if you stop being one I won't have to observe that you are one On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote:
> > Bruce, > > Now, now didn't you read K.I.T's initial post and his very polite > request that we all try to play nice? Yet here you, back with your > fecal matter obsession. > > On Aug 20, 5:30 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > Poor retarded Holly > > were you always a fool or is it senility grampa? > > > > PS if you clean the shit off your upper lip you won;t have to smell it > > > > and if you wash your hands after you empty the colostomy bag you won;t > get > > it on your face > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce, > > > > > Doesn't much matter sonny boy. Either way you're equally full of shit. > > > > > Wow, lad you really are pretty much a fucking moron. Reading > > > comprehension has to do with how well one understands what's read, > > > hence the word comprehension, whereas a difficiency in my eyesight > > > would have to do with how well I could SEE what I read. > > > > > On Aug 19, 5:37 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You have a reading comprehension pappy? > > > > Lost your specs? > > > > > > I said your understanding of history is pap > > > > > > Obamacare will be making soylent green of you if they find out your > eyes > > > > don't work > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Hollywood < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Bruce, > > > > > > > Human nature is "pap"? I do believe that human nature has been > around > > > > > a good deal longer than Newsweek. > > > > > > > On Aug 19, 12:37 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You are just regurgitating pap you read in some survey text or in > > > > > Newsweek > > > > > > There are large tomes of research proving you wrong, including by > > > > > socialists > > > > > > like Gabriel Kolko > > > > > > > > Gabriel KolkoFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > > > > > > > > *Gabriel Kolko* (born 1932) is a > > > > > > historian<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian> and > > > > > > author. > > > > > > > > Kolko received his Ph.D. from Harvard < > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard> in > > > > > > 1962. Following graduation he taught at the University of > > > > > > Pennsylvania< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Pennsylvania > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > at SUNY-Buffalo <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUNY-Buffalo>. He > > > joined > > > > > the York > > > > > > University <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_University> > History > > > > > Department > > > > > > in 1970 and is now an emeritus professor of history there. > > > > > > > > Kolko's research interests include American political history, > the > > > > > Progressive > > > > > > Era <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era>, and foreign > > > policy > > > > > in > > > > > > the twentieth century. > > > > > > > > Kolko was considered a leading historian of the early New > > > > > > Left<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left>, > > > > > > joining William Appleman > > > > > > Williams<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Appleman_Williams> > > > > > > and James Weinstein < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Weinstein> > > > in > > > > > > advancing the corporate > > > > > > liberalism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_liberalism> > idea > > > > > > whereby the old Progressive historiography of the "interests" > versus > > > the > > > > > > "people" was reinterpreted as a collaboration of interests aiming > > > towards > > > > > > stabilizing competition [Novick, 439]. According to Grob and > Billias, > > > > > "Kolko > > > > > > believed that large-scale units turned to government regulation > > > precisely > > > > > > because of their inefficiency" and that the "Progressive movement > - > > > far > > > > > from > > > > > > being antibusiness - was actually a movement that defined the > general > > > > > > welfare in terms of the well-being of business" [Grob and > Billias, > > > 38]. > > > > > > Kolko, in particular, broke new ground with his critical history > of > > > > > > theProgressive > > > > > > Era <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era>. He > discovered > > > that > > > > > free > > > > > > enterprise and competition were vibrant and expanding during the > > > first > > > > > two > > > > > > decades of the twentieth century; meanwhile, corporations reacted > to > > > the > > > > > > free market by turning to government to protect their inherent > > > > > inefficiency > > > > > > from the discipline of market conditions. This behavior is known > as > > > > > > corporatism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism>, but > Kolko > > > dubbed > > > > > it > > > > > > "political capitalism." Kolko's thesis "that businessmen favored > > > > > government > > > > > > regulation because they feared competition and desired to forge a > > > > > > government-business coalition" is one that is echoed by many > > > observers > > > > > today > > > > > > [Grob and Billias, 39]. Former Harvard professor Paul H. > > > > > > Weaver< > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_H._Weaver&action=edit&;.. > > > .> > > > > > > uncovered > > > > > > the same inefficient and bureaucratic behavior from corporations > > > during > > > > > his > > > > > > stint atFord Motor > > > > > > Corporation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Corporation> > > > (see > > > > > > Weaver's *The Suicidal Corporation* [1988]). > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Hollywood < > > > [email protected] > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bruce, > > > > > > > > > Nonsense, you are totally ignoring facts of human nature. Under > > > > > > > regulation is as bad as over regulation. A look at any history > book > > > > > > > will prove that. Unregulated or under regulated business is > simply > > > > > > > organized looting. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 19, 11:59 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > That's actually precisely the opposite of the truth > > > > > > > > Only when a field of production,from education to > agriculture,is > > > > > taxed, > > > > > > > > subsidized,licensed etc does it become shoddy and a > > > non-competitive > > > > > > > cartel > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM, "Lone Wolf" < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Every industry from health-care, education, > telecommunications, > > > > > energy > > > > > > > > > and transport are in a state of total dysfunction once they > > > were > > > > > > > > > transformed from utilities to serve social need, to > instruments > > > for > > > > > > > > > extracting profit for private greed. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:45 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Your question seems to betray a complete inability to > think > > > > > > > > > > Private markets produce everything better than > government, > > > from > > > > > shoes > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > aspirin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaccines are heavily regulated and the government decides > > > which > > > > > ones > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > be made and who shall get them,and it once again has > fucked > > > it up > > > > > by > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > > > metrics > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaccine Production Is Horribly Outdated. Here Are 3 Ways > to > > > Fix > > > > > It. > > > > > > > > > > > > The traditional method of growing vaccines in chicken > eggs > > > may be > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > slow > > > > > > > > > > and inefficient to protect the U.S. > > > > > > > > > > by Allison Bond > > > > > > > > > > > > published online July 27, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Widespread vaccination—which is why U.S. > health > > > > > officials > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > debating a nationwide swine flu vaccination > > > > > > > > > > program< > > > > > > > > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/07/10/how-the-federal-.. > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > would mandate the creation of 600 million immunizations, > more > > > > > than > > > > > > > five > > > > > > > > > > times the 115 million vaccines administered each > > > > > > > > > > year< > > > > >http://http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31571476/ns/health-swine_flu/ > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > battle the seasonal flu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Because of the flu virus’s notorious ability to mutate, a > > > > > large-scale > > > > > > > > > > immunization program would require manufacturers to > quickly > > > > > produce > > > > > > > vast > > > > > > > > > > quantities of vaccine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately for all of us, it’s unlikely that current > > > vaccine > > > > > > > > > production > > > > > > > > > > methods< > > > > > > > > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/04/28/as-swine-flu-spr.. > > > > > > > > > .>—which > > > > > > > > > > have been in use for more than half a century—could > produce > > > the > > > > > > > quantity > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > vaccine that would be necessary in an emergency. Today’s > > > vaccine > > > > > > > > > production > > > > > > > > > > is so slow, costly, and inefficient that the U.S. > Department > > > of > > > > > > > Health > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Human Services > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
