*Wrong again. *
*Only two Democrats (from Arkansas) voted against DADT repeal.
Blaming Fifty nine Democrats for only two votes is false twisted
prezel logic. *
**
*The Fourty Obstructionist Republicans, led by John McCain, who
all voted against cloture are to blame for the failure of the
bill, and they also put the troops in harms way by voting against
funding. *
*The vote was 56-43.*
* *
On 9/27/10, *dick thompson* <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You blamed them for the loss on DADT but there were 37
Republican votes against. Not enough to obstruct. Why would
this be any different. You keep playing this game and you
keep losing. Open your eyes and see what is going on. It
was the Dem votes in DADT that doomed it and it would be the
Dem votes on this that would doom it.
What you fail to see is that when you tack on legislation
that has nothing to do with the main thrust of a bill, as
exemplified by the DADT provision on the Pentagon budget bill
and the Teddy Kennedy monument on the same bill, then people
will vote against it because of these added provisions.
Bring on the provisions as their own bill and see what the
vote will be. DADT would probably have passed if Reid had
not played games with his own bill - in fact he voted against
it. Now he is trying to do it again. He will say it is a
tax cut bill but wait and see what other krep provisions he
adds on you will see why it would not pass as introduced.
The game the Dems are trying to play is to get at least 1
Republican to vote for the legislation. Then they will
portray the bill as having bi-partisan support as if there
were multitudes of republicans who supported the krep. I
would hope that the public is smart enough to see through
these tricks that the Dems are trying to play out. Based on
the current polls they are.
On 09/27/2010 03:49 PM, Tommy News wrote:
*NO!*
*The absurd 60 vote filibuster rule gives the Republicans
the ability to obstruct legislation, as they do over and
over again. *
**
*The Republicans, as usual, are to blame.
*
On 9/27/10, *dick thompson* <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I see we are hearing the usual krep from Tommy.
Once again the Dems have an absolute majority in the
house. If they want to bring up the tax cuts and voe on
them there is nothing stopping them from doing this.
Instead because they are not sure if this is a winning
bit of legislation or not they choose to try to demonize
the Republicans for supposedly stopping them. Total
krep but what else does one expect of this bunch of
bozos in the administration and Dem leadership in the
House and Senate. Either bring it up or not; don't
look to blame others for your own deficiencies and
shortcomings.
On 09/27/2010 03:16 PM, Tommy News wrote:
White House, Dems see tax cut vote after election
WASHINGTON – The White House and Democratic leaders in
Congress said Sunday they would find a way to extend
middle-class tax cuts
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--#>
after the November elections, unable to secure GOP
backing before lawmakers break to campaign.
"One way or the other, we're going to get it done. And
I believe the pressure is going to build among the
American people" said David Axelrod, President Barack
Obama's
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--#>
top political aide.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., had suggested
that a vote could be held this coming week before
lawmakers leave town for the elections. But her deputy,
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, said Sunday
that holding a vote wouldn't matter because the
legislation is still languishing in the Senate under
GOP objections.
Both parties are using the delay in a vote on the fate
of these George W. Bush-era cuts at a time of record
deficits as political ammunition this election season
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--#>.
Democratic leaders have said they want to freeze tax
rates for individuals making up to $200,000 and for
families earning up to $250,000. Republicans, as well
as some more conservative Democrats, want to extend all
of Bush's income tax cuts
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--#>
permanently, even for the wealthiest of Americans.
Democrats think the climate for compromise will improve
after the election. They will still need at least one
Republican vote in the Senate to pass a bill.
"We are for making sure that the middle-class Americans
do not get a tax increase. And we're going to make sure
that happens," Hoyer said.
Republicans say they want a chance to debate extending
the tax cuts beyond the middle class or else they will
block the Democratic proposal.
"If she's not willing to have a fair and open debate,
she should not count on our votes," House GOP Leader
John Boehner
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--#>
said of Pelosi.
Axelrod said that kind of strong-arm tactic will hurt
Republicans in this fall's election.
"They're going to have to explain to their constituents
why they're holding up tax cuts for the middle class,"
Axelrod said. "And I think it's an untenable position
to say, "We're going to allow your taxes to go up on
January 1st unless the president agrees to give tax
cuts to millionaires and billionaires."
The Senate's second-ranking Democrat said he hoped the
atmosphere will have changed after the election and the
impassed ended. "Occasionally one Republican will break
ranks and help us," said Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill.
Still, Republicans have seized on the impasse in
Congress by alleging that Democrats are contributing to
consumer uncertainty.
"The Democrats have failed to lead this," said Rep.
Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif. "They are going to want to
leave the House without dealing with it. That
uncertainty itself is keeping capital on the sidelines
and keeping jobs from being created in America."
Boehner said that if the House leaves without blocking
the tax increases
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--#>,
"it will be the most irresponsible thing that I've seen
since I have been in Washington, D.C."
Axelrod spoke on ABC's "This Week." Hoyer, Boehner and
McCarthy appeared "Fox News Sunday." Durbin was on
CNN's "State of the Union."
More:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts;_ylt=AqNsZz4g198cegyL67kfPqJp24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJoODFlNjM0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTI2L3VzX3RheF9jdXRzBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9wYWdpbmF0ZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA3doaXRlaG91c2VkZQ--
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