*The answer is no. * On 9/21/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Question is did those who have been discharged and were outed by others > make a pass at those others repeatedly and were outed to get some peace from > the harassment or why were they outed. I would doubt that you can really > tell us the reasons for the outing but it sounds very much as if there were > a bunch of ActUp people there or their equivalent. They also ruined a lot > of lives and careers and reputations and crowed about doing so. Pot, > kettle, fire? > > > On 09/21/2010 03:20 PM, Tommy News wrote: > > *False.* > ** > *Many who have been discharged have been outed by others.* > > > On 9/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tommy Boy, >> >> The law is quite literal...(extremely rare these days).. Don't Ask, >> (the military doesn't) Don't Tell... that is left entirely up to the >> individual... it must come FROM his or her mouth...( Little drum >> roll ).... Not in it, to be valid as a career killer. >> >> >> On Sep 21, 10:31 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> > *No, Keith. Wrong. * >> > *There have been countless backstabbing "efforts" and vendettas to "out" >> > closeted and silent members of the military, including baiting, >> spreading >> > rumors, searching possessions and correspondence, entrapment, etc.* >> > *It is those who chose to "enforce" the policy, who caused it to fail.* >> > ** >> > *Billions have been wasted on these witch hunts and discharges.* >> > *DADT is a failure. Always has been. Since 1993. * >> > ** >> > *Repeal it NOW, no further "delay". * >> > >> > On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > No Tom, the policy has worked fine. It has been those who chose to >> > > violate the policy who have had their "lives and carreers ruined". >> > >> > > Again, the military is no place for a "Gay Parade".......If you think >> that >> > > rescinding the DADT policy is going to somehow allow you and your >> buddies to >> > > get up and announce, "We're Here And We're Queer"; you are sadly >> mistaken. >> > >> > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> *No, Keith, the DADT policy is a complete falure and it has never >> worked. >> > >> * >> > >> ** >> > >> *Thousands of lives and careers have been ruined.* >> > >> ** >> > >> *No further biased "study" or delay should be tolerated. >> > >> * >> > >> > >> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>> No Tom, the DADT was enacted, by the Clinton Administration in >> 1993. The >> > >>> policy has worked, successfully for seventeen years. >> > >> > >>> Is it time to rescind the policy? I tend to agree that it is, but >> not >> > >>> until such time as the military has a chance to weigh in, and >> determine the >> > >>> effects of such a change in policy, and "how/what" type of policy to >> > >>> implement as a replacement. >> > >> > >>> Sexual practices has no place in our military. There have been Gays >> in >> > >>> our military who have fought and defended our Nation since 1776. >> No policy >> > >>> is going to change that. We especially don't want a military that >> is >> > >>> weakened by a bunch of folks with an agenda!! >> > >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tommy News <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> > >>>> *No, Keith.* >> > >>>> ** >> > >>>> *The Pentagon has had since 1993 to review this failed policy which >> has >> > >>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers.* >> > >>>> ** >> > >>>> *No further delay is acceptable.* >> > >>>> *Delay means do nothing. >> > >>>> * >> > >> > >>>> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded by some >> > >>>>> secondary issue. >> > >> > >>>>> First, the Pentagon should have every right to review and >> determine how >> > >>>>> repeal of DADT will effect the military. Second, and more >> importantly, the >> > >>>>> goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of amending >> the proposed >> > >>>>> Defense Appropriations bill now before the Congress. I don't >> trust the >> > >>>>> likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of other Marxists >> > >>>>> controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations. You shouldn't >> either. >> > >> > >>>>> From CNN: >> > >> > >>>>> >> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html >> > >> > >>>>> But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan Collins >> > >>>>> (Confused, Maine) said she would side with the rest of the GOP >> because the >> > >>>>> Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut Republicans >> out of the >> > >>>>> debate." >> > >> > >>>>> Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >> Staff, >> > >>>>> Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair." But she said >> Senate >> > >>>>> Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give Republicans and >> Democrats >> > >>>>> "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the defense bill. >> > >> > >>>>> "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again call on the >> majority >> > >>>>> leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an agreement >> so that the >> > >>>>> Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins said. >> > >> > >>>>> In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she would support a >> > >>>>> Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be allowed a full >> debate on >> > >>>>> the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate would vote on >> repeal >> > >>>>> before the military has completed its review. >> > >> > >>>>> "We should all have the opportunity to review that report which is >> to >> > >>>>> be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this policy and the >> > >>>>> implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement said. >> > >> > >>>>> The defense authorization act, which is a broad defense policy >> bill, >> > >>>>> would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after the Pentagon >> completes >> > >>>>> a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The review is due >> in >> > >>>>> December and would serve as the basis for necessary certification >> by the >> > >>>>> president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >> Staff that >> > >>>>> the military could handle repealing the policy. >> > >> > >>>>> -- >> > >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > >>>>> For options & help seehttp:// >> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> > >> > >>>>> * Visit our other community >> > >>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> > >>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > >>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> > >>>> Have a great day, >> > >>>> Tommy >> > >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > >>>> For options & help seehttp:// >> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> > >> > >>>> * Visit our other community >> > >>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> > >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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