clue what Americans want. > > > On Aug 10, 8:59 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> *Democrats tried to turn around the health-care debate this weekend, with > >> Obama criticizing opponents** on his weekly address** and Pelosi labeling > >> them "un-American." But Reihan Salam says the protests will only grow.* > > >> Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have harsh words for the protesters who have > >> been turning up at town halls across the country. After highlighting a > >> handful of extreme tactics—in Maryland, protesters hanged a member of > >> Congress in effigy—Pelosi and Hoyer proceeded to accuse the protesters of > >> engaging in > >> “un-American”<http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/unamerican-attacks-cant-derail...>behavior, > >> perhaps forgetting that the far more extreme tarring and feathering of > >> British officials was a favorite pastime of America’s pro-independence > >> radicals. > > >> Whether the House Democratic leadership likes it or not, the so-called > >> "town > >> brawls" are a sign of things to come. The left has accused conservative > >> activists of manufacturing outrage over President Obama's health-reform > >> efforts. Conservatives in turn have argued that the AFL-CIO, SEIU, > >> Organizing for America and other left-leaning groups have been just as > >> active in rallying their supporters. What is clear is that both sides have > >> had a fairly easy time finding riled-up citizens who are more than happy to > >> wave incendiary signs and scream like banshees. Could this have something > >> to > >> do with the lackluster quality of prime-time television? *Mad Men* won't be > >> back on until August 16th, and bullying some chump congressperson might be > >> preferable to enduring yet another episode of *The Real Housewives of > >> Atlanta*. > > >> If Obamacare eventually passes in some form, I'll make you a guarantee: > >> these ferocious protests will keep getting bigger and louder. > > >> Actually, the people who've been raising a ruckus at town halls are not > >> there because they have nothing better to do: they're acting out because > >> they are intensely ideological, and they are eager to fight for their > >> beliefs. Liberals insist that the anti-Obamacare protesters represent an > >> extreme and intemperate minority, and they're absolutely right. But the > >> same > >> was true of those who protested for abolition and women's suffrage and > >> temperance and civil rights for African Americans and for gays and > >> lesbians. > >> I don't believe that Obamacare is a grave evil that should be bitterly > >> opposed, like Jim Crow. Rather, I think it's an ill-conceived mish-mash > >> that > >> will quickly fall apart, leaving the next president to pick up the pieces. > >> If I did think Obamacare was evil, though, I'd angrily attend a dozen town > >> halls, shaking my fists and playing the kazoo at every one. And if > >> Obamacare > >> eventually passes in some form, I'll make you a guarantee: these ferocious > >> protests will keep getting bigger and louder. > > >> To get a glimpse of America’s future, consider France. The French have the > >> health-care system that Americans desperately want: it combines private > >> providers and patient choice with a large and generous public insurance > >> system, one that keeps out-of-pocket costs extremely low for working > >> families. The French system is also dramatically cheaper than our own. But > >> whenever there's a move to tweak the system in some way—say, to gently > >> nudge > >> patients to get the approval of a general practitioner before seeing a > >> specialist—the French go absolutely mad with rage. Doctors go on strike, > >> massive street protests ensue, the riot police come out: it's a crazy > >> scene. > > >> And it makes perfect sense: as more life and death decisions are placed in > >> the hands of democratically elected legislators, politics become more than > >> an occasional nuisance. When your wages are stagnant or your health > >> insurance premiums are zooming skyward, you don't blame your boss or bad > >> luck; instead, you blame the knuckleheads running, or rather ruining, the > >> country. You come to feel as though you can't just wait until the next > >> election: You need to make your voice heard now—even if that means taking > >> to > >> the streets or throwing a punch. We can call the protesters “un-American.” > >> Yet America has gone through long periods of roiling unrest before and it > >> can happen again. > > >> *Reihan Salam is a fellow at the New America Foundation and the co-author > >> of *Grand New > >> Party<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0307277801/thedaibea-20/> > >> . --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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