The cost of oil extraction is very cheap in the Middle East. The USA
also stopped buidling refineries.//The American consumer generally
doesn't really care about where and how products come about until they
prove toxic or impact the global enviornment.

On Oct 1, 9:35 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >If we have so much of it why are we buying so much of it from the >ME and 
> >helping to finance our enemies?
>
> Because the guys that you and your ilk keep voting in all over the
> country block, at every turn, our opportunities to use our own
> resources. One of the first things that President Clueless Obama did
> was to reverse the Presidential order allowing off shore drilling in
> the US. Jackass Clinton was the fool who blocked all drilling in the
> north of Alaska, a barren fuckin WASTELAND.
>
> > CLEAN coal plants are NOT being prevented by the Democrats >but by the coal 
> > industry that does not WANT to spend the money.
>
> LOL! You should read up on this a bit. Democrats have regulated into
> impossibility the building of clean burning coal plants, just like
> they did to oil refineries.
>
> I didn't say Dems have stopped anything about alternative energy. I
> asked what alternative energy was a plausible replacement for
> oil......or coal.....or nuclear? If you've got something that can
> replace oil products in our cars without driving us broke, I'll be
> right on the line with you flipping the bird to big oil. And why can't
> we build nuke plants? They don't even pollute. France uses them. I get
> the feeling that the "everything we do now is wrong" crowd just hates
> humans, including themselves.
>
> On Oct 1, 6:20 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Zeb,
>
> > If we have so much of it why are we buying so much of it from the ME
> > and helping to finance our enemies?
> >  CLEAN coal plants are NOT being prevented by the Democrats but by the
> > coal industry that does not WANT to spend the money.
> > Please tell me exactly what Democrats have done to stop the
> > developement of alternative energy.
>
> > On Oct 1, 1:53 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >conservation
>
> > > Why should we conserve something we have plenty of , if we want
> > > it....energy? We have almost limitless supplies of oil, both
> > > discovered and yet to be discovered. We're just prevented from using
> > > it because of Democrats. We could build new clean coal fired electric
> > > plants, but they are prevented because of Democrats. We could have
> > > nearly limitless power from nuclear plants, just like France does, but
> > > we are prevented because of Democrats.
>
> > > >AND renewable alternatives to oil.
>
> > > Such as? Name anything that we know of that will come close to
> > > replacing oil and that Democrats won't block.
>
> > > On Sep 30, 4:58 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > dick,
>
> > > > Also wouldn't had we learned the lesson of the OPEC oil embargo in the
> > > > early 70's and gotten serious about both conservation AND renewable
> > > > alternatives to oil.
>
> > > > WE, both Democratic AND Republication with a large amount of large to
> > > > the public, have been behaving foolishly concerning our energy
> > > > policies for at least 40 fucking years. Seems we NEVER learn to think
> > > > long-term in this country.
>
> > > > On Sep 30, 1:38 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Which we wouldn't be if the Congress would permit drilling - Zero is 
> > > > > OK
> > > > > to let Brazil drill right off our coast but our own companies can't.  
> > > > > And the Dems won't allow drilling.   Meanwhile none of the alternate
> > > > > energy sources they approve of can provide the energy needs of the
> > > > > country but that doesn't matter.
>
> > > > > Hollywood wrote:
> > > > > > dick,
>
> > > > > > Who knows? But if the entire Middle East blows up I guess we'll 
> > > > > > regret
> > > > > > our insistence on remaining, to a large degree, dependent on their 
> > > > > > oil
> > > > > > won't we?
>
> > > > > > On Sep 30, 1:09 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/837f30a0-ad30-11de-9caf-00144feabdc0.html?n...-
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